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kawasa84 wrote:
Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali...

Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ceasar Chavez, etc. 

Then boxing went Pay Per View, and the last well known boxer of the beginning of Pay Per View era is probably Iron Mike Tyson.  That's been decades ago.

95% of the population now couldn't name a current boxer in any weight class, much less the title (belt) holders of the classes.

Thats what happens when you take a sport for the masses and whittle it down to a niche group of fans. Boxing lost 95% of a casual fan base that knew of the sport, what the sport was about, where certain fights take place and are coming up, to literally Zilch. The nobody cares scale!

 

Now moto was never there, but for the 50-60% more people whois  did tune in to races for free on network or cable tv, those folks exited long ago like boxing. What is left is our small community who does care enough to purchase streaming networks subscriptions to watch racing. But with everything getting zapped from our pocket books now, an economy that leaves little extra, and certainly the bad taste in our mouths from Flo the last go around, this is enough for many of us.  I know I'm not taking on another subscription service, and certainly not Flo. 

So good luck, good riddance, and do what you can to not just survive, but thrive.

And that means, quit giving everyone else your hard earned dollars.

Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay They went to the pay per view when the tech caught up to allow people to pay over $100 to view the fight at home...to see any of the big matches in the 70's and early 80's like Ali-Frazier you had to watch it via closed circuit  I remember as a kid going to watch the big Ali fights at the local movie theatre to watch it live. ABC would do a follow up on the fights but could only show photographs of the action on TV and no replays so they would interview the fighters like a week after the fight. What killed boxing was the emergence of MMA (also on pay per view) so the analogy you are using with boxing is not correct....

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8/3/2026 8:49am

Interesting coincidence that once they banned Slowie they felt confident that footage wouldn't leak, so they could charge for access.

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As much as I hated to pay I did.  

Are they not showing practice live on FLO ?

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8/3/2026 12:34pm
kawasa84 wrote:
Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali...

Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ceasar Chavez, etc. 

Then boxing went Pay Per View, and the last well known boxer of the beginning of Pay Per View era is probably Iron Mike Tyson.  That's been decades ago.

95% of the population now couldn't name a current boxer in any weight class, much less the title (belt) holders of the classes.

Thats what happens when you take a sport for the masses and whittle it down to a niche group of fans. Boxing lost 95% of a casual fan base that knew of the sport, what the sport was about, where certain fights take place and are coming up, to literally Zilch. The nobody cares scale!

 

Now moto was never there, but for the 50-60% more people whois  did tune in to races for free on network or cable tv, those folks exited long ago like boxing. What is left is our small community who does care enough to purchase streaming networks subscriptions to watch racing. But with everything getting zapped from our pocket books now, an economy that leaves little extra, and certainly the bad taste in our mouths from Flo the last go around, this is enough for many of us.  I know I'm not taking on another subscription service, and certainly not Flo. 

So good luck, good riddance, and do what you can to not just survive, but thrive.

And that means, quit giving everyone else your hard earned dollars.

DonM wrote:
Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay...

Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay They went to the pay per view when the tech caught up to allow people to pay over $100 to view the fight at home...to see any of the big matches in the 70's and early 80's like Ali-Frazier you had to watch it via closed circuit  I remember as a kid going to watch the big Ali fights at the local movie theatre to watch it live. ABC would do a follow up on the fights but could only show photographs of the action on TV and no replays so they would interview the fighters like a week after the fight. What killed boxing was the emergence of MMA (also on pay per view) so the analogy you are using with boxing is not correct....

Love the downvotes when you are just sharing the truth lol.

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8/3/2026 1:11pm

Honestly my biggest issue is FLO tv, not the $40 itself.

 

One of the kids on the football team I coach is a top nationally ranked wrestler & my family wanted to watch him at worlds, which was hosted on FLO. We paid the $29.99 or whatever it was & for three straight days the matches we tried to watch weren't being hosted, or the link went to a different mat. We never saw a single match he was in.

 

FLO will never get another dollar out of me.

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8/3/2026 1:19pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2026 1:22pm
DonM wrote:
Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay...

Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay They went to the pay per view when the tech caught up to allow people to pay over $100 to view the fight at home...to see any of the big matches in the 70's and early 80's like Ali-Frazier you had to watch it via closed circuit  I remember as a kid going to watch the big Ali fights at the local movie theatre to watch it live. ABC would do a follow up on the fights but could only show photographs of the action on TV and no replays so they would interview the fighters like a week after the fight. What killed boxing was the emergence of MMA (also on pay per view) so the analogy you are using with boxing is not correct....

In the 60s and 70s, the high profile bouts were broadcast tape-delayed on the 3-letter networks. Cassius Clay v. Sonny Liston and Joe Louis bouts were 'closed-circuit' events. The broadcast was distributed to movie theaters which fans purchased tickets to gain entry. BUT (and here's the difference), the fights were also shown on ABC a few days to a couple of weeks later. I believe the same is true with the Indy 500. I remember watching that with my older brother at a theater downtown.

 

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All coverage lost world wide. 

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kawasa84 wrote:
Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali...

Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ceasar Chavez, etc. 

Then boxing went Pay Per View, and the last well known boxer of the beginning of Pay Per View era is probably Iron Mike Tyson.  That's been decades ago.

95% of the population now couldn't name a current boxer in any weight class, much less the title (belt) holders of the classes.

Thats what happens when you take a sport for the masses and whittle it down to a niche group of fans. Boxing lost 95% of a casual fan base that knew of the sport, what the sport was about, where certain fights take place and are coming up, to literally Zilch. The nobody cares scale!

 

Now moto was never there, but for the 50-60% more people whois  did tune in to races for free on network or cable tv, those folks exited long ago like boxing. What is left is our small community who does care enough to purchase streaming networks subscriptions to watch racing. But with everything getting zapped from our pocket books now, an economy that leaves little extra, and certainly the bad taste in our mouths from Flo the last go around, this is enough for many of us.  I know I'm not taking on another subscription service, and certainly not Flo. 

So good luck, good riddance, and do what you can to not just survive, but thrive.

And that means, quit giving everyone else your hard earned dollars.

DonM wrote:
Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay...

Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay They went to the pay per view when the tech caught up to allow people to pay over $100 to view the fight at home...to see any of the big matches in the 70's and early 80's like Ali-Frazier you had to watch it via closed circuit  I remember as a kid going to watch the big Ali fights at the local movie theatre to watch it live. ABC would do a follow up on the fights but could only show photographs of the action on TV and no replays so they would interview the fighters like a week after the fight. What killed boxing was the emergence of MMA (also on pay per view) so the analogy you are using with boxing is not correct....

Love the downvotes when you are just sharing the truth lol.

As you are aware some people don't want to know the truth....

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8/3/2026 4:06pm

So is anyone’s “free” stream from Amazon prime showing anything? I just get a screen with nothing else 🤷‍♂️

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8/3/2026 4:10pm
yak651 wrote:
So is anyone’s “free” stream from Amazon prime showing anything? I just get a screen with nothing else 🤷‍♂️

So is anyone’s “free” stream from Amazon prime showing anything? I just get a screen with nothing else 🤷‍♂️

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Thanks for your post that's the screen I have. THe coolest thing about LL was watching from home live all day. I have video now. 

 

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8/3/2026 4:12pm

Yep giving me some entertainment now

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This chubby guy is pitiful.

 

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This chubby guy is pitiful.

 

The applause/laugh track added to the preshow interviews is definitely worth at least $20, glad they went all in on ways to improve the show

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8/3/2026 5:02pm

It's on Prime right now. Kevin Kelley and Weege are live.

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8/3/2026 6:29pm Edited Date/Time 8/3/2026 6:35pm
kawasa84 wrote:
Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali...

Remember when boxing was a huge sport in the US? The fights were carried free on network tv.  Everyone knew or had heard of Muhamid Ali, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Marvin Hagler, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ceasar Chavez, etc. 

Then boxing went Pay Per View, and the last well known boxer of the beginning of Pay Per View era is probably Iron Mike Tyson.  That's been decades ago.

95% of the population now couldn't name a current boxer in any weight class, much less the title (belt) holders of the classes.

Thats what happens when you take a sport for the masses and whittle it down to a niche group of fans. Boxing lost 95% of a casual fan base that knew of the sport, what the sport was about, where certain fights take place and are coming up, to literally Zilch. The nobody cares scale!

 

Now moto was never there, but for the 50-60% more people whois  did tune in to races for free on network or cable tv, those folks exited long ago like boxing. What is left is our small community who does care enough to purchase streaming networks subscriptions to watch racing. But with everything getting zapped from our pocket books now, an economy that leaves little extra, and certainly the bad taste in our mouths from Flo the last go around, this is enough for many of us.  I know I'm not taking on another subscription service, and certainly not Flo. 

So good luck, good riddance, and do what you can to not just survive, but thrive.

And that means, quit giving everyone else your hard earned dollars.

DonM wrote:
Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay...

Ummmm.....boxing was on a pay per view basis way before it was on network TV and that was on HBO so you still had to pay They went to the pay per view when the tech caught up to allow people to pay over $100 to view the fight at home...to see any of the big matches in the 70's and early 80's like Ali-Frazier you had to watch it via closed circuit  I remember as a kid going to watch the big Ali fights at the local movie theatre to watch it live. ABC would do a follow up on the fights but could only show photographs of the action on TV and no replays so they would interview the fighters like a week after the fight. What killed boxing was the emergence of MMA (also on pay per view) so the analogy you are using with boxing is not correct....

Funny, I remember sitting at home with my grandma and a big tub of popcorn watching the Ali/Spinks fight on live tv and that was February 1978.   

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8/3/2026 6:52pm

Little Dave used to give it away…..now viewers have to pay and paaaaaaayyyy……..A subscription here and a subscription there, Loretta Lynn’s is now the place where they say, hey babe, you can’t watch Amateur racing free today…..And Cotter sings, “dough-de-do-dough-dough, dough-dough, dough-de-doo, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough de-do, do-do-do……..

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8/4/2026 6:12am
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Speaking of Flo Sports, there’s a lot of people that are understandably upset that RacerTV.com is not streaming the races live and free like they have...

Speaking of Flo Sports, there’s a lot of people that are understandably upset that RacerTV.com is not streaming the races live and free like they have the last 15 years or so. But the move to Flo means that next year all of the American Motocross Majors will stream live—Oak Hill’s Spring-A-Ding, Mammoth Mountain, the Dirty 100 at Ponca City, Mini O’s, RCSX, and more—as well as all of the Loretta Lynn’s Regionals next summer. GNCC Racing has also made the move to Flo. 

The deal also opens the door to some better production, added programming (like previews and post-race wrap-ups), and more comprehensive data across the board. 

Yes, the move stings, especially after being able to watch it for free for so many years, but like Monster Energy AMA Supercross, Pro Motocross, the FIM Motocross World Championship (MXGP), and more, the move to a streaming service presents more opportunities to watch pretty much of the big amateur races, not just Loretta Lynn’s and Mini O’s. And after a week, all of the motos will be archived and available to watch for free on RacerTV.com and YouTube.

I don't believe the better production angle. GNCC is the only thing I'd watch out of all of it. For the last few years the stream has been two lame camera angles in the woods and a drone shot where the riders look like ants (when you can see them through the trees). Why would I pay for that? The production was better 10-15 years ago....

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Little Dave used to give it away…..now viewers have to pay and paaaaaaayyyy……..A subscription here and a subscription there, Loretta Lynn’s is now the place where...

Little Dave used to give it away…..now viewers have to pay and paaaaaaayyyy……..A subscription here and a subscription there, Loretta Lynn’s is now the place where they say, hey babe, you can’t watch Amateur racing free today…..And Cotter sings, “dough-de-do-dough-dough, dough-dough, dough-de-doo, dough, dough, dough, dough, dough de-do, do-do-do……..

Sign sign everywhere a sign in paywall here and a pay wall there, hey Mr what gives you the right!?

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Message from the future:  "Most viewed Loretta Lynns in history".

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Can't even watch the Prime version in Canada. What a crock of shit. Hopefully all of the sponsors are super happy with the reduced viewership. 

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8/4/2026 7:15am

Happy to report I found an...alternative method to watch the weeks racing. 

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revkev151 wrote:

Happy to report I found an...alternative method to watch the weeks racing. 

DM me 😂

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8/4/2026 7:28am

I hope with the new revenue stream MX sports is finally able to pay the pro racers that didn't get their payout.

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8/4/2026 8:11am

My dad was saying you can watch on prime video is that true? 

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8/4/2026 8:16am Edited Date/Time 8/4/2026 8:18am

Partially.

Flo

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Gator724 wrote:
My dad was saying you can watch on prime video is that true? 

My dad was saying you can watch on prime video is that true? 

they are showing two hours of it every evening. It's not the full event.

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8/4/2026 8:18am

i'm on prime video now, says live feed starts at 1 pacific today. No extra cost

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otrdave wrote:

Message from the future:  "Most viewed Loretta Lynns in history".

*most payed for views in history

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GPrider wrote:
i'm on prime video now, says live feed starts at 1 pacific today. No extra cost

i'm on prime video now, says live feed starts at 1 pacific today. No extra cost

Yeah well that's 4 PM there so we will get to watch the PW classes. Oh joy.,

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