What the hell is going on?’

kage173
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8/29/2026 7:48pm

So the best starter in history came around the first turn in 22nd and you want to tell me it's his ankle? 🙄

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mx691
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8/29/2026 8:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2026 8:11pm

Either Dazzy is now not really happy or you cant trust anything he says…

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8/29/2026 8:35pm

Hunter really stepped up his speed this year & the MX title was almost in his grasp until that slide down the Screw U at 'dilla. After the SX heartbreak he was on a mission this Summer. 

It was also blatantly obvious at Budds and Ironman that Jett wasn't going to get in the way of big bro winning this one. I said to my son 2 weeks ago that Jett is going to have issues at Budds Creek & Hunter will gain his points back. The crash in Moto 1 today threw a spanner in their plan, because Jett could have stayed right behind him & it never would have been questioned.

It was actually entertaining to listen to the crew try to call this & add excitement to the races. "What you see happening isn't really happening". Then we have JT suddenly trying to sound like a Cambridge English Major with his input. 

I'm happy for the Lawrence family & really glad Hunta got the chip. SMX rounds will be a lot of fun.

I love this sport. This event was a highlight of the year for me.

 

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8/29/2026 8:37pm

The amount of people wearing tin foil hats is wild! Not everything is a conspiracy! Hunta was a better rider this summer, Jett wasn’t 100% for it, and Jett dabbed his leg moto 1. The better rider won the title! 

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The Shop

8/29/2026 8:57pm

Happy for Hunter, well earned and deserved.  Sucks that Jett got hurt, but that's what happens eventually when you "drop your heals".  Took out Tomac as well as many other riders.  Not a matter of if, but when you get injured dropping your heals.  i used to do it.....until I blew out both ankles.  No more for me.

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8/29/2026 9:05pm

Can’t believe Jett let big bro just have the championship!!! Wow. I mean I get it, family is family but still, sportsmanship is lacking these days.

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8/29/2026 9:25pm

Do you people actually race or have siblings? 

There's zero chance Jett rolled over. Zero. Not the way any of these guys are wired and it doesn't even make sense to do it that way if you wanted to. 

As soon as I heard them talk about taking the ankle saver peg off I knew he was in trouble. Not a great idea to ask his foot to handle more range of motion than you've asked it to for the last two months. Almost guaranteed to be in pain when you do that. Jett looked today on the bike exactly like he did at the beginning of the year when he could barely walk. 

Beyond that, if you were going to throw the race, you don't ride around half speed, you crash, stall the bike, crash again, etc.... If Jett wanted to hand his brother the championship without suspicion, you go out and ride your ass off and put yourself on the ground and let everyone think you just pushed too hard racing for a championship. 

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8/29/2026 9:32pm

So for all the geniuses who believe Jett actually threw this race, explain this to me.


Why would he even go out for moto 2?  He’s hurt in moto 1, has a perfect excuse to not go out for moto 2 and take all the heat off of himself without losing second in the championship, but instead he still went out at 60% and tried to make it happen anyways in a last ditch effort.  Why would he do that if he wasn’t actually trying to win?  Had he not gone out for moto 2 nobody would even be questioning the severity of the injury, this entire theory that he hatched an elaborate scheme to let Hunter win is absolutely ridiculous.

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8/29/2026 9:38pm

Jett literally took Million Dollar paydays off Hunter's plate at least twice already... why would anyone think all of the sudden he wouldn't now?!

Oh and the guy who's been 30seconds behind all year is ahead. Clearly injured but sure, put the tinfoil hat on. Good lord.

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8/29/2026 9:38pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2026 9:42pm

Its pretty shit how many morons are casting shade on Hunter and Jett. You'd have to be the lowest of shit to keep dragging their efforts down. Miserable khunts. No wonder America is on the crest of becoming an islamic communist state. Have a good hard look at yourselves dumphuks.

Tiddlywinx like Ping, who's hardly travelled beyond Orange county in his life, has panic attacks taking his kid to a liberal city, cast a long deep shaddow on the Lawrences. I used to have some respect for the guy, now he's just an self entitled asshole. 

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8/29/2026 9:48pm
pilotdude wrote:

His qualifying pace VS his race pace proves that is not true.

El_Rayo wrote:

That would make sense if he didn’t lay down the fastest lap in that moto out of no where, with 2 laps left… 


Seems weird don’t it?

paul937 wrote:
Right here is one of the biggest problems in these situations: Misinformation. Most people just glance thru here and take it as the gospel, and then...

Right here is one of the biggest problems in these situations: Misinformation. Most people just glance thru here and take it as the gospel, and then it becomes an easy way for even more people to start piling on and believing it when they read something like that and go "See! There's even more proof, tell me how THAT'S possible?!?"  

Jett did NOT "lay down the fastest lap of the moto". He laid down HIS fastest lap of the moto! Huge difference (to the tune of almost four and a half seconds off Prado's fastest lap, and a full second or more slower than everyone else ahead of him in the top 10 except for Jordon Smith)

 Conspiracy theories take shape really quick when people might not know the facts, don't know where to find the facts, or are just too lazy to look it up themselves. I'm not accusing you or anyone in particular btw, just saying that misinformation like this throws fuel on the fire really quick, especially when most are just casually bench racing about a subject like this, (which btw as someone else mentioned, is calling a certain rider's integrity into question)

You are correct. I needed to word that better, he did not lay the fastest lap out of everyone, he rode HIS fastest lap. Thanks for catching. 

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8/29/2026 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2026 10:17pm

Hunter won, end of story. He was the better rider this Summer in every category and earned the title, despite the moto DNF at Unadilla. Excited for SMX playoffs and see how Deegan and Prado do against Hunter and Jett. Webb should be up there too it will be fun to watch. JuJu, Davies and Hymas should be fun to watch in 250 SMX. AND we get the women racing too for the finals!

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8/29/2026 10:27pm
kiwifan wrote:

I can't believe the conspiracy theories here, sad day for fans that this is even being talked about

Mxracer06y wrote:
Yea bro, how crazy it is that people talk about moto related things in a moto forum.... Crazy How dare we speculate and discuss a complete anomaly...

Yea bro, how crazy it is that people talk about moto related things in a moto forum.... Crazy

 

How dare we speculate and discuss a complete anomaly that happened during a tightly contested championship between brothers 😱

Well done you took my words and completely twisted them for your own narrative 

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8/29/2026 10:37pm

Jett was tiered as fk hearing about it every time they talked Moto.

"Here ya little bitch!, Ill give ya one".

No fkin way he hurt his ankle in turn one, nothing supports it.

Needs an Oscar for moto 2 prep behind the gate.

 

Bet Jett said "Thats it Mthr Fkr!, never again!."

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8/29/2026 10:37pm

All the sudden, just like that, the Deegan haters' bullshit meter ran out of batteries when it came to Jett riding a snails pace in moto 1 and miraculously feeling better for moto 2 while putting in a solid 3rd place ride! Now they believe the narrative that's being spoonfed to them.  

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8/29/2026 11:21pm
OwenJakes wrote:

Rewatch the start of moto 1. Im dying on this hill: Jett threw the moto before the first turn. 

Before the 1st turn of last week… when he picked a gate for no reason that went right off the track

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8/30/2026 12:37am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2026 12:39am
bd wrote:
The amount of people wearing tin foil hats is wild! Not everything is a conspiracy! Hunta was a better rider this summer, Jett wasn’t 100% for...

The amount of people wearing tin foil hats is wild! Not everything is a conspiracy! Hunta was a better rider this summer, Jett wasn’t 100% for it, and Jett dabbed his leg moto 1. The better rider won the title! 

vegas huh. u think paddock acted alone probably?

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8/30/2026 12:38am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2026 12:39am
Motodude wrote:
Its pretty shit how many morons are casting shade on Hunter and Jett. You'd have to be the lowest of shit to keep dragging their efforts...

Its pretty shit how many morons are casting shade on Hunter and Jett. You'd have to be the lowest of shit to keep dragging their efforts down. Miserable khunts. No wonder America is on the crest of becoming an islamic communist state. Have a good hard look at yourselves dumphuks.

Tiddlywinx like Ping, who's hardly travelled beyond Orange county in his life, has panic attacks taking his kid to a liberal city, cast a long deep shaddow on the Lawrences. I used to have some respect for the guy, now he's just an self entitled asshole. 

you just criticized ping for his views and also espoused his views together in the same post. 

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@jtmoney @Jt$ what shall we dub this caper? Anklegate? 

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8/30/2026 1:38am

It's pretty much impossible to figure out what went on out there...but it leaves an uneasy feeling...

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Crush wrote:
Jett literally took Million Dollar paydays off Hunter's plate at least twice already... why would anyone think all of the sudden he wouldn't now?!Oh and the...

Jett literally took Million Dollar paydays off Hunter's plate at least twice already... why would anyone think all of the sudden he wouldn't now?!

Oh and the guy who's been 30seconds behind all year is ahead. Clearly injured but sure, put the tinfoil hat on. Good lord.

We can see which Vital members are flat earthers in this thread.

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mx691
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8/30/2026 1:46am

As said, cant wait for the race review pods… will JT call in sick for the ironman review pod ? Will even RC4/RV2 tell their honest opinions..? 

 

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8/30/2026 1:48am
kage173 wrote:

So the best starter in history came around the first turn in 22nd and you want to tell me it's his ankle? 🙄

How does dabbing your foot on lap 1 lead to a bad start in that same moto in your world? 

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8/30/2026 1:53am Edited Date/Time 8/30/2026 1:59am

If the championship had been between jett and haiden deegan instead of jett and hunter .......And if things had gone the way they did yesterday.....jett would be the champioen now.......because he hates haiden deegan...

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Crush wrote:
Jett literally took Million Dollar paydays off Hunter's plate at least twice already... why would anyone think all of the sudden he wouldn't now?!Oh and the...

Jett literally took Million Dollar paydays off Hunter's plate at least twice already... why would anyone think all of the sudden he wouldn't now?!

Oh and the guy who's been 30seconds behind all year is ahead. Clearly injured but sure, put the tinfoil hat on. Good lord.

Motofinne wrote:

We can see which Vital members are flat earthers in this thread.

Nah Jett risking lifelong suspension of AMA sanctioned events (per the rulebook) to hand his brother the title by one single point is purely logical

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kage173 wrote:

So the best starter in history came around the first turn in 22nd and you want to tell me it's his ankle? 🙄

The best starter holeshot and came around the first turns in second.

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yardsailor
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8/30/2026 2:39am

Has anyone watched the Deegan crash in slow motion?

It sure didnt look like his front tucked or washed out. 
 

You wouldnt think he just tries to “tip” right there in front of Hunter?

Let me know your thoughts afyer watching. 
 

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8/30/2026 3:05am

Can you look back at the lap taptimes for the ama nationals like you can for mxgp??i....I'm curious to see how much jett picked up the pace in the first race after hunter overtook him.

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8/30/2026 3:15am
Motodude wrote:
Its pretty shit how many morons are casting shade on Hunter and Jett. You'd have to be the lowest of shit to keep dragging their efforts...

Its pretty shit how many morons are casting shade on Hunter and Jett. You'd have to be the lowest of shit to keep dragging their efforts down. Miserable khunts. No wonder America is on the crest of becoming an islamic communist state. Have a good hard look at yourselves dumphuks.

Tiddlywinx like Ping, who's hardly travelled beyond Orange county in his life, has panic attacks taking his kid to a liberal city, cast a long deep shaddow on the Lawrences. I used to have some respect for the guy, now he's just an self entitled asshole. 

I really wish I could give you 1000 downvotes.

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8/30/2026 3:17am
mxxxeR1 wrote:
Can you look back at the lap taptimes for the ama nationals like you can for mxgp??i....I'm curious to see how much jett picked up the...

Can you look back at the lap taptimes for the ama nationals like you can for mxgp??i....I'm curious to see how much jett picked up the pace in the first race after hunter overtook him.

215,216,217 most laps

Hunters were 214,215

Deegs were 215,216,217

Surprised deega only made it to p16


Track was fast and hard to make up positions

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