Hurt feelings 250 class

1 day ago
This may be a far reach but after that sand show should some of these guys be rethinking just how good they are when a guy...

This may be a far reach but after that sand show should some of these guys be rethinking just how good they are when a guy is literally going 6 seconds a lap faster in the middle of the moto ? Is this training? Grit ? Or pure talent do these guys here not want it bad enough now cause the checks cash ? Im very curious and been a huge fan for awhile Sasha was a bit wild but unbelievably fast.

Why are you asking us? 

Cause this is a moto forum duh for other incredible fans 

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matze wrote:
I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterdaygoes 1-1-1 for the day1st moto Had many mistakes in...

I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterday

goes 1-1-1 for the day

1st moto Had many mistakes in the first corners, no one was able to capitalize. Over 30 seconds lead. 4 seconds a lap faster at times
2nd moto: Arguably a generational talent and current points leader Cole Davies gets the holeshot. Sacha closed the gap, made a huge mistake, closed the gap quickly again, passes him, opens up a over 15 seconds lead, crashed hard, injures himself, probably breaking something, rides with no goggles.. and STILL runs faster laps than none other than Cole and the rest of the field. Insane

Constantly riding over his head more than likely cost him a championship. 

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matze wrote:
I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterdaygoes 1-1-1 for the day1st moto Had many mistakes in...

I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterday

goes 1-1-1 for the day

1st moto Had many mistakes in the first corners, no one was able to capitalize. Over 30 seconds lead. 4 seconds a lap faster at times
2nd moto: Arguably a generational talent and current points leader Cole Davies gets the holeshot. Sacha closed the gap, made a huge mistake, closed the gap quickly again, passes him, opens up a over 15 seconds lead, crashed hard, injures himself, probably breaking something, rides with no goggles.. and STILL runs faster laps than none other than Cole and the rest of the field. Insane

Constantly riding over his head more than likely cost him a championship. 

I'd say he rode at 70% yesterday.

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matze wrote:
I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterdaygoes 1-1-1 for the day1st moto Had many mistakes in...

I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterday

goes 1-1-1 for the day

1st moto Had many mistakes in the first corners, no one was able to capitalize. Over 30 seconds lead. 4 seconds a lap faster at times
2nd moto: Arguably a generational talent and current points leader Cole Davies gets the holeshot. Sacha closed the gap, made a huge mistake, closed the gap quickly again, passes him, opens up a over 15 seconds lead, crashed hard, injures himself, probably breaking something, rides with no goggles.. and STILL runs faster laps than none other than Cole and the rest of the field. Insane

Constantly riding over his head more than likely cost him a championship. 

Mavetism wrote:

I'd say he rode at 70% yesterday.

dont ragebait this guy he sounds miserable enough lol

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matze wrote:
I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterdaygoes 1-1-1 for the day1st moto Had many mistakes in...

I dont think Sacha couldve have done any more to prove he was on another level yesterday

goes 1-1-1 for the day

1st moto Had many mistakes in the first corners, no one was able to capitalize. Over 30 seconds lead. 4 seconds a lap faster at times
2nd moto: Arguably a generational talent and current points leader Cole Davies gets the holeshot. Sacha closed the gap, made a huge mistake, closed the gap quickly again, passes him, opens up a over 15 seconds lead, crashed hard, injures himself, probably breaking something, rides with no goggles.. and STILL runs faster laps than none other than Cole and the rest of the field. Insane

Constantly riding over his head more than likely cost him a championship. 

Mavetism wrote:

I'd say he rode at 70% yesterday.

That’s even worse…😂

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1 day ago Edited Date/Time 1 day ago

For the people who keep saying Sacha is stupid for riding over his head and crashing. I don't think you are racers, and if you have raced, you probably rode around at the back of the pack and didn't actually race. 

Sacha was not pushing too hard when he crashed. Jo crashed, Jett crashed, Hunter crashed, Craig crashed, Romano crashed, RJ crashed, Davies crashed, and countless others. Deegan almost had a big crash. 

It's called racing. And often, trying to ride slower than your 'normal' pace is the surest way to crash.

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Constantly riding over his head more than likely cost him a championship. 

Mavetism wrote:

I'd say he rode at 70% yesterday.

That’s even worse…😂

Sacha and Lucas don't care about the world championships. They once said in an interview, it is all a learning experience for the real work in the USA.

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Why would our guys be great or even train in the sand? We have 1 sand race out of 31 rounds in a year. Becoming a sand rider in the US would be worse for their career. 

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Pembroke36 wrote:
Why would our guys be great or even train in the sand? We have 1 sand race out of 31 rounds in a year. Becoming a...

Why would our guys be great or even train in the sand? We have 1 sand race out of 31 rounds in a year. Becoming a sand rider in the US would be worse for their career. 

Very true.  But RJ did win WW! 

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Something definitely a miss with rider development in the states the last 5 or so years. Other than HD who most of you all seem to hate, what standout American riders have come through the ranks in the last 5 years? It’s the training facilities. Has to be. Racers need to race. 

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Something definitely a miss with rider development in the states the last 5 or so years. Other than HD who most of you all seem to...

Something definitely a miss with rider development in the states the last 5 or so years. Other than HD who most of you all seem to hate, what standout American riders have come through the ranks in the last 5 years? It’s the training facilities. Has to be. Racers need to race. 

We now have wannabe racers raised by self entitled pussies

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1 day ago
This may be a far reach but after that sand show should some of these guys be rethinking just how good they are when a guy...

This may be a far reach but after that sand show should some of these guys be rethinking just how good they are when a guy is literally going 6 seconds a lap faster in the middle of the moto ? Is this training? Grit ? Or pure talent do these guys here not want it bad enough now cause the checks cash ? Im very curious and been a huge fan for awhile Sasha was a bit wild but unbelievably fast.

Not just 6 seconds faster, but literally. Why do people feel the need to use literally? Can’t stand that word. 

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I think it is a combination of everything.

 

Sacha loves this type of track, like Southwick or Kegums (where he wins most of the time).

The pro motocross 250 class does not have the speed of MX2 in the sand, even when it is not deep. Hard pack is more of a match.

A lot of youngster this season, the vet of that class are having a not so great season (Levi for example).

That being said, Cole Davies is a rookie, and he resisted Sacha for quite a bit while putting a gap on the rest. It is VERY impressive to learn these type pf tracks and put 1-2 seconds a lap faster than anyone by the end of the day.

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RACING wrote:

Don't tell me you didn't know that 250 class is weaaaaaaaaak?

lumpy790 wrote:

It is never weak when it has results all over the place and consistency wins the championship and sometimes never even wins a single race.

That doesn't mean the talent is strong. What that means is they are all pretty equal in their talents. The American 250 class is weak at the moment. Who is the next big talent that's going to shine & transition to the 450s and be a front runner? I can't see who that's going to be. Be honest with yourself, are you going to be excited to see Shimoda, Kitchen, Davies & Jake Cannon spearheading 450 Pro motocross in 5-10 years? I predict the American 450 series is going to be heavily reliant on MXGP riders coming over to keep the series alive.
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1st moto Had many mistakes in the first corners, no one was able to capitalize. Over 30 seconds lead. 4 seconds a lap faster at times


Including head butting the front guard!!!

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He’s faster than any American 250 rider and it’s not even close and I bet his English spelling and grammar is better also.

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JohnnyD13 wrote:

He doesn’t race supercross so his technique is pure motocross. Let him do have a year of supercross and then see

we may never see him do a complete season of us motocross.

his riding style will keep him wadded up and injured from the supercross series.

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When was the last time a rookie had the red plate in the 250 class btw ?

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1 day ago
JohnnyD13 wrote:

He doesn’t race supercross so his technique is pure motocross. Let him do have a year of supercross and then see

JustMX wrote:

we may never see him do a complete season of us motocross.

his riding style will keep him wadded up and injured from the supercross series.

Gonna be fun watching him ripping around a SX tracks.🙀😆

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22 hours ago

I'd like to see Guillem come back and be the second 250 rider on Triumph next year rather then get bumped up to 450.

 

I think he’s cool the media Love him too.  I think he gets more minutes on post race interviews than anyone. Probably because he describes everything in easy to understand details.  I don’t know his weight but I think he’s too big for a 250f.  Matty B lcq the 250 race was great . Doesn’t look like you could go any faster , #55 didn’t make the show finished 5th.  Top 20 at sometime hv finished in the top 5 .  Tough class this yr. 

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I'd like to see Guillem come back and be the second 250 rider on Triumph next year rather then get bumped up to 450.

 

I think he’s cool the media Love him too.  I think he gets more minutes on post race interviews than anyone. Probably because he describes everything...

I think he’s cool the media Love him too.  I think he gets more minutes on post race interviews than anyone. Probably because he describes everything in easy to understand details.  I don’t know his weight but I think he’s too big for a 250f.  Matty B lcq the 250 race was great . Doesn’t look like you could go any faster , #55 didn’t make the show finished 5th.  Top 20 at sometime hv finished in the top 5 .  Tough class this yr. 

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Geeeezus....

Here, let me give you the literal explanation of what you saw from the young Belgian at The Wick:

(Now, this is from a book...aka, a Dictionary...so, go ahead with the usual Boomer stuff...I can take it 🤣)

Talent

American   

[tal-uhnt] / ˈtæl ənt /

noun

talent(s)
  1. a special natural ability or aptitude.

    a talent for drawing.

    Synonyms:

    genius, gift, capability

  2. a capacity for achievement or success; ability.

    young men of talent.

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He’s the fastest 250 rider in the world right now.He’s a sand specialist and most guys in the nationals aren’t.He was going way faster than he...
  1. He’s the fastest 250 rider in the world right now.
  2. He’s a sand specialist and most guys in the nationals aren’t.
  3. He was going way faster than he needed to and wadded himself.

Anyone, who’s got close enough speed, going up against Sasha over the course of a championship would back themselves that eventually he take himself out.

If anything, this just shows how much faster Deegan could’ve went last year if he wanted to, but instead he just cruised so he could stay healthy and win the championship.

I bet we would’ve saw some records broken for how many riders lapped/seconds ahead of 2nd place if Deegan pushed as hard as Sacha.

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I'd like to see Guillem come back and be the second 250 rider on Triumph next year rather then get bumped up to 450.

 

I think he’s cool the media Love him too.  I think he gets more minutes on post race interviews than anyone. Probably because he describes everything...

I think he’s cool the media Love him too.  I think he gets more minutes on post race interviews than anyone. Probably because he describes everything in easy to understand details.  I don’t know his weight but I think he’s too big for a 250f.  Matty B lcq the 250 race was great . Doesn’t look like you could go any faster , #55 didn’t make the show finished 5th.  Top 20 at sometime hv finished in the top 5 .  Tough class this yr. 

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Softer suspension with a looser grip on the bike seems to be working for the euros. 

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