KTM 300sx vs 350sxf

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Nothing at all wrong with the rear end on a new KTM, new forks are more subjective but generally not bad with proper setup. Better than most forks available anyway 

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Hi Vital members, I need your help on choosing my next bike. I'm seconds away from pulling the trigger, but just can't decide on which bike...

Hi Vital members,

I need your help on choosing my next bike. I'm seconds away from pulling the trigger, but just can't decide on which bike. Any feedback from members that have ridden both would be very helpful to my decision.

Here are my stats

Height: 6'

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Riding Socal tracks primarily

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I have a 23 300sx and just bought a 24 350sxf. 5’11 202lbs, vet b rider Moto only. The 300 is the best bike for me by far. I am faster on it, enjoy it more and can ride longer then my 450. Why then did I buy a 350 yesterday? Because after 12 amazing hours my sx300 decided it was going to have an electrical problem, and some weird other stuff that makes the bike not operable (and yes it has all the updates latest release 6/14). I also had a TX300 2023 because I thought I’d ride woods, but after the SX300 issues i sold the TX300 yesterday. I will ride the 350 for 1-2 years then buy another 300 when they sort out these bikes. I know people who have 108 hours on them and no issue and I know some that have issues myself now among them. If you’re not concerned with potential issues like any new model year has then I’d say buy the 300. TBI is new tech for Moto so I feel these bikes will get refined over the next year or so. The new 300s are phenomenal, I just need the reliability to Improve and based on my experience recently, I bought a 350 to get me through the next year. 

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yz133rider wrote:

300 revs to 9k 350 revs to 13k I really doubt the 300 is faster overall🤷‍♂️

Power : Weight ratio.

300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a 300 because the HP isn't there.

 

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yz133rider wrote:

300 revs to 9k 350 revs to 13k I really doubt the 300 is faster overall🤷‍♂️

JK BRO wrote:
Power : Weight ratio. 300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a...

Power : Weight ratio.

300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a 300 because the HP isn't there.

 

The weight difference is only 6#. The 300 is like 2% lighter. 

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yz133rider wrote:

300 revs to 9k 350 revs to 13k I really doubt the 300 is faster overall🤷‍♂️

JK BRO wrote:
Power : Weight ratio. 300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a...

Power : Weight ratio.

300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a 300 because the HP isn't there.

 

soggy wrote:

The weight difference is only 6#. The 300 is like 2% lighter. 

Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio.

300 - 57hp / 219 dry

350 - 50hp / 228

 

The 300 has 7hp and weight 9lbs less. That's a huge advantage in terms of "dirt bikes".

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7/14/2023 10:48am
JK BRO wrote:
Power : Weight ratio. 300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a...

Power : Weight ratio.

300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a 300 because the HP isn't there.

 

soggy wrote:

The weight difference is only 6#. The 300 is like 2% lighter. 

JK BRO wrote:
Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio. 300 - 57hp / 219 dry 350 - 50hp / 228   The...

Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio.

300 - 57hp / 219 dry

350 - 50hp / 228

 

The 300 has 7hp and weight 9lbs less. That's a huge advantage in terms of "dirt bikes".

The 300sx makes 48hp37166EE7-ED89-4761-B959-FEDAE7150224.jpeg?VersionId=d2sEExpvtd

 

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7/14/2023 10:51am
JK BRO wrote:
Power : Weight ratio. 300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a...

Power : Weight ratio.

300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a 300 because the HP isn't there.

 

soggy wrote:

The weight difference is only 6#. The 300 is like 2% lighter. 

JK BRO wrote:
Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio. 300 - 57hp / 219 dry 350 - 50hp / 228   The...

Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio.

300 - 57hp / 219 dry

350 - 50hp / 228

 

The 300 has 7hp and weight 9lbs less. That's a huge advantage in terms of "dirt bikes".

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These 2 videos are pretty interesting. Same rider and track. The 300 looks way more exciting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rEfp6swxE&t=98s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwwuGttK23s&t=76s

These 2 videos are pretty interesting. Same rider and track. The 300 looks way more exciting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7rEfp6swxE&t=98s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwwuGttK23s&t=76s

Not the same day, not exactly the same track conditions (actually looked a little wetter on the 300 SX), slow guys in the wrong spot different times. But I re watched these with a stop watch and in general the 300 SX was 2- 3 seconds a lap faster than the 350 SX. 

Made me tired just re watching a bunch of times, good rider!

I actually owned both (still have the 300) I personally don't think one is really faster than the other, they just put the power down differently.

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JK BRO wrote:
Power : Weight ratio. 300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a...

Power : Weight ratio.

300 makes more HP and the 300 is lighter. You could rev the 350 to 25k and it still wouldn't catch a 300 because the HP isn't there.

 

soggy wrote:

The weight difference is only 6#. The 300 is like 2% lighter. 

JK BRO wrote:
Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio. 300 - 57hp / 219 dry 350 - 50hp / 228   The...

Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio.

300 - 57hp / 219 dry

350 - 50hp / 228

 

The 300 has 7hp and weight 9lbs less. That's a huge advantage in terms of "dirt bikes".

Yea not buying the 300 makes more rwhp. 

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7/16/2023 3:18pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2023 3:18pm
soggy wrote:

The weight difference is only 6#. The 300 is like 2% lighter. 

JK BRO wrote:
Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio. 300 - 57hp / 219 dry 350 - 50hp / 228   The...

Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio.

300 - 57hp / 219 dry

350 - 50hp / 228

 

The 300 has 7hp and weight 9lbs less. That's a huge advantage in terms of "dirt bikes".

soggy wrote:

Yea not buying the 300 makes more rwhp. 

Not sure why that's hard for you to believe? Pretty common for two stroke of similar size to have more HP and torque. 

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4 stroke easier to ride,  easier to clear jumps from a corner.  More maintenance.  
 

 

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7/16/2023 4:04pm Edited Date/Time 7/16/2023 4:05pm
JK BRO wrote:
Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio. 300 - 57hp / 219 dry 350 - 50hp / 228   The...

Exactly, you are literally proving my point. The 300 has better power:weight ratio.

300 - 57hp / 219 dry

350 - 50hp / 228

 

The 300 has 7hp and weight 9lbs less. That's a huge advantage in terms of "dirt bikes".

soggy wrote:

Yea not buying the 300 makes more rwhp. 

Not sure why that's hard for you to believe? Pretty common for two stroke of similar size to have more HP and torque. 

Per vitalmx dyno test at race tech with the 2023 300 and 350 the 350 makes more power, just higher in the RPM range. IMG 2660.jpeg?VersionId=o15 Jj7WLCGCcl8LBMW

 https://www.vitalmx.com/videos/features/2023-KTM-300-SX-Two-Stroke-Make…

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 If you ride both bikes below 9k rpm the 300 is going to be faster. From 10.5k rpm to 13k rpm the 350 out pulls the...

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 If you ride both bikes below 9k rpm the 300 is going to be faster. From 10.5k rpm to 13k rpm the 350 out pulls the 300. I think the dyno is showing the 2022 350 and not the 2023. This is from Vital's youtube.

There isn't a spot on the dyno the 350 can hold a candle to the 300. Not one. 300 makes ~3.5-4hp more everywhere. 10-15% more power...

There isn't a spot on the dyno the 350 can hold a candle to the 300. Not one. 300 makes ~3.5-4hp more everywhere. 10-15% more power through the entire curve. Nobody is riding a 300 2t at 10k rpm.

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You do see how the 350 smokes the 300 past 9k rpm right? The 350 has a 2500 rpm range where it makes more power than...

You do see how the 350 smokes the 300 past 9k rpm right? The 350 has a 2500 rpm range where it makes more power than the peak of the 300 which the 300 only hits for a few rpm. 

I forgot we ride bikes in 1 gear.

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There isn't a spot on the dyno the 350 can hold a candle to the 300. Not one. 300 makes ~3.5-4hp more everywhere. 10-15% more power...

There isn't a spot on the dyno the 350 can hold a candle to the 300. Not one. 300 makes ~3.5-4hp more everywhere. 10-15% more power through the entire curve. Nobody is riding a 300 2t at 10k rpm.

wrc777 wrote:
You do see how the 350 smokes the 300 past 9k rpm right? The 350 has a 2500 rpm range where it makes more power than...

You do see how the 350 smokes the 300 past 9k rpm right? The 350 has a 2500 rpm range where it makes more power than the peak of the 300 which the 300 only hits for a few rpm. 

I forgot we ride bikes in 1 gear.

Shifting takes time. 

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KTM rates both engines at 57 HP 

The 350 weighing 27.5kg 

The 300 at 23.9kg 

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7/17/2023 11:32am
FahQ wrote:

KTM rates both engines at 57 HP 

The 350 weighing 27.5kg 

The 300 at 23.9kg 

Many different dyno’s have shown the 300 at 46hp to 49hp 

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Ob917 wrote:

I had both. Sold the 350.

Sold my 350 bought 300.  For my good decision. 

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FahQ wrote:

KTM rates both engines at 57 HP 

The 350 weighing 27.5kg 

The 300 at 23.9kg 

Many different dyno’s have shown the 300 at 46hp to 49hp 

And where does the 350 dyno at?  
 

All I’m stating is KTM says they’re the same HP, obviously at the crank.  
 
 

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FahQ wrote:

KTM rates both engines at 57 HP 

The 350 weighing 27.5kg 

The 300 at 23.9kg 

Many different dyno’s have shown the 300 at 46hp to 49hp 

FahQ wrote:

And where does the 350 dyno at?  
 

All I’m stating is KTM says they’re the same HP, obviously at the crank.  
 
 

I posted the 300 and 350 on the same dyno on the same day a few reply’s up. 

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Many different dyno’s have shown the 300 at 46hp to 49hp 

FahQ wrote:

And where does the 350 dyno at?  
 

All I’m stating is KTM says they’re the same HP, obviously at the crank.  
 
 

AJ565 wrote:

I posted the 300 and 350 on the same dyno on the same day a few reply’s up. 

Owning both a the same time, my Butt Dyno pretty much confirms that dyno chart. They are both fast but different, one really isn't faster than the other. Kept the 300 just because I like 2 strokes. I was probably pretty much exactly the same speed on either.

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My talent or lack of limits my speed to the same speed as always. I’ve never ridden a magic bike that changes that, but more fun? Yep 300

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My talent or lack of limits my speed to the same speed as always. I’ve never ridden a magic bike that changes that, but more fun...

My talent or lack of limits my speed to the same speed as always. I’ve never ridden a magic bike that changes that, but more fun? Yep 300

Completely agree!

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I listened to the Keefer podcast about the 350 vs the 300 and it seems he was leaning towards the 300sx even though he is a...

I listened to the Keefer podcast about the 350 vs the 300 and it seems he was leaning towards the 300sx even though he is a huge 4 stroke guy.

Whatever happened with Keefer and the 300?  He talked up this bike so much when it first came out then crickets. 

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I’m considering a 24 or 25 300sx, but as wondering about issues with it! 

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Bringing this back up…. Anyone raced each on rough tracks? Thoughts? I have a ‘24 350 which I like and don’t feel meaningfully outgunned by 450s. I grew up racing 2Ts and am considering going back whether it be a 300 SX or possibly a KX327, depending on how they pan out. 

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PRM31 wrote:
Bringing this back up…. Anyone raced each on rough tracks? Thoughts? I have a ‘24 350 which I like and don’t feel meaningfully outgunned by 450s...

Bringing this back up…. Anyone raced each on rough tracks? Thoughts? I have a ‘24 350 which I like and don’t feel meaningfully outgunned by 450s. I grew up racing 2Ts and am considering going back whether it be a 300 SX or possibly a KX327, depending on how they pan out. 

I had a 23 300sx and 23 350sxf, now have a 25 250sx and 25 350sxf. For me there is zero question which one handles better when the track gets rough and that is the 350 by a long way. More planted, more stable and alot more confidence inspiring. Only thing the 2 stroke does better is turn a little easier but that can also be a bad thing.

When the track is smooth the 2 strokes are a blast but as soon as too many bumps appear I put the 2 stroke away. I'm also probably getting older and softer ha ha.

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PRM31 wrote:
Bringing this back up…. Anyone raced each on rough tracks? Thoughts? I have a ‘24 350 which I like and don’t feel meaningfully outgunned by 450s...

Bringing this back up…. Anyone raced each on rough tracks? Thoughts? I have a ‘24 350 which I like and don’t feel meaningfully outgunned by 450s. I grew up racing 2Ts and am considering going back whether it be a 300 SX or possibly a KX327, depending on how they pan out. 

I have both…have had both for 4 years….I”m a 2 stroke guy at heart….I think I am faster on the 300SX, but it takes more effort/ energy….softer dirt favors the 2 stroke, hard pack blue groove favors the 4 strokes….which one is better in the rough? I have conevalve forks on both, I have a very rough sand track I ride….hands down my 300SX feels way better than my 350”s …my 300 also has a great remap that lets it rev longer….the 350 needs to be ridden at very high rpm to access that HP, while the 300 can be short shifted, IMO that lets the suspension work better in the rough….

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