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Well this thread went to shit with the usual thread killer suspects.....

Don't waste your time, Hair Lip hates everything about dirt bikes.

Ita fine to report on the facts, and also BS that they didnt post Anderson's arrest report. Anderson literally had to sit out of SX halfway through and somehow that wasn't worthy of showing the public record, but Mike has been retired for years and somehow that's picked up.

The YZ is far closer to the KTM than the KX is to the YZ. We have multiples of all 3 on our team. My boy is fastest on the YZ

Kawi issues aside, I regularly hear that you have to be on an Austrian 85 to be competitive, meanwhile the world title was just won by an Aussie kid on a Yami.

Uncle Rico has joined the conversation, guys!

I've been riding mx for ~34 years.... So yeah, I ride, and pinning it down Mt. Martin looks sketchy af. Doing 55-65mph at that speed in a rough and rutted track is gnarly and one small error has you cartwheeling down a long hill. If that's not sketchy to you then you haven't done it, you haven't hit the ground hard, or you don't have any natural sense of self-preservation.

What Kind’ve High School response is that ?

I'd be a bit worried about how far they had lowered their standards for sponsored riders if they started giving bikes to the guy drinking beer on the porch.

This is me not giving a fuck about proving my experience to any random person on the internet who tries to use stupid phrases to explain themselves. China junk is China junk for a reason.

The other brands innovate the Chinese one's just copy the known formula. I've seen a couple cfmoto in person the welds and fasteners look lower grade.

Everyone knows MC's number ....

Not to mention Austria and Japan don't have missile silo's and nuclear subs pointed at the U.S. I'm literally shocked at how many people into moto would support buying a chinese mx bike when their government spends military money with the intended purpose to kill us!!!

I remember a few years back, in a shootout there were 5 manufacturers. Now there are double that. Thats good.

We've had a flood of Chinese EV's coming into the UK over the last few years and everyone was raving about the price, performance etc, and they've been selling well. The bloody things are everywhere in a small amount of time. But after 3 years, a new car has to start having a yearly MOT (all round check to make sure the car has no safety issues), and the 3 years and older chinese EV's are getting flagged for already having chassis issues; rust, rot etc. Their technology might be up to par, but they still sneak in some pig-iron...

Even assuming the quality were the same as Japanese bikes, which I very highly doubt, I prefer to make purchases (especially larger dollar examples like this) from a democratic nation that does not threaten and harass its neighbors and lock up its citizens in what are essentially re-education camps. (And yes, I'm aware the US government removed Japanese Americans from their homes on the west coast after Pearl Harbor. It was wrong then, and I believe now almost universally accepted as a grievous mistake on the part of our government, made during the hysteria following the attack on Hawaii).

...so when your Chinese gearbox locks up solid over the big jump and you lawn dart like Chase Sexton at Colorado, will the 2 grand less you spent on this thing be worth it? I'd buy a used Honda or KTM before I would trust this thing. Good luck finding parts easily too. Support your established Japanese and Austrian dirt bike dealers instead of a country that copies existing technology and sell it with lower quality materials. Fuck China.

The engine/frame use alot of similar looking components. Notice the battery box location behind the cylinder.

Im sure the Chinese dissected many of the leading brands and did some RE. There seems to be a lot of CF Moto bikes and sides by sides around. I was under the impression that KTM made the motors for them. ? Hard to get that “made in china” taste out of my mouth.