45th President Of These United States Home Raided by FBI

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Interfering with or trying to subvert the peaceful transfer of power?
This is your brain on, morning joe.
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8/11/2022 1:33pm
Life must suck for many posters who are going through life with so much hate and contempt.

Kinda sad actually.
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8/11/2022 1:46pm
Sound like the DOJ tried to do things the 'nice' way, but Trump didn't want to cooperate. With them requesting footage of the room, it almost makes it sound like Trump may have been 'showing off' the the material in there.

DOJ subpoenaed Trump months before Mar-a-Lago search: report

BY HARPER NEIDIG - 08/11/22 2:03 PM ET

The Justice Department subpoenaed former President Trump months before federal law enforcement executed a search warrant of his Mar-a-Lago estate this week, The New York Times reported Thursday.

According to the Times, investigators had been concerned about classified national security information that might have remained at Trump’s Florida property, even in the months after the National Archives recovered 15 boxes of White House materials from there in January.

The subpoena reportedly preceded a June meeting at Mar-a-Lago between attorneys representing Trump and Justice Department investigators, who later asked that a basement room containing White House records be better secured.

The Times noted that the subpoena was first reported by the conservative journalist John Solomon, who wrote this week that Trump’s lawyers had been making efforts to comply.

Solomon has previously worked as an executive vice president and opinion columnist for The Hill.

A few weeks after the June meeting between Trump’s lawyers and Justice Department officials, investigators issued another subpoena, this time for security footage near the room where the White House materials were stored.

The reveal of the subpoenas adds new wrinkles to the unprecedented search of the former president’s home this week, suggesting that investigators had worried for months about the possibility of classified national security material left unsecured on the property.

Shortly after the Times story was published, the Justice Department announced Attorney General Merrick Garland would be making a public statement Thursday afternoon. The department offered no further details on the topic he would address.
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I spent some time as Base Security NCOIC while on active duty. I had the combo to the top secret vault. I never read anything in that safe. It all had cover sheets listing it's classification...TS, Secret, Confidential. It was all "need to know". If I had had a need to know...the cover sheet would have listed my position and given instructions...read/comply, store, destroy...ect.

I say all this because even as a low ranked nobody...I knew every rule/regulation about the handling of classified information. The President has dozens of people that advise him on EVERYTHING he reads or transmits. There is NO POSSIBLE way he wasn't told by multiple layers of people that removing classified stuff from the security chain was wrong and bad.

I have no idea what he took to Mara Lago. Doesn't fucking matter. National security doesn't care who holds the office or for how long. No matter who holds the office...the NATION comes first...not the POTUS. By removing classified info from the secure custody chain...the nation's security COULD be compromised. That gives investigative authority the duty to search and prosecute possible unauthorized disclosure or illegal use of the info. The SAME as would have happened to me if I had done what Trump has done.

I would feel the same no matter who was president.
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8/11/2022 1:54pm
plowboy wrote:
I spent some time as Base Security NCOIC while on active duty. I had the combo to the top secret vault. I never read anything in...
I spent some time as Base Security NCOIC while on active duty. I had the combo to the top secret vault. I never read anything in that safe. It all had cover sheets listing it's classification...TS, Secret, Confidential. It was all "need to know". If I had had a need to know...the cover sheet would have listed my position and given instructions...read/comply, store, destroy...ect.

I say all this because even as a low ranked nobody...I knew every rule/regulation about the handling of classified information. The President has dozens of people that advise him on EVERYTHING he reads or transmits. There is NO POSSIBLE way he wasn't told by multiple layers of people that removing classified stuff from the security chain was wrong and bad.

I have no idea what he took to Mara Lago. Doesn't fucking matter. National security doesn't care who holds the office or for how long. No matter who holds the office...the NATION comes first...not the POTUS. By removing classified info from the secure custody chain...the nation's security COULD be compromised. That gives investigative authority the duty to search and prosecute possible unauthorized disclosure or illegal use of the info. The SAME as would have happened to me if I had done what Trump has done.

I would feel the same no matter who was president.
Nice to read something unbias and factual about this situation.
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They have NOTHING and they never will. Career criminals like that drunken hag Pelosi go after a law abiding former President you know we have dropped...
They have NOTHING and they never will. Career criminals like that drunken hag Pelosi go after a law abiding former President you know we have dropped down to 3rd world tactics. It’s so disgusting even liberal media is calling them out for the attack on a Presidents personal home. Disgusting
Law abiding citizens don’t need to take the 5th, you’ve losing it
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Shawn142 wrote:
Nice to read something unbias and factual about this situation.
I won't claim "unbiased". I've made no secret about my distaste for Trump. That's my personal opinion. My previous statement was based solely on my duty position dealing with classified info. Which is the same for everyone that touches it. I took my oath to protect information from being disclosed or compromised very seriously. I believe that is described as "integrity". I'm pretty proud of that. I do not believe "integrity" was used in removing info from the custody chain.
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8/11/2022 2:19pm
Actually Trump had cooperated fully regarding these docs, the raid was completely unnecessary. In fact, the FBI got dick. Well, they got another bla k eye.
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Actually Trump had cooperated fully regarding these docs, the raid was completely unnecessary. In fact, the FBI got dick. Well, they got another bla k eye.
Lol...so the National Archive folks lied and Trump had already returned every document they were looking for? And while you were there during the "raid"...you actually heard the FBI say, "Fuck... nothing. What a waste of time and money"?
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They have NOTHING and they never will. Career criminals like that drunken hag Pelosi go after a law abiding former President you know we have dropped...
They have NOTHING and they never will. Career criminals like that drunken hag Pelosi go after a law abiding former President you know we have dropped down to 3rd world tactics. It’s so disgusting even liberal media is calling them out for the attack on a Presidents personal home. Disgusting
jjavaman wrote:
Law abiding citizens don’t need to take the 5th, you’ve losing it
Why is a Canadien who is living in a socialist shithole so concerned with Americas President?

You should be more concerned with that piece of work on your side of the border
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bichwolf wrote:
Actually Trump had cooperated fully regarding these docs, the raid was completely unnecessary. In fact, the FBI got dick. Well, they got another bla k eye.
plowboy wrote:
Lol...so the National Archive folks lied and Trump had already returned every document they were looking for? And while you were there during the "raid"...you actually...
Lol...so the National Archive folks lied and Trump had already returned every document they were looking for? And while you were there during the "raid"...you actually heard the FBI say, "Fuck... nothing. What a waste of time and money"?
“What a waste of time and money”

Yep….you finally got it 👍
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8/11/2022 2:41pm
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“What a waste of time and money”

Yep….you finally got it 👍
I believe you may not have read my entire post...or be editing to fit your agenda. You're better than that bro.
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bichwolf wrote:
Actually Trump had cooperated fully regarding these docs, the raid was completely unnecessary. In fact, the FBI got dick. Well, they got another bla k eye.
plowboy wrote:
Lol...so the National Archive folks lied and Trump had already returned every document they were looking for? And while you were there during the "raid"...you actually...
Lol...so the National Archive folks lied and Trump had already returned every document they were looking for? And while you were there during the "raid"...you actually heard the FBI say, "Fuck... nothing. What a waste of time and money"?
The archive peeps accompanied by 3 FBI agents went to Mar Largo recently. Not required to, Trump met them there. All was good.
Are you upset about the 30 million pages of classified docs Obama took to Chicago? Was supposed to digitize and give back. Not one fukin page is back bro. Bro, not one page. Bet they raid Obama next...Tongue
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8/11/2022 2:48pm
You lefties are pathetic. So this is it guys, this is the one that's finally going to bring him down? You're all quiver with anticipation knowing that this time, this is what you've been waiting for all along? I'd say you better get ready for another let down. It's begging to come out that the case is already falling apart, by a party that is specializing in failure.

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Is the Jan 6th thing done then? (Serious question)
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The archive peeps accompanied by 3 FBI agents went to Mar Largo recently. Not required to, Trump met them there. All was good. Are you upset...
The archive peeps accompanied by 3 FBI agents went to Mar Largo recently. Not required to, Trump met them there. All was good.
Are you upset about the 30 million pages of classified docs Obama took to Chicago? Was supposed to digitize and give back. Not one fukin page is back bro. Bro, not one page. Bet they raid Obama next...Tongue
I'm gonna guess you haven't read my posts or are just completely enomored by Trump. If Obama broke the law (and I love me some Barack)...throw his ass in prison for life. IDGAF...the law applies from the TOP to the bottom. You either care about the country or your self interests. Fuck Democrats...fuck Republicans. Without the NATION...none of that bullshit matters...does it?
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KennyT wrote:
Why is a Canadien who is living in a socialist shithole so concerned with Americas President? You should be more concerned with that piece of work...
Why is a Canadien who is living in a socialist shithole so concerned with Americas President?

You should be more concerned with that piece of work on your side of the border
As a Canadian 🇨🇦. I 100% agree, with your comment. This kind of crap comes from Toronto, Quebec, Vancouver, area of Canada. . The big issue is all Canadian media is 100% focused on Trump for last 7 years. Everyday guaranteed five minutes all Canadian media (CBC, Global, CTV, City news) is slandering Republicans, Trump for five minutes. The Canadian media is as corrupt as they come. Programming the people to hate conservatives, Republican Trump values.Trudeau gives the media $700 Million six months prior to election time. Total disgrace to Canada.Yet Eastern Canada keeps electing this retard Trudeau, and Freeland. Media is the problem ( particularly owners of media). The average person just doesn’t have the brain power to separate wheat/chaff. Media prays on those people.

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8/11/2022 3:13pm
As suspected, Garland personally approved the raid and will also be unsealing the search warrant.
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KennyT wrote:
Why is a Canadien who is living in a socialist shithole so concerned with Americas President? You should be more concerned with that piece of work...
Why is a Canadien who is living in a socialist shithole so concerned with Americas President?

You should be more concerned with that piece of work on your side of the border
M1000 wrote:
As a Canadian 🇨🇦. I 100% agree, with your comment. This kind of crap comes from Toronto, Quebec, Vancouver, area of Canada. . The big issue...
As a Canadian 🇨🇦. I 100% agree, with your comment. This kind of crap comes from Toronto, Quebec, Vancouver, area of Canada. . The big issue is all Canadian media is 100% focused on Trump for last 7 years. Everyday guaranteed five minutes all Canadian media (CBC, Global, CTV, City news) is slandering Republicans, Trump for five minutes. The Canadian media is as corrupt as they come. Programming the people to hate conservatives, Republican Trump values.Trudeau gives the media $700 Million six months prior to election time. Total disgrace to Canada.Yet Eastern Canada keeps electing this retard Trudeau, and Freeland. Media is the problem ( particularly owners of media). The average person just doesn’t have the brain power to separate wheat/chaff. Media prays on those people.

Hey, let’s not include the Atlantic in “East”😎
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Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do so. That information is only requested to stay in the archive and each president is able to keep top secret files.

AGAIN, more to it than this shenanigan parade. Trump went public it would appear just so people understand the lengths things are going. If it was JUST about the documents then Hillary and Obama would have had the same issue.

Too many colored lenses going on
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8/11/2022 3:31pm
Also the timing is a bit suspect. Right as things are heating up for November. I am willing to bet these crazy things continue all the way up to the 24 election
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8/11/2022 3:31pm
bichwolf wrote:
Actually Trump had cooperated fully regarding these docs, the raid was completely unnecessary. In fact, the FBI got dick. Well, they got another bla k eye.
Actually he didn't cooperate fully, or there wouldn't have been a several months difference between the subpoena and the execution of the search warrant.

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8/11/2022 3:40pm
Any merit to the Crossfire Hurricane Scandel connection?
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Zycki11 wrote:
Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do...
Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do so. That information is only requested to stay in the archive and each president is able to keep top secret files.

AGAIN, more to it than this shenanigan parade. Trump went public it would appear just so people understand the lengths things are going. If it was JUST about the documents then Hillary and Obama would have had the same issue.

Too many colored lenses going on
I can tell you this for true...no matter what the internet has told you. Even IF an ex-prez is allowed to retain classified documents. He can't just say, "Hey, I got this stuff...it's cool". There must be an approved safe. There must be a designated vetted person that has access to the safe. A record must be maintained of every time the safe is opened/closed and by who and what document was reviewed or removed and by whom. When and if the document was returned... accompanied by a signature of everyone that viewed the document.

I ain't making this shit up. These are the protocols. Any deviation is considered disclosure. That opens up a whole new bucket of worms. Which starts with the FBI and a warrant.
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bichwolf wrote:
Actually Trump had cooperated fully regarding these docs, the raid was completely unnecessary. In fact, the FBI got dick. Well, they got another bla k eye.
APLMAN99 wrote:
Actually he didn't cooperate fully, or there wouldn't have been a several months difference between the subpoena and the execution of the search warrant.

Still extreme from all parties involved, unprecedented
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Zycki11 wrote:
Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do...
Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do so. That information is only requested to stay in the archive and each president is able to keep top secret files.

AGAIN, more to it than this shenanigan parade. Trump went public it would appear just so people understand the lengths things are going. If it was JUST about the documents then Hillary and Obama would have had the same issue.

Too many colored lenses going on
plowboy wrote:
I can tell you this for true...no matter what the internet has told you. Even IF an ex-prez is allowed to retain classified documents. He can't...
I can tell you this for true...no matter what the internet has told you. Even IF an ex-prez is allowed to retain classified documents. He can't just say, "Hey, I got this stuff...it's cool". There must be an approved safe. There must be a designated vetted person that has access to the safe. A record must be maintained of every time the safe is opened/closed and by who and what document was reviewed or removed and by whom. When and if the document was returned... accompanied by a signature of everyone that viewed the document.

I ain't making this shit up. These are the protocols. Any deviation is considered disclosure. That opens up a whole new bucket of worms. Which starts with the FBI and a warrant.
Again, not knocking protocols. BUT, we have plenty of more egregious examples in recent history and things were not handled in the same manner.
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8/11/2022 3:57pm
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Again, not knocking protocols. BUT, we have plenty of more egregious examples in recent history and things were not handled in the same manner.
Plenty of bad actors on both sides BUT Trump is that guy with a box of matches and 20 gallons of gas in a tender box forest. Can't predict every fire but he's red handed here.
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Zycki11 wrote:
Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do...
Lmao at some of you. If the national archive was looking for documents they didn’t need to take 6 hours going through the house to do so. That information is only requested to stay in the archive and each president is able to keep top secret files.

AGAIN, more to it than this shenanigan parade. Trump went public it would appear just so people understand the lengths things are going. If it was JUST about the documents then Hillary and Obama would have had the same issue.

Too many colored lenses going on
plowboy wrote:
I can tell you this for true...no matter what the internet has told you. Even IF an ex-prez is allowed to retain classified documents. He can't...
I can tell you this for true...no matter what the internet has told you. Even IF an ex-prez is allowed to retain classified documents. He can't just say, "Hey, I got this stuff...it's cool". There must be an approved safe. There must be a designated vetted person that has access to the safe. A record must be maintained of every time the safe is opened/closed and by who and what document was reviewed or removed and by whom. When and if the document was returned... accompanied by a signature of everyone that viewed the document.

I ain't making this shit up. These are the protocols. Any deviation is considered disclosure. That opens up a whole new bucket of worms. Which starts with the FBI and a warrant.
Zycki11 wrote:
Again, not knocking protocols. BUT, we have plenty of more egregious examples in recent history and things were not handled in the same manner.
I will also say that any oversight agency that gives passes based on political affiliation should also be prosecuted. I'm an equal opportunity traitor hater.
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crowe660 wrote:
Is the Jan 6th thing done then? (Serious question)
Oh yeah, that didn’t work out how they wanted so this was on their list. All this does is make his support stronger than ever
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