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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can...
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can say is it's Biden's fault. Talk Amongst yourselves. Discuss.
I don't have any mules jackass.... I haven't seen the film nor will I. I just responded to knowing right from wrong at 18. Gfy, you...
I don't have any mules jackass.... I haven't seen the film nor will I.

I just responded to knowing right from wrong at 18.

Gfy, you don't know half as much as you think.
I wouldn't let him bother you, he stirs shit up and doesn't back his "facts" with information. Just your typical troll
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That part was just added in 1954 because of the perceived threat of 'communist atheism'. It would be absolutely unconstitutional if there were any governmental binding...
That part was just added in 1954 because of the perceived threat of 'communist atheism'.

It would be absolutely unconstitutional if there were any governmental binding authority with the pledge, obviously.

The idea that this was a 'bad ass country' is just romanticized propaganda bullshit. We are just a nation, nothing more. We have had some terrible issues, and some great successes, but we tend to overblow the successes and sweep the terrible issues under the rug when we can.

As a Christian, I reject the notion that the United States of America is a 'Christian nation'. It isn't, but it's people are free to practice Christianity, or any other religion they see fit.
Imo. You appear pretty judgemental to be a Christian. . .

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I wouldn't let him bother you, he stirs shit up and doesn't back his "facts" with information. Just your typical troll
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I wouldn't let him bother you, he stirs shit up and doesn't back his "facts" with information. Just your typical troll
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Not bothered these days mate! All good here!


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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can...
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can say is it's Biden's fault. Talk Amongst yourselves. Discuss.
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with a team of high played Dem lawyers, who have since disappeared.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-matter-june-6-2-days-after-2000-mul…

And Sussman was never going to be found guilty in DC, but all of the information that was bought into evidence is now officially in the public domain as fact.

So all the things he did, are not in dispute, they are now fact.


It makes me laugh that people can be cheering for their country circling the drain.
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That part was just added in 1954 because of the perceived threat of 'communist atheism'. It would be absolutely unconstitutional if there were any governmental binding...
That part was just added in 1954 because of the perceived threat of 'communist atheism'.

It would be absolutely unconstitutional if there were any governmental binding authority with the pledge, obviously.

The idea that this was a 'bad ass country' is just romanticized propaganda bullshit. We are just a nation, nothing more. We have had some terrible issues, and some great successes, but we tend to overblow the successes and sweep the terrible issues under the rug when we can.

As a Christian, I reject the notion that the United States of America is a 'Christian nation'. It isn't, but it's people are free to practice Christianity, or any other religion they see fit.
Imo. You appear pretty judgemental to be a Christian. . .

Really? To be honest, I think that us Christians are probably some of the most judgmental people on earth........
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The founding fathers went put of their way to make their references to God and the Creator as inclusive as possible beyond what is defined as the Christian God. As Aplman pointed out, the reference to God was added to the pledge during a period of communist hysteria (sounds familiar). In God We Trust wasn't added to the currency until 1864.

The first 2 paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence lay out a philosophy that the US is not the collection of completely free and independent individuals that some would like to believe. It lays out a philosophy that the people should be able to choose how they are governed so they can work together as effectively as possible.

In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.


https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/declaration-transcript
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6/7/2022 4:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2022 5:37pm
BMSOBx2 wrote:
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can...
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can say is it's Biden's fault. Talk Amongst yourselves. Discuss.
philG wrote:
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with...
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with a team of high played Dem lawyers, who have since disappeared.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-matter-june-6-2-days-after-2000-mul…

And Sussman was never going to be found guilty in DC, but all of the information that was bought into evidence is now officially in the public domain as fact.

So all the things he did, are not in dispute, they are now fact.


It makes me laugh that people can be cheering for their country circling the drain.
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you did read it you would know that "prosecutors were unable to prove the most serious charges dropping three felony counts that she filled out one voter's ballot and forged signatures on four other ballots". So this is your proof of "widespread voter fraud"? More like a pathetic attempt to try and justify the unfounded claims of 2,000 donkeys. By the way information being in the public domain does not make it fact no matter how much you wish it would. If this country is truly circling the drain it is from the efforts of those like yourself who have succumbed to the ulterior motives of persons whose only interest is to create distrust and gain power not granted to them by the Constitution.
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6/7/2022 11:26pm
BMSOBx2 wrote:
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can...
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can say is it's Biden's fault. Talk Amongst yourselves. Discuss.
philG wrote:
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with...
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with a team of high played Dem lawyers, who have since disappeared.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-matter-june-6-2-days-after-2000-mul…

And Sussman was never going to be found guilty in DC, but all of the information that was bought into evidence is now officially in the public domain as fact.

So all the things he did, are not in dispute, they are now fact.


It makes me laugh that people can be cheering for their country circling the drain.
BMSOBx2 wrote:
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you...
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you did read it you would know that "prosecutors were unable to prove the most serious charges dropping three felony counts that she filled out one voter's ballot and forged signatures on four other ballots". So this is your proof of "widespread voter fraud"? More like a pathetic attempt to try and justify the unfounded claims of 2,000 donkeys. By the way information being in the public domain does not make it fact no matter how much you wish it would. If this country is truly circling the drain it is from the efforts of those like yourself who have succumbed to the ulterior motives of persons whose only interest is to create distrust and gain power not granted to them by the Constitution.
So are you now saying there is widespread voter fraud, only not enough to change the outcome of the election?

You know this how exactly?

The first is a ballot fraud investigation launched by the Yuma County Sheriffs office. The second was a presentation given by the researchers behind the film “2000 Mules” to the Arizona state legislature. And during that presentation, they presented evidence of the cell phone tracking data they were able to combine, showing how more than 200 individual devices visited the ballot drop boxes in two of the state’s largest counties—no less than 5,700 times during the 2020 election.

Maybe they were Uber drivers?
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BMSOBx2 wrote:
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can...
Your 2,000 mules turned out to be donkeys, Sussamon was acquitted so both of the big lies have been proven false again and all you can say is it's Biden's fault. Talk Amongst yourselves. Discuss.
philG wrote:
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with...
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with a team of high played Dem lawyers, who have since disappeared.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-matter-june-6-2-days-after-2000-mul…

And Sussman was never going to be found guilty in DC, but all of the information that was bought into evidence is now officially in the public domain as fact.

So all the things he did, are not in dispute, they are now fact.


It makes me laugh that people can be cheering for their country circling the drain.
BMSOBx2 wrote:
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you...
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you did read it you would know that "prosecutors were unable to prove the most serious charges dropping three felony counts that she filled out one voter's ballot and forged signatures on four other ballots". So this is your proof of "widespread voter fraud"? More like a pathetic attempt to try and justify the unfounded claims of 2,000 donkeys. By the way information being in the public domain does not make it fact no matter how much you wish it would. If this country is truly circling the drain it is from the efforts of those like yourself who have succumbed to the ulterior motives of persons whose only interest is to create distrust and gain power not granted to them by the Constitution.
'Unable to prove' and 'didnt happen' are not the same thing. She plea bargained her way out of a felony, and has coughed to lesser multiple charges, of a lower level.
And this is a Mayor.. not a regular pleb, who could plead 'ignorance'.
Your willingness to accept this without question, shows you know the reality. But admitting it will mean admitting you are on the wrong side of the reality.

You only need to look at who is doing everything in their power to cover up anything they can, to know that it stinks.

You are probably the type of guy that would say there is no evidence of cheating in racing, and its fair, despite someone not willing to get torn down.

The truth needs no protection.
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APLMAN99 wrote:
Really? To be honest, I think that us Christians are probably some of the most judgmental people on earth........
No matter what people's differences may be, there's always something they can agree on.

And this is it.
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jjavaman wrote:
Right you are, indoctrinated into gun culture, thoughts and prayers,
Gworm wrote:
Teaching our boys to shoot or teaching them they can be a girl if they want. You teach your boy to be a girl, I’ll teach...
Teaching our boys to shoot or teaching them they can be a girl if they want.

You teach your boy to be a girl, I’ll teach mine to shoot. Fair nuff?
Was given my first gun at the age of 6.
Then a taco44 mini bike.
(Anyone remember those?)
And began liking girls soon after.
Never wanted to be one.

I find that perfectly normal human behavior
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I agree, context matters. I understand the USA is not a direct democracy. But surely you can understand what I am saying. The same people around...
I agree, context matters.
I understand the USA is not a direct democracy. But surely you can understand what I am saying.
The same people around here that seem to talk down to other countries, then go on to spout stuff about Biden committing the crime of the century and stealing the election, the conservative Supreme Court being in on it etc.
The same guys regularly post about how they hate basically half the country who are “libtards”
These guys complain so much around here like they hate the country, think the democratic process failed, the justice system is corrupt, half the citizens are fuckwits, hate the most powerful states, which they call communist, but then call themselves patriots and say the US is still the greatest country in the world.

For the record, I think the US is a great country, and I don’t believe any of the bullshit. But for those who do believe all of the bullshit theories, surely you can’t also think the country is great any more, given it is lead by an unelected criminal who stole power in a bloodless coup, with a justice system that is at best incompetent, and at worst complicit.
Did you see the last confirmation hearings of the latest Supreme Court Justice? A woman, that can't define what woman is. . . Dang bro. .
😂😂 yeah, what’s up with that crap?! Doesn’t a vagina denote a female anymore? I never got the memo indicating otherwise.
My buddy chopped his dick off and got a vagina. He still has male DNA.
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Time to find a new buddy.
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jjavaman wrote:
Right you are, indoctrinated into gun culture, thoughts and prayers,
Gworm wrote:
Teaching our boys to shoot or teaching them they can be a girl if they want. You teach your boy to be a girl, I’ll teach...
Teaching our boys to shoot or teaching them they can be a girl if they want.

You teach your boy to be a girl, I’ll teach mine to shoot. Fair nuff?
Was given my first gun at the age of 6. Then a taco44 mini bike. (Anyone remember those?) And began liking girls soon after. Never wanted...
Was given my first gun at the age of 6.
Then a taco44 mini bike.
(Anyone remember those?)
And began liking girls soon after.
Never wanted to be one.

I find that perfectly normal human behavior
What's interesting is that you can be canceled for what you consider normal behavior, and also be canceled for disagreeing with someone else's behavior.

I don't know how we are supposed to get by day to day.
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Was given my first gun at the age of 6. Then a taco44 mini bike. (Anyone remember those?) And began liking girls soon after. Never wanted...
Was given my first gun at the age of 6.
Then a taco44 mini bike.
(Anyone remember those?)
And began liking girls soon after.
Never wanted to be one.

I find that perfectly normal human behavior
Ditto that. Daisy BB gun at 5 and single shot .22 at 7.

Didnt have a Taco , mine was a generic brand-x version with a 3.5 Briggs edger engine w/centrifugal clutch and tire-paddle rear brake. Broke the pull rope so many times, I could pull the cowl off, rewind the pully with that flat spring apparatus underneath and re-install it all in about 15 minutes. Not bad for a 3rd grader.

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swordfish wrote:
My buddy chopped his dick off and got a vagina. He still has male DNA.
Was he your “good buddy “?

I won’t explain it but any older truckers should know what a good buddy is.

Maybe Professional will chime in.
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I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
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FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
The only thing I can add to this is, I dont recall seeing any President have the fanfare that Trump does. Whether Biden won legitimately or not, I have no clue, but I also don't think the flags/t-shirts/bumper stickers mean anything.

Being from Texas, you would think I saw Bush paraphernalia all of the time, but I never saw any outside of the occasional bumper sticker.

Trump mania is unlike anything I have ever seen.
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FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
The only Biden harris signs I see are on fuel pumps at gas stations.


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FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
tuggy450 wrote:
The only Biden harris signs I see are on fuel pumps at gas stations. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/06/08/554093/s1200_st_small_507x507_pad_600x600_f8f8f8.jpg[/img]
The only Biden harris signs I see are on fuel pumps at gas stations.


now that you mention it, Biden might have more stickers than any other president
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FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
I think you feel pretty spot on with most people. Some changes I might make but you're pretty spot on.
I personally have a hard time believing that Basement Joe (that's literally who he was pre-election)
got more legitimate votes than Rockstar Obama. People will chime in and say that they were voting against
Trump, but that makes no sense also. The people that were voting against Trump were ones that already hated
him when he ran against Hillary. Basement Joe couldn't find enough people that hated Trump enough to get a tenth the audience that Trump would get, probably not even a 20th. I don't believe there was a single strategy that overturned what would have been a Trump win. I think there there was a legitimate ballot harvesting strategy, there was information suppression by big tech (only has to influence ever so small percentage of voters), illegal ballots, and other things as well. All these things by them self a person can say well your evidence only shows such a small amount that it wouldn't have changed anything, but you add them all up and you've changed the outcome. But again, we'll never know because there will never be a legit investigation.
TM
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FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
ToolMaker wrote:
I think you feel pretty spot on with most people. Some changes I might make but you're pretty spot on. I personally have a hard time...
I think you feel pretty spot on with most people. Some changes I might make but you're pretty spot on.
I personally have a hard time believing that Basement Joe (that's literally who he was pre-election)
got more legitimate votes than Rockstar Obama. People will chime in and say that they were voting against
Trump, but that makes no sense also. The people that were voting against Trump were ones that already hated
him when he ran against Hillary. Basement Joe couldn't find enough people that hated Trump enough to get a tenth the audience that Trump would get, probably not even a 20th. I don't believe there was a single strategy that overturned what would have been a Trump win. I think there there was a legitimate ballot harvesting strategy, there was information suppression by big tech (only has to influence ever so small percentage of voters), illegal ballots, and other things as well. All these things by them self a person can say well your evidence only shows such a small amount that it wouldn't have changed anything, but you add them all up and you've changed the outcome. But again, we'll never know because there will never be a legit investigation.
TM
I'm not saying it was "stolen" but I will add that generally when there is smoke there is fire. If you look at it objectively..... Biden was in the basement practically the entire time. He went to unionized michigan and got into a fight with workers at a plant over guns stating "I don't work for you" to the guy. Mail in ballots became a "new" thing with many loopholes when it used to be you were disabled, in the military traveling, or traveling for work and you informed your state in advance. Then you have twitter, facebook, youtube, instagram, google all silencing one side and claiming disinformation due to "fact checking". After that we move on and find out twitter has way more bots and less followers then led to believe. Cell phone data showing people making crazy amounts of stops to mail in ballot drop points and randomly the data center for all of this information in Nashville happened to randomly be bombed?

Again, not claiming it was "stolen" but I do believe Trump upset the standard when he won in 16 and everyone was determined to oust him in 20. Today, things are not going well and it shows that you need practical policies and a WH that understands what is going on. They are either not paying attention, or do not give a shit.
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Zycki11 wrote:
I'm not saying it was "stolen" but I will add that generally when there is smoke there is fire. If you look at it objectively..... Biden...
I'm not saying it was "stolen" but I will add that generally when there is smoke there is fire. If you look at it objectively..... Biden was in the basement practically the entire time. He went to unionized michigan and got into a fight with workers at a plant over guns stating "I don't work for you" to the guy. Mail in ballots became a "new" thing with many loopholes when it used to be you were disabled, in the military traveling, or traveling for work and you informed your state in advance. Then you have twitter, facebook, youtube, instagram, google all silencing one side and claiming disinformation due to "fact checking". After that we move on and find out twitter has way more bots and less followers then led to believe. Cell phone data showing people making crazy amounts of stops to mail in ballot drop points and randomly the data center for all of this information in Nashville happened to randomly be bombed?

Again, not claiming it was "stolen" but I do believe Trump upset the standard when he won in 16 and everyone was determined to oust him in 20. Today, things are not going well and it shows that you need practical policies and a WH that understands what is going on. They are either not paying attention, or do not give a shit.
You dont get more votes than when you won last time, and win all the Bellweathers, and still lose.

And everything that is happening , is on purpose. All of it.
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6/8/2022 11:13am
FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
The obvious answer is that Biden didn't run a 'cult style' campaign. Not many presidential candidates or actual presidents have ever ran the same cultish style of campaign as Trump did/is doing.


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6/8/2022 11:34am
FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
ToolMaker wrote:
I think you feel pretty spot on with most people. Some changes I might make but you're pretty spot on. I personally have a hard time...
I think you feel pretty spot on with most people. Some changes I might make but you're pretty spot on.
I personally have a hard time believing that Basement Joe (that's literally who he was pre-election)
got more legitimate votes than Rockstar Obama. People will chime in and say that they were voting against
Trump, but that makes no sense also. The people that were voting against Trump were ones that already hated
him when he ran against Hillary. Basement Joe couldn't find enough people that hated Trump enough to get a tenth the audience that Trump would get, probably not even a 20th. I don't believe there was a single strategy that overturned what would have been a Trump win. I think there there was a legitimate ballot harvesting strategy, there was information suppression by big tech (only has to influence ever so small percentage of voters), illegal ballots, and other things as well. All these things by them self a person can say well your evidence only shows such a small amount that it wouldn't have changed anything, but you add them all up and you've changed the outcome. But again, we'll never know because there will never be a legit investigation.
TM
Zycki11 wrote:
I'm not saying it was "stolen" but I will add that generally when there is smoke there is fire. If you look at it objectively..... Biden...
I'm not saying it was "stolen" but I will add that generally when there is smoke there is fire. If you look at it objectively..... Biden was in the basement practically the entire time. He went to unionized michigan and got into a fight with workers at a plant over guns stating "I don't work for you" to the guy. Mail in ballots became a "new" thing with many loopholes when it used to be you were disabled, in the military traveling, or traveling for work and you informed your state in advance. Then you have twitter, facebook, youtube, instagram, google all silencing one side and claiming disinformation due to "fact checking". After that we move on and find out twitter has way more bots and less followers then led to believe. Cell phone data showing people making crazy amounts of stops to mail in ballot drop points and randomly the data center for all of this information in Nashville happened to randomly be bombed?

Again, not claiming it was "stolen" but I do believe Trump upset the standard when he won in 16 and everyone was determined to oust him in 20. Today, things are not going well and it shows that you need practical policies and a WH that understands what is going on. They are either not paying attention, or do not give a shit.
"They are either not paying attention, or do not give a shit." or option 3: they are doing it on purpose
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6/8/2022 11:55am
FLmxer wrote:
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to...
I didn't read any of this and don't follow politics but I always find it weird that I have never seen a Biden sign. Driving to my property I see about 20 Trump signs and a few big billboards still today. My neighborhood has about 6 Trump flags flying. I drove to Texas 17 hours and never saw a Biden anything but maybe 100 Trump signs. The Mexican roofing crew across the street all had Trump hats and shirts and I got a bid and the Mexican foreman went off on a stolen election. In Miami Haulover pass has dozens of boats daily flying Trump flags and most are not white.
I personally don't know anyone except my housekeeper who voted Biden and she is sorry. She told me about Trump saying all Mexicans are drug dealers and criminals and when she showed me i said i don't think he says that and after her listening closely she changed her mind on that. So I can see why people question it. The economy was the best I ever witnessed and my biggest loser friends were the best they ever have been and now the worst. 99 percent of gang members do vote a certain way so there is that I guess but only 50 percent of illegal aliens vote for what they are running from. It's definitely not clear cut that's for sure. I don't know how these things work but if its to get everyone fighting each other then I guess the government got that right. We should try no president for a term maybe. If you ask around the world what the most corrupt city is in politics, Chicago is a top answer. If it's one of the most corrupt than to succeed in politics there you must be questionable. Still to me the Left is group psychosis and the Right is group dementia. But I feel you can ignore the Right but the left will try to ruin your city or life for their feelings. I'm probably just sad that I thought I could stay retired but for the first time I think I may have to go back to work to survive and I am just checking in to see why.
tuggy450 wrote:
The only Biden harris signs I see are on fuel pumps at gas stations. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/06/08/554093/s1200_st_small_507x507_pad_600x600_f8f8f8.jpg[/img]
The only Biden harris signs I see are on fuel pumps at gas stations.


In 19 I ran the N east as usual but I had a few loads Newark NJ to so Cal . Honestly I never saw a biden sign but I did see a massive amount of support for Trump. Like mtn sides with large rocks all painted white 700 ft letters spelling Trump. A lot of semi trls stacked up and all painted at businesses. Beauty salons with stacked vans all painted up. Etc I never saw anything like it since the 80,s traveling. 2 months ago a election investigater called me and asked about my address. He,s a retired police officer a little older than me . He remembered me from hs. Some people voted 3 times. I had 13 mail in ballots with dem info mailed to me. I never had that happen even when your in a union you get a lot of pro dem stuff. There’s also the secret of a very powerful Phily mob guy that was told to Flip. Or numerous charges will be put on ya and your going back to prison but this time you,ll never get out. Put together teams of people . Fill out ballets around the clock, get trucks lined up to deliver, people to get election officials out of the bldg. I thought it was odd that there where told to leave now when they brought the boxes of ballets in. Teams where in Phily, Chicago, Detroit, Atlanta, etc.
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6/8/2022 12:35pm
philG wrote:
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with...
And yet one of the Mules identified in the film is currently trying to wangle a plea bargain in Arizona, after originally pleading not guilty with a team of high played Dem lawyers, who have since disappeared.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/facts-matter-june-6-2-days-after-2000-mul…

And Sussman was never going to be found guilty in DC, but all of the information that was bought into evidence is now officially in the public domain as fact.

So all the things he did, are not in dispute, they are now fact.


It makes me laugh that people can be cheering for their country circling the drain.
BMSOBx2 wrote:
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you...
Did you bother to read any of the information surrounding this or did you just look at the headlines? I suspect the latter. Because if you did read it you would know that "prosecutors were unable to prove the most serious charges dropping three felony counts that she filled out one voter's ballot and forged signatures on four other ballots". So this is your proof of "widespread voter fraud"? More like a pathetic attempt to try and justify the unfounded claims of 2,000 donkeys. By the way information being in the public domain does not make it fact no matter how much you wish it would. If this country is truly circling the drain it is from the efforts of those like yourself who have succumbed to the ulterior motives of persons whose only interest is to create distrust and gain power not granted to them by the Constitution.
philG wrote:
'Unable to prove' and 'didnt happen' are not the same thing. She plea bargained her way out of a felony, and has coughed to lesser multiple...
'Unable to prove' and 'didnt happen' are not the same thing. She plea bargained her way out of a felony, and has coughed to lesser multiple charges, of a lower level.
And this is a Mayor.. not a regular pleb, who could plead 'ignorance'.
Your willingness to accept this without question, shows you know the reality. But admitting it will mean admitting you are on the wrong side of the reality.

You only need to look at who is doing everything in their power to cover up anything they can, to know that it stinks.

You are probably the type of guy that would say there is no evidence of cheating in racing, and its fair, despite someone not willing to get torn down.

The truth needs no protection.
Who said it didn't happen? And she didn't plea bargain her way out of a felony. They could not prove the felony charges so they dropped them. She did plead to lesser charges and no one said anyting about accepting her breaking the law. This small town "former" mayor you claim is not a pleb is hardly a political mover and shaker in her town or her state. In fact the sum total of the felony election charges, (which they could not prove), adds up to a total of 4, count them, 4 ballots. A far cry from The Mass voter fraud you would have us believe and far from the validation you seek for 2000 donkey's falsehoods. Who's trying to cover that up? How many audits has the State of Arizona held already? Even the GOP-led state audit in Arizona found that Biden won buy even more votes than originally counted. I asked you if this was your proof of mass voter fraud in this country. Well is it? Because if it is it's a pretty poor example.
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6/8/2022 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 6/8/2022 1:48pm
Don’t forget about the stacks of ballots that were supposedly mailed in, but were laying perfectly flat. If they had been mailed they would have had to have been been folded to put in an envelope and would not be perfectly flat like a pack of paper.

Btw FJB
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