TBT Racing drama

yak651
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yak651 wrote:

You get an ez-up and some t-shirts. Seems like a great business decision 

You only get those if you pay extra and if its actually available...ask the guys who have tried to operate their franchises without access to that...

You only get those if you pay extra and if its actually available...ask the guys who have tried to operate their franchises without access to that branded stuff.

Curious if anyone knows the cost of a pro-action franchise? The $15k seems pretty steep for a name most non-locals have never heard of

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lowkey
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8/17/2026 7:27pm

Save all the bullshit drama … ride jbi is better than any of those guys 

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Bow977
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Speaking from experience... dropped off a set of forks one night at a race and said just need oil and seals, come back to 800$ charge later for god only knows what.

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8/18/2026 4:12pm Edited Date/Time 8/18/2026 4:13pm

https://tbtracing.com/

judging by his writing and presentation skills here selling his $3,500 "technical training class" (and knowing what we know now), i would never hitch my wagon to this character as a "business leader". when it comes to poor writing, there's scatter brained mad scientist and there's hyperactive hustler. this reads like the latter. 

"Here is a sample of the kinds of things we teach at the 6 day

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thats it. thats the sample. cool.

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4 Franchises Left in the last  4 months....

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8/23/2026 2:21pm
All I can say is I’ve had nothing but great experiences with Travis and his TBT dealer Corey here in Southern Utah. Travis has always been...

All I can say is I’ve had nothing but great experiences with Travis and his TBT dealer Corey here in Southern Utah. Travis has always been super kind to me and has always helped out whenever I’ve needed it especially after some serious TBIs I had a few years ago. I’ve always been extremely happy with their settings as well. He definitely knows what he’s doing. I’ve tried a lot of different companies in SoCal and a couple here in Utah and Travis seems to nail it with his valving and gives me the feel I’m looking for. TF is genuinely one of the most passionate humans you’d ever meet. Super glad to have TBT around here in Utah now as well. 

Rocketship wrote:

piss off Travis

yak651 wrote:

The serious TBIs are showing 

You’re a scumbag 

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8/23/2026 2:22pm
lowkey wrote:

Save all the bullshit drama … ride jbi is better than any of those guys 

Their “dealer” here in southern Utah is a joke and just does drugs in his garage every night and has F***ed up multiple bikes from people that I know. 

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9/10/2026 8:02am

Looks like there will be another class end of the month,    Just wanted to bump this thread up in case anyone gets offered a Franchise.   Do your homework! 

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9/10/2026 1:32pm
Bow977 wrote:
Speaking from experience... dropped off a set of forks one night at a race and said just need oil and seals, come back to 800$ charge...

Speaking from experience... dropped off a set of forks one night at a race and said just need oil and seals, come back to 800$ charge later for god only knows what.

He did the same shit to a buddy of mine and his dad. Made me look like an asshole for facilitating the "deal"

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9/10/2026 2:26pm

I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa. Suddenly closed up shop and skipped town outta state. People got hosed on getting thier stuff back. 

Hopefully that worked out never heard anything more. I heard it was supposedly he owed the state taxes. And for a long while there i never saw or heard of anyone with tbt stuff.  Until like 10 ish years ago I saw something mentioned tbt in so cal. 

 

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9/11/2026 1:26pm
I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa...

I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa. Suddenly closed up shop and skipped town outta state. People got hosed on getting thier stuff back. 

Hopefully that worked out never heard anything more. I heard it was supposedly he owed the state taxes. And for a long while there i never saw or heard of anyone with tbt stuff.  Until like 10 ish years ago I saw something mentioned tbt in so cal. 

 

That was back in 04 when he Tax Warrants out by the State of Washington. He has been sued multiple times as Tuning By Travis which is probably why he had to change the business name and LLC names so it's harder to track and find.

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I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa...

I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa. Suddenly closed up shop and skipped town outta state. People got hosed on getting thier stuff back. 

Hopefully that worked out never heard anything more. I heard it was supposedly he owed the state taxes. And for a long while there i never saw or heard of anyone with tbt stuff.  Until like 10 ish years ago I saw something mentioned tbt in so cal. 

 

That was back in 04 when he Tax Warrants out by the State of Washington. He has been sued multiple times as Tuning By Travis which...

That was back in 04 when he Tax Warrants out by the State of Washington. He has been sued multiple times as Tuning By Travis which is probably why he had to change the business name and LLC names so it's harder to track and find.

Whoa!!   So  it looks like he may have a history!  

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Can you guys help me understand why a franchise model was used for a suspension shop? Never understood this.And why is a suspension company spending a...

Can you guys help me understand why a franchise model was used for a suspension shop? Never understood this.

And why is a suspension company spending a bunch of money for a Vegas boondoggle with motivational speakers?

What the fuck am I missing about the suspension tuning business?

jmurphy243 wrote:

That it takes one hour and $100 in parts to charge you $1500 for a revalve. 

Some tuners skip the $100 in parts and just slap a sticker on and wallah!!! 

You got your suspension "done" whatever the hell that means... 

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I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa...

I guess nobody remembers in the early 2000's 05? Ish. I don't know the whole details. Just recall he had a tbt shop in Monroe wa. Suddenly closed up shop and skipped town outta state. People got hosed on getting thier stuff back. 

Hopefully that worked out never heard anything more. I heard it was supposedly he owed the state taxes. And for a long while there i never saw or heard of anyone with tbt stuff.  Until like 10 ish years ago I saw something mentioned tbt in so cal. 

 

That was back in 04 when he Tax Warrants out by the State of Washington. He has been sued multiple times as Tuning By Travis which...

That was back in 04 when he Tax Warrants out by the State of Washington. He has been sued multiple times as Tuning By Travis which is probably why he had to change the business name and LLC names so it's harder to track and find.

I remember back around 2000-2001 where he apparently burned Hillsboro Motorcycles (pre-Motosport Hillsboro days) for money concerning some bikes. Dont remember the details but heard it straight from their bookkeeper at the time. 

9/21/2026 12:55pm
3strokemx wrote:

What actually transpired?  I can only read to where they are arguing about location of the lawsuit then I hit the pay wall.

I'd like to know also. Dan was always a good guy when I knew him, but that was 35 years ago. I had heard he was doing suspension.

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9/21/2026 3:13pm Edited Date/Time 9/21/2026 3:16pm
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In your shoes I would start sponsoring drag queen events and shit as TBT suspension and online I'd impersonate the official social media accounts. 

Basically just try to create havoc and have fun

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9/21/2026 8:48pm Edited Date/Time 9/21/2026 8:49pm

Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from. I would get my paycheck and go straight to the shop to buy stuff. 
Out at SIR (now pacific raceway I believe) I messed up on a double and broke both my legs. 
I went to the hospital and a guy named Travis that worked at that shop said he’d take care of of my bike and stuff for me. 
When I got it back it was missing some aftermarket parts I had on it. And I allways thought it was that Travis guy that did it. 
I have wondered if it was this same guy? Can’t remember his last name from back then. 

Kinda funny if it was. Means he was a Douche bag from the beginning as a parts counter guy at the local shop. I do remember that Travis guy (who was younger then me I believe) told me to soak my new o-ring chain in gas to  loosen it up 🤣

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9/22/2026 8:52am
jmurphy243 wrote:

You should all be using Evo anyways. 

Sandusky26 wrote:

Another company that sells the name? No thanks.

Fenix for the win. Best in the game

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rstaichi wrote:
Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from...

Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from. I would get my paycheck and go straight to the shop to buy stuff. 
Out at SIR (now pacific raceway I believe) I messed up on a double and broke both my legs. 
I went to the hospital and a guy named Travis that worked at that shop said he’d take care of of my bike and stuff for me. 
When I got it back it was missing some aftermarket parts I had on it. And I allways thought it was that Travis guy that did it. 
I have wondered if it was this same guy? Can’t remember his last name from back then. 

Kinda funny if it was. Means he was a Douche bag from the beginning as a parts counter guy at the local shop. I do remember that Travis guy (who was younger then me I believe) told me to soak my new o-ring chain in gas to  loosen it up 🤣

Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).

Anyway, not trying to stop the lynch mob, just pointing out your situation is a different guy.

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rstaichi
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rstaichi wrote:
Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from...

Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from. I would get my paycheck and go straight to the shop to buy stuff. 
Out at SIR (now pacific raceway I believe) I messed up on a double and broke both my legs. 
I went to the hospital and a guy named Travis that worked at that shop said he’d take care of of my bike and stuff for me. 
When I got it back it was missing some aftermarket parts I had on it. And I allways thought it was that Travis guy that did it. 
I have wondered if it was this same guy? Can’t remember his last name from back then. 

Kinda funny if it was. Means he was a Douche bag from the beginning as a parts counter guy at the local shop. I do remember that Travis guy (who was younger then me I believe) told me to soak my new o-ring chain in gas to  loosen it up 🤣

Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).Anyway, not trying to...

Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).

Anyway, not trying to stop the lynch mob, just pointing out your situation is a different guy.

Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣

But I was sure his name was Travis but I guess not. I did try and find a picture of this guy but couldn’t find it.

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rstaichi wrote:
Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from...

Back in 91 pretty sure this is the guy that worked at a totem lake (Kirkland Wa) Kawasaki dealership that I used to buy stuff from. I would get my paycheck and go straight to the shop to buy stuff. 
Out at SIR (now pacific raceway I believe) I messed up on a double and broke both my legs. 
I went to the hospital and a guy named Travis that worked at that shop said he’d take care of of my bike and stuff for me. 
When I got it back it was missing some aftermarket parts I had on it. And I allways thought it was that Travis guy that did it. 
I have wondered if it was this same guy? Can’t remember his last name from back then. 

Kinda funny if it was. Means he was a Douche bag from the beginning as a parts counter guy at the local shop. I do remember that Travis guy (who was younger then me I believe) told me to soak my new o-ring chain in gas to  loosen it up 🤣

Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).Anyway, not trying to...

Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).

Anyway, not trying to stop the lynch mob, just pointing out your situation is a different guy.

rstaichi wrote:
Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣But I was sure his name was Travis but...

Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣

But I was sure his name was Travis but I guess not. I did try and find a picture of this guy but couldn’t find it.

Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track to ride, even when you snuck in to practice and it was tore up, I loved that place.  The crashes just hit a little different.  lol

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Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).Anyway, not trying to...

Travis worked at Issaquah Honda during that time, he never worked at Totem Lake Kawasaki (Aaron Shardleman did though if you remember him!).

Anyway, not trying to stop the lynch mob, just pointing out your situation is a different guy.

rstaichi wrote:
Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣But I was sure his name was Travis but...

Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣

But I was sure his name was Travis but I guess not. I did try and find a picture of this guy but couldn’t find it.

Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track...

Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track to ride, even when you snuck in to practice and it was tore up, I loved that place.  The crashes just hit a little different.  lol

I miss that place. Rocks sucked but the layout and elevation were a blast.

Getting hit with a tennis ball-sized rock, not so much, lol.

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Good old Tuner…

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lowkey wrote:

Save all the bullshit drama … ride jbi is better than any of those guys 

Their “dealer” here in southern Utah is a joke and just does drugs in his garage every night and has F***ed up multiple bikes from people...

Their “dealer” here in southern Utah is a joke and just does drugs in his garage every night and has F***ed up multiple bikes from people that I know. 

"live a life, where people can look at you and go 'that dude loves Jesus'"
 

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rstaichi wrote:
Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣But I was sure his name was Travis but...

Yea I’ve had a bunch of head injuries and getting older so I will not doubt your post.🤣

But I was sure his name was Travis but I guess not. I did try and find a picture of this guy but couldn’t find it.

Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track...

Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track to ride, even when you snuck in to practice and it was tore up, I loved that place.  The crashes just hit a little different.  lol

PNWMXer wrote:

I miss that place. Rocks sucked but the layout and elevation were a blast.

Getting hit with a tennis ball-sized rock, not so much, lol.

I loved Racing at Jolly Rogers. 

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Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track...

Jolly Rogers was my favorite place for a concussion!  No doubt, your head was guaranteed to hit a rock! 😄  Though it was a fun track to ride, even when you snuck in to practice and it was tore up, I loved that place.  The crashes just hit a little different.  lol

PNWMXer wrote:

I miss that place. Rocks sucked but the layout and elevation were a blast.

Getting hit with a tennis ball-sized rock, not so much, lol.

I loved Racing at Jolly Rogers. 

Are you guys talking about Jolly Rock?

I only raced there twice, Pac-West races in 89-90 on Saturday. The Sunday race was at SIR. If I remember right the track ran between 2 small valleys? When you climbed out of the lower valley up a hill you got machine gunned with rocks?

In 89 it rained so hard they canceled the 2nd motos as there was this one hill people were having a hard time getting up. Dad and I were parked next to two guys who were loggers. Friendly guys who joked with dad about seeing a spotted owl on the way to the track and stopping to throw rocks at it. 

In 1990 it was dry and I cant remember a thing about it but a buddy went with me and we stayed Saturday night in Seattle with his mom and very religious step dad.  He made sure and let me know his beliefs. I was respectful of course as he was letting me stay in his house and fed me a couple of meals. All he wanted from me was that i listened to him and didn't interrupt. 

Then in 91 they had both days of the Pac West round at SIR?

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PNWMXer wrote:

I miss that place. Rocks sucked but the layout and elevation were a blast.

Getting hit with a tennis ball-sized rock, not so much, lol.

I loved Racing at Jolly Rogers. 

Are you guys talking about Jolly Rock?I only raced there twice, Pac-West races in 89-90 on Saturday. The Sunday race was at SIR. If I remember...

Are you guys talking about Jolly Rock?

I only raced there twice, Pac-West races in 89-90 on Saturday. The Sunday race was at SIR. If I remember right the track ran between 2 small valleys? When you climbed out of the lower valley up a hill you got machine gunned with rocks?

In 89 it rained so hard they canceled the 2nd motos as there was this one hill people were having a hard time getting up. Dad and I were parked next to two guys who were loggers. Friendly guys who joked with dad about seeing a spotted owl on the way to the track and stopping to throw rocks at it. 

In 1990 it was dry and I cant remember a thing about it but a buddy went with me and we stayed Saturday night in Seattle with his mom and very religious step dad.  He made sure and let me know his beliefs. I was respectful of course as he was letting me stay in his house and fed me a couple of meals. All he wanted from me was that i listened to him and didn't interrupt. 

Then in 91 they had both days of the Pac West round at SIR?

I grew up about 20m from Jolly Rockeries and 45m from Seattle International Rockeries. First ride JR was late 66's - lots bruises and contusion at both of those tracks!! JR is a housing development now.....

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