Deegan “riding the leaders pace”???

lumpy790 wrote:

More winner winner chicken dinners than I thought there would be.

How many jumped up mid season from 250 and did it? Only Jett?

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Going from 250SX to 450MX from the list I posted. 

Mike Alessi

Brett Metcalfe 

Tyla Rattray 

Chase Sexton 

Jett Lawrence 

RJ Hampshire

Haiden Deegan 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

I think it a testament to how fricking fast those Brothers are. He’s sitting 3rd in the points and been on the podium several times. So...

I think it a testament to how fricking fast those Brothers are. He’s sitting 3rd in the points and been on the podium several times. So far he is doing great, especially being a 450 Rookie. I thought his first moto last Saturday coming up for a top 5 after that first turn was pretty impressive.

Mavetism wrote:

"he is doing great, especially being a 450 Rookie."Depends on who you compare him with. With other 250 MX champs that moved up? Then no. Stat wise...

"he is doing great, especially being a 450 Rookie."

Depends on who you compare him with. With other 250 MX champs that moved up? Then no. 

Stat wise in the last 10 years the only upcoming 250 MX champs that did worse in their rookie years were Webb and AP.

Zacho, Cianciarulo, Ferrandis, Jett, and Hunter all did better in their first outdoor year.

 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

Yes ,but they weren’t racing the Brothers.You think sitting 3 in the championship and multiple podiums to this point isn’t great for a rookie?…..sorry I can’t...

Yes ,but they weren’t racing the Brothers.You think sitting 3 in the championship and multiple podiums to this point isn’t great for a rookie?…..sorry I can’t help ya.

Mavetism wrote:

"he is doing great, especially being a 450 Rookie."Depends on who you compare him with. With other 250 MX champs that moved up? Then no. Stat wise...

"he is doing great, especially being a 450 Rookie."

Depends on who you compare him with. With other 250 MX champs that moved up? Then no. 

Stat wise in the last 10 years the only upcoming 250 MX champs that did worse in their rookie years were Webb and AP.

Zacho, Cianciarulo, Ferrandis, Jett, and Hunter all did better in their first outdoor year.

 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

Yes ,but they weren’t racing the Brothers.You think sitting 3 in the championship and multiple podiums to this point isn’t great for a rookie?…..sorry I can’t...

Yes ,but they weren’t racing the Brothers.You think sitting 3 in the championship and multiple podiums to this point isn’t great for a rookie?…..sorry I can’t help ya.

decano51 wrote:

yeah but Deegs isn't racing RV2,Dungey, Reed, Stewart, Roczen or prime Tomac. Other wise Deegs would be further back in points? (more than the current 50 points...

yeah but Deegs isn't racing RV2,Dungey, Reed, Stewart, Roczen or prime Tomac. Other wise Deegs would be further back in points? 

(more than the current 50 points he is back..)


See how silly that sounds?

DonJulio wrote:

He was well on his way to being 20+ seconds back Millville moto 2…..so how do we know he has really made improvements? If we act...

He was well on his way to being 20+ seconds back Millville moto 2…..so how do we know he has really made improvements? If we act like Jett wasn’t gapping him Hunter still beat deegs by 15 seconds….oof

BossWool2800 wrote:

What was Deegan’s overall finish last weekend?

DonJulio wrote:

He was well on his way to being 20+ seconds back Millville moto 2…..so how do we know he has really made improvements? If we act...

He was well on his way to being 20+ seconds back Millville moto 2…..so how do we know he has really made improvements? If we act like Jett wasn’t gapping him Hunter still beat deegs by 15 seconds….oof

yardsailor wrote:

Who gives a shit. Was Deegs gapping anyone?This shit gets old. Is life so miserable for some that they just have to make sure everyone knows how...

Who gives a shit. Was Deegs gapping anyone?

This shit gets old. 

Is life so miserable for some that they just have to make sure everyone knows how far back he was? 
So like if you could convince everyone that Deegs cannot ride and should hang it up, would that make you happy? 
 

DonJulio wrote:

Sorry Brian 

DonJulio wrote:

He was well on his way to being 20+ seconds back Millville moto 2…..so how do we know he has really made improvements? If we act...

He was well on his way to being 20+ seconds back Millville moto 2…..so how do we know he has really made improvements? If we act like Jett wasn’t gapping him Hunter still beat deegs by 15 seconds….oof

yardsailor wrote:

Who gives a shit. Was Deegs gapping anyone?This shit gets old. Is life so miserable for some that they just have to make sure everyone knows how...

Who gives a shit. Was Deegs gapping anyone?

This shit gets old. 

Is life so miserable for some that they just have to make sure everyone knows how far back he was? 
So like if you could convince everyone that Deegs cannot ride and should hang it up, would that make you happy? 
 

Chuck_Nice wrote:

Deegan lives in the haters heads!

DonJulio wrote:

Funny you tell me to calm down after you post this. Typical deegan fan. Hypocrite 

DonJulio wrote:

Funny you tell me to calm down after you post this. Typical deegan fan. Hypocrite 

Austin Keyfinger wrote:

How many holes have you punched in your drywall that were fueled by Deegs?

DonJulio wrote:

a lot less than the die hard bed bugs!

The Moth wrote:

Deegan had faster laps than Hunter on laps 10, 14, 15, and 17. Haiden had faster laps than Jett on laps 10, 11, 14, 15, 16...

Deegan had faster laps than Hunter on laps 10, 14, 15, and 17. Haiden had faster laps than Jett on laps 10, 11, 14, 15, 16, and 17.  So on lap 10, while pushing through the pack, Deegan had a faster lap. The remainder of the laps, Deegan was basically running their pace as the broadcast stated. But none of that matters because you’ll just conjecture that Hunter and Jett were just out there for a cruise, enjoying the sites and sounds, right?

It’s interesting to contrast last week where Lucas went from last to 4th, and this week where Deegan went from last to 4th. So I did a little digging. 

The comments section in the Bench Racing thread last week looked like this:

“Lucas is in 13th already, wtf”

“Oh my God this guy is hauling”

“Lucas just matched Jett’s pace 3rd lap passing like 10 guys”

“top ten already ?????”

“Herlings 2.0?”

What’s interesting is that if you look at the lap times for Southwick, Lucas had the fourth fastest lap behind Jett, Deegan and Hunter.  

Now compare the comments in the Bench Racing thread where Deegan goes from dead last to 4th:

“You ain’t going to be the champion, Doucheboy”

“Deegan is sending  but still losing time to Hunta”

“ unreal would be dead last to the win…#bedbugssodesperate”

“Deegan is a beast and all but I think this race also shows outside three or four guys the field is pretty weak”

“A a lot of those last passes were old men”

To be fair, there were comments also giving Deegan props for his ride, even by those who are not fans of Haiden. But when you look at the negative comments, it shows the disparity and the bias that many of you have when it comes to Haiden Deegan.

And we’re supposed to think that you are looking at this objectively?  This place encapsulates idiocracy when it comes to Haiden Deegan; like a dystopian anti-intellectual habitat for so called moto fans who care neither for facts or fairness. 

gerg wrote:

What's so hard to understand?He's acts like a total asshole, because he is one.  He talked a lot of shit before the season (and still does)...

What's so hard to understand?

He's acts like a total asshole, because he is one.  He talked a lot of shit before the season (and still does), accused Jett of using his foot as an excuse when he never did, while constantly coming up with his own repeated excuses; "It's my rookie year, still building, learning year, not as much time on a 450 than all these veterans."

Therefor, there will naturally be people who are happy to shit on him when he doesnt live up to expectation.

Coenen on the other hand, lets his riding do the talking, and acts like an actual normal person...not some tweaking yapping fuck tard, therefor he will generally appeal to fans with functioning brain cells.

The Moth wrote:

It’s not hard to understand at all. I understand it perfectly well which is why I said that this place is a microcosm of idiocracy when...

It’s not hard to understand at all. I understand it perfectly well which is why I said that this place is a microcosm of idiocracy when it comes to Deegan. Pretty ironic you’d talk about appealing to people with functioning brain cells when you’ve shut off critical thinking and have instead replaced it with your feelings about Deegan.  

You are just reaffirming my point that when it comes to Deegan, his haters are essentially letting their personal feelings, and to emphasize, opinions of Haiden, cloud any fair or charitable thoughts they might have on the matter. 

Lucas goes from last to 4th and we hear that he’s Herlings 2.0. Deegan does the same thing, passing the same riders, and he’s just passing “old men” in a field that is weak outside the top 3 or 4 riders. How’s that work?  

It seems to me that all you did was admit you’re biased. 

 

DonJulio wrote:

a lot less than the die hard bed bugs!

Austin Keyfinger wrote:

Is it his confidence in himself that bothers you. Sounds like maybe you might have an issue with self confidence. 

TeamGreen wrote:

There's this ol' sayin',,,

Something bout a dead horse?

Or the meme with Fonzie jumping the shark?

They both apply. 🤣

The Moth wrote:

It’s not hard to understand at all. I understand it perfectly well which is why I said that this place is a microcosm of idiocracy when...

It’s not hard to understand at all. I understand it perfectly well which is why I said that this place is a microcosm of idiocracy when it comes to Deegan. Pretty ironic you’d talk about appealing to people with functioning brain cells when you’ve shut off critical thinking and have instead replaced it with your feelings about Deegan.  

You are just reaffirming my point that when it comes to Deegan, his haters are essentially letting their personal feelings, and to emphasize, opinions of Haiden, cloud any fair or charitable thoughts they might have on the matter. 

Lucas goes from last to 4th and we hear that he’s Herlings 2.0. Deegan does the same thing, passing the same riders, and he’s just passing “old men” in a field that is weak outside the top 3 or 4 riders. How’s that work?  

It seems to me that all you did was admit you’re biased. 

 

BossWool2800 wrote:

What was Deegan’s overall finish last weekend?

Wo Phat wrote:

with an asterisk or without?

lumpy790 wrote:

Staying close to the leaders lap times that have a completely open track while using whatever line he had to use in order to be making...

Staying close to the leaders lap times that have a completely open track while using whatever line he had to use in order to be making passes is a huge achievement.

Deegan already knows that he is going to end the outdoors in 3rd place but come playoff time and the points reshuffle he is still in contention for that championship.

lumpy790 wrote:

Staying close to the leaders lap times that have a completely open track while using whatever line he had to use in order to be making...

Staying close to the leaders lap times that have a completely open track while using whatever line he had to use in order to be making passes is a huge achievement.

Deegan already knows that he is going to end the outdoors in 3rd place but come playoff time and the points reshuffle he is still in contention for that championship.

TropicPilot wrote:

SMX is not a championship. It's a three-race gimmick in which the sole purpose is designed to keep more riders from competing in WSX. 

SonofThor32 wrote:

By the daily dose of Deegan threads on Vital, the kid is clearly living rent free in many grown mens heads.  Amazing to me nobody stops...

By the daily dose of Deegan threads on Vital, the kid is clearly living rent free in many grown mens heads.  Amazing to me nobody stops to ask themselves "do I look like an idiot creating another Deegan thread on Vital?" before they hit little red 'submit' button below.  There's a lot of ya!  🤡

The Moth wrote:

The Deegan haters are far worse than the so called “bed bugs”.  They look like idiots at this point. As far as Deegan, he’s doing awesome. He’s...

The Deegan haters are far worse than the so called “bed bugs”.  They look like idiots at this point. 

As far as Deegan, he’s doing awesome. He’s in his rookie season going up against Hunter Lawerence, who is riding the best he ever has, Jett, who even with an injured foot is one of the best riders in the world. He’s beating a 4x World Champion and the rest of the class in his rookie season. All of them are seasoned 450 riders. 

For context, Hunter didn’t win any overalls in his rookie season, was consistently well back from Sexton, and Jett was out injured. Sexton won one overall in his rookie season, but had only so-so results in the rest finishing 5th overall in a somewhat weak class. 

Tomac didn’t win a 450 title for 3 seasons, and Jett, well Jett is an exception who went 22-0 in his rookie season, but I don’t think any of them faced the competition Haiden has in their rookie seasons. Yet some are acting like Haiden will never win in the 450 class. If anything Deegan will get better, he’s just taking his lumps now while the keyboard heroes touch tips at the thought of him losing. 

 

TropicPilot wrote:

SMX is not a championship. It's a three-race gimmick in which the sole purpose is designed to keep more riders from competing in WSX.