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On Saturdays, yes. The rest of the time, I believe camping on other days is only permitted for the bigger events (Motofest, World Vet, etc).

Chuckie108 is spot on. CMC Golden States were as big as a National back then, it was crazy how many entries there would be in the opening rounds of the series. Both tracks would be packed all day. Stu ran an awesome program. There are also tons of GP trails in the hills, I was more into moto, but the GP's I did there were a blast. Here's a soso pic of Animal Leap from 1989. If you went straight instead of turning right at Talladega, that's basically where it was. I wish i still had that custom painted JT...

I got to race the vet track back in 2012 when it was REM. It was one of the most fun races I can remember, a challenge without feeling like it was do or die.

It’s a compliment. I appreciate the detailed history and the time you took. GH is a great place.

There’s also miles of single track in the hills above both tracks going all the way back to the 15 fwy/ amphitheater that get used for off road races. I’ve even raced on the CHP road course that is out past the truck track during a 24hr of Glen Helen. They also hosted a hard enduro for years there, probably the steepest hills I’ve ever gone down were in the hills of Glen Helen.

https://socalvetmx.org/ The old guys and the almost old guys have a race on the main June 14th. They’re a fairly low key fun group to race with. Usually 16-18 minute motos depending on the class. They have a support class too so you don’t need to be old.

Totally forgot to mention the ridges 🤣🤣 miles of ridges up on the mountain. There’s one above the hill then another on the other side above the truck track. These are used when it rains for GPs. They’ll run them for stuff like the endurance races too. 6-10-24 hour. the NGPC they typically rent these bad ass water trucks to run them for that too.

Here's some history: Originally opened in the 70's as Arroyo Cycle Park in the same location as the Vet/REM/Arroyo track is at now. I believe it only ran for a few years. Then at some point, Bud gets the lease in the 80's and opens a sand drag strip which was located where it says "Glen Helen Raceway" on brocster's map above. If you look at it, you can still see how the layout was built around the drag strip. This area is used for parking now and as the pits for the endurance series. Around this time, they also...

They’re on both. This Saturday at the Glen is on the national track. Then there’s an SRA GP Sunday which will go national track then off road section, over to the vet track (REM/Arroyo) then head down to the truck track area. Sometimes we go on the truck track, sometimes we go like around it. There are some sand washes over there that are sick. the big hill is open quite a bit. They route it differently all the time. Sometimes we hit the first hill & when you turn right just head to the top, instead of turning back...

I used to occasionally race REM back in the ‘00s. Everything about it was laid back. Somehow they were able to get in practice and all motos and be done for the day by the early afternoon. The track was challenging without being frightening and the turnout of famous fast old guys was remarkable. I got my doors blown off by more 60 and 70 year old dudes than I care to remember! They all seemed to be on electric start pumpkins!

Do they still actively use them? It was looking pretty overgrown the last few races I've been out at GH for(2 stroke natty, Blu Cru, Motofest)

Saturday at The Glen Schedule. https://www.glenhelen.com/saturday-mx

Yes, they use the bottom one a lot. Top is usually only used when it rains.

Most of the time the REM/Vet/Arroyo track is a stand alone layout that has some cool up hill down hill sections of its own that can be steep depending on how they route it. Think of a smaller version of the National Track. Sometimes for bigger races they will run the National track and cross over the hill and run some of the vet track then back across to the National track to increase lap times and as NickNak said for off-road and say Day in the dirt they include lots of other off road terrain to make really long...

Blue lines are typical the connection point when they combine the National track and the Vet/REM/Arroyo. For the longer GPs they include a lot of what you see on the property.

Does anyone know on Saturday if the vet track will be open to ride if they are holding a race on the national track? I was thinking of heading there, first time riding in 6 years! 🫪