Prediction Time: Will LaLa qualify at Southwick?

6/15/2026 1:01pm

Is she going for it? I missed the end of the broadcast. B practice, 250's going first, and she just needs one fast lap. I think it's possible. 

6/15/2026 1:11pm
Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception...

Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. 

I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception for USA based riders.

Yep...I'd forgotten it works like that. 

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Instead of downvoting me could someone tell me where she got her pro card from? I’m honestly curious.

From the MX Sports website regarding pro license eligibility: "In addition, AMA Pro Racing may issue a license to any rider who does not meet the above...

From the MX Sports website regarding pro license eligibility: 

"In addition, AMA Pro Racing may issue a license to any rider who does not meet the above criteria if it determines, in its sole discretion, that a rider has adequate competition experience consistent with that found at AMA Pro-Am sanctioned events. To be considered under this criterion, a rider must submit the following:

A Race Resume indicating all “A”, Expert and/or Pro-Am level race results within the past 18 months. Results for “B” or “C” classes will not be considered. A minimum of five race results is required, AND

At least one Letter of Reference (with contact information) from an AMA national or district race official, a recognized industry representative or a certified USMCA (United States Motorcycle Coaches Association) instructor who is personally familiar with the race qualifications of the applicant and who can attest to the skill requirements of the applicant for a professional motocross license."

Pretty sure WMX qualifies as "A" expert, and I'm sure she had no trouble getting the letter

Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception...

Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. 

I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception for USA based riders.

The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap times based off of events she’s competed in vs. other qualifying riders. I’d say LaLa has very clearly demonstrated that she is fast enough to be considered. 

I know you said you don’t agree with the exception for US based riders, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, there’s no rule against a US based rider applying for an exception. I can’t think of a more appropriate situation to grant the exception. 

 

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6/16/2026 3:37pm
From the MX Sports website regarding pro license eligibility: "In addition, AMA Pro Racing may issue a license to any rider who does not meet the above...

From the MX Sports website regarding pro license eligibility: 

"In addition, AMA Pro Racing may issue a license to any rider who does not meet the above criteria if it determines, in its sole discretion, that a rider has adequate competition experience consistent with that found at AMA Pro-Am sanctioned events. To be considered under this criterion, a rider must submit the following:

A Race Resume indicating all “A”, Expert and/or Pro-Am level race results within the past 18 months. Results for “B” or “C” classes will not be considered. A minimum of five race results is required, AND

At least one Letter of Reference (with contact information) from an AMA national or district race official, a recognized industry representative or a certified USMCA (United States Motorcycle Coaches Association) instructor who is personally familiar with the race qualifications of the applicant and who can attest to the skill requirements of the applicant for a professional motocross license."

Pretty sure WMX qualifies as "A" expert, and I'm sure she had no trouble getting the letter

Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception...

Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. 

I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception for USA based riders.

agn5008 wrote:
The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap...

The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap times based off of events she’s competed in vs. other qualifying riders. I’d say LaLa has very clearly demonstrated that she is fast enough to be considered. 

I know you said you don’t agree with the exception for US based riders, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, there’s no rule against a US based rider applying for an exception. I can’t think of a more appropriate situation to grant the exception. 

 

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board with an exception but from recent memory, people have used it to avoid obtaining points like most do. Don’t see how that’s okay. I get people don’t agree with me and will downvote me and that’s definitely okay but she and almost every example of an American based rider use it because they don’t feel like obtaining points the proper way.

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Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board...

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board with an exception but from recent memory, people have used it to avoid obtaining points like most do. Don’t see how that’s okay. I get people don’t agree with me and will downvote me and that’s definitely okay but she and almost every example of an American based rider use it because they don’t feel like obtaining points the proper way.

This, yep - you should have to earn it!

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6/16/2026 5:08pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2026 5:09pm
Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception...

Actually it doesn’t. You can race wmx professionally and still race B class. 

I guess they are gonna do the exception. I don’t agree with the exception for USA based riders.

agn5008 wrote:
The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap...

The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap times based off of events she’s competed in vs. other qualifying riders. I’d say LaLa has very clearly demonstrated that she is fast enough to be considered. 

I know you said you don’t agree with the exception for US based riders, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, there’s no rule against a US based rider applying for an exception. I can’t think of a more appropriate situation to grant the exception. 

 

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board...

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board with an exception but from recent memory, people have used it to avoid obtaining points like most do. Don’t see how that’s okay. I get people don’t agree with me and will downvote me and that’s definitely okay but she and almost every example of an American based rider use it because they don’t feel like obtaining points the proper way.

Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack top 40? Someone like Stew Baylor for example. Should he not be allowed to try and qualify just because he doesn’t focus on MX and probably doesn’t qualify via MX points? Thats just crazy. They are professional dirt bike riders. The exemption is literally made for people who race in other disciplines/countries who are excellent riders who want to try and qualify for a pro AMA race. If you’re fast enough, you deserve to be there. That’s the way they look at it, and that’s the way it should be. 

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6/16/2026 6:32pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2026 6:37pm
agn5008 wrote:
The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap...

The exceptions basically say that since she competes in a professional series (the women’s pro series), she can submit an exception and they will review lap times based off of events she’s competed in vs. other qualifying riders. I’d say LaLa has very clearly demonstrated that she is fast enough to be considered. 

I know you said you don’t agree with the exception for US based riders, and that’s fine. But at the end of the day, there’s no rule against a US based rider applying for an exception. I can’t think of a more appropriate situation to grant the exception. 

 

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board...

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board with an exception but from recent memory, people have used it to avoid obtaining points like most do. Don’t see how that’s okay. I get people don’t agree with me and will downvote me and that’s definitely okay but she and almost every example of an American based rider use it because they don’t feel like obtaining points the proper way.

agn5008 wrote:
Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack...

Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack top 40? Someone like Stew Baylor for example. Should he not be allowed to try and qualify just because he doesn’t focus on MX and probably doesn’t qualify via MX points? Thats just crazy. They are professional dirt bike riders. The exemption is literally made for people who race in other disciplines/countries who are excellent riders who want to try and qualify for a pro AMA race. If you’re fast enough, you deserve to be there. That’s the way they look at it, and that’s the way it should be. 

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough opportunities where the “they focus on other series” excuse is BS to me. I don’t care what the majority think, it’s a handout. Also other counties have nothing to do with this as they can use to pro in other counties rule. Deserve to be there?  Come on. You deserve what you earn. I can kinda see both sides(although I don’t agree with it)but you just have a dramatic response. 

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Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board...

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board with an exception but from recent memory, people have used it to avoid obtaining points like most do. Don’t see how that’s okay. I get people don’t agree with me and will downvote me and that’s definitely okay but she and almost every example of an American based rider use it because they don’t feel like obtaining points the proper way.

agn5008 wrote:
Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack...

Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack top 40? Someone like Stew Baylor for example. Should he not be allowed to try and qualify just because he doesn’t focus on MX and probably doesn’t qualify via MX points? Thats just crazy. They are professional dirt bike riders. The exemption is literally made for people who race in other disciplines/countries who are excellent riders who want to try and qualify for a pro AMA race. If you’re fast enough, you deserve to be there. That’s the way they look at it, and that’s the way it should be. 

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough...

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough opportunities where the “they focus on other series” excuse is BS to me. I don’t care what the majority think, it’s a handout. Also other counties have nothing to do with this as they can use to pro in other counties rule. Deserve to be there?  Come on. You deserve what you earn. I can kinda see both sides(although I don’t agree with it)but you just have a dramatic response. 

I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over and race a MX event. And on the flip side, the off-road guys absolutely love it when a moto guy comes and races an offroad event. It brings excitement to the event, and it would be foolish if the AMA would tell them they can’t cross over. The riders train extremely hard and dedicate their lives to racing dirt bikes. If they’re fast enough to qualify, then they absolutely 100% deserve to be out there. The whole point of these rules is to stop a beginner rider from entering. The AMA will only grant exemptions to riders who have proven they can compete for the top 40.

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6/16/2026 7:20pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2026 7:24pm
agn5008 wrote:
Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack...

Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack top 40? Someone like Stew Baylor for example. Should he not be allowed to try and qualify just because he doesn’t focus on MX and probably doesn’t qualify via MX points? Thats just crazy. They are professional dirt bike riders. The exemption is literally made for people who race in other disciplines/countries who are excellent riders who want to try and qualify for a pro AMA race. If you’re fast enough, you deserve to be there. That’s the way they look at it, and that’s the way it should be. 

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough...

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough opportunities where the “they focus on other series” excuse is BS to me. I don’t care what the majority think, it’s a handout. Also other counties have nothing to do with this as they can use to pro in other counties rule. Deserve to be there?  Come on. You deserve what you earn. I can kinda see both sides(although I don’t agree with it)but you just have a dramatic response. 

agn5008 wrote:
I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over...

I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over and race a MX event. And on the flip side, the off-road guys absolutely love it when a moto guy comes and races an offroad event. It brings excitement to the event, and it would be foolish if the AMA would tell them they can’t cross over. The riders train extremely hard and dedicate their lives to racing dirt bikes. If they’re fast enough to qualify, then they absolutely 100% deserve to be out there. The whole point of these rules is to stop a beginner rider from entering. The AMA will only grant exemptions to riders who have proven they can compete for the top 40.

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes. As I mentioned I can kinda see the other side in some situations but Lala isn’t one of them. She is full moto. 

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If she does qualify can we get a hot local guy to hold the 30 second board? Obviously topless, in tight leather short shorts. Maybe he can have a monster energy logo drawn on his 6-pack with some Sharpies. Seems fair.

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I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough...

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough opportunities where the “they focus on other series” excuse is BS to me. I don’t care what the majority think, it’s a handout. Also other counties have nothing to do with this as they can use to pro in other counties rule. Deserve to be there?  Come on. You deserve what you earn. I can kinda see both sides(although I don’t agree with it)but you just have a dramatic response. 

agn5008 wrote:
I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over...

I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over and race a MX event. And on the flip side, the off-road guys absolutely love it when a moto guy comes and races an offroad event. It brings excitement to the event, and it would be foolish if the AMA would tell them they can’t cross over. The riders train extremely hard and dedicate their lives to racing dirt bikes. If they’re fast enough to qualify, then they absolutely 100% deserve to be out there. The whole point of these rules is to stop a beginner rider from entering. The AMA will only grant exemptions to riders who have proven they can compete for the top 40.

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes...

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes. As I mentioned I can kinda see the other side in some situations but Lala isn’t one of them. She is full moto. 

Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. 

Lachlan is in, quite literally, the same position: leading her professional championship (and the reigning champion, for that matter,) and has only avoided earning pro license points due to professional obligations thereto. According to the AMA rules, she is just as entitled to an exception as the Coenens are. 

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agn5008 wrote:
I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over...

I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over and race a MX event. And on the flip side, the off-road guys absolutely love it when a moto guy comes and races an offroad event. It brings excitement to the event, and it would be foolish if the AMA would tell them they can’t cross over. The riders train extremely hard and dedicate their lives to racing dirt bikes. If they’re fast enough to qualify, then they absolutely 100% deserve to be out there. The whole point of these rules is to stop a beginner rider from entering. The AMA will only grant exemptions to riders who have proven they can compete for the top 40.

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes...

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes. As I mentioned I can kinda see the other side in some situations but Lala isn’t one of them. She is full moto. 

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Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. Lachlan is in, quite literally...

Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. 

Lachlan is in, quite literally, the same position: leading her professional championship (and the reigning champion, for that matter,) and has only avoided earning pro license points due to professional obligations thereto. According to the AMA rules, she is just as entitled to an exception as the Coenens are. 

Well said. Imagine the AMA telling a guy like Kaliub Russell he has to go the amateur route, gain 60 pro-am points or do the whole Loretta Lynn’s Amateur National route in order to line up for a motocross race 😂. 

1 of 2 things would happen. We’d have extremely fast and proven professional riders taking up half the spots at Loretta’s (which would piss a lot of people off) or they wouldn’t race any national races, which would again upset a lot of fans. 

The process they have now works as well as it possibly can. 

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6/17/2026 10:16am

She’ll be back n the first qualifier session, so if she catches a tow with a fast local on the smooth track she could get 32-35.  If she has to go to the lcq, no chance. 

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Respect to Dorene. 

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Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board...

Why not obtain the pro points like 95% of the riders? Now if they had some reason they couldn’t then maybe I could get on board with an exception but from recent memory, people have used it to avoid obtaining points like most do. Don’t see how that’s okay. I get people don’t agree with me and will downvote me and that’s definitely okay but she and almost every example of an American based rider use it because they don’t feel like obtaining points the proper way.

agn5008 wrote:
Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack...

Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack top 40? Someone like Stew Baylor for example. Should he not be allowed to try and qualify just because he doesn’t focus on MX and probably doesn’t qualify via MX points? Thats just crazy. They are professional dirt bike riders. The exemption is literally made for people who race in other disciplines/countries who are excellent riders who want to try and qualify for a pro AMA race. If you’re fast enough, you deserve to be there. That’s the way they look at it, and that’s the way it should be. 

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough...

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough opportunities where the “they focus on other series” excuse is BS to me. I don’t care what the majority think, it’s a handout. Also other counties have nothing to do with this as they can use to pro in other counties rule. Deserve to be there?  Come on. You deserve what you earn. I can kinda see both sides(although I don’t agree with it)but you just have a dramatic response. 

Wait until you find out that about half of the "pro card" holders NEVER got the actual amount of pro points listed on the mx sports website to obtain a pro license. 

Do 5 pro ams get half the points send the $ in.

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agn5008 wrote:
I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over...

I don’t think my response is the dramatic one. Everyone gets excited when guys like Dante Olivera, Mason Simmons, Kaliub Russell, Ricky Russell, etc cross over and race a MX event. And on the flip side, the off-road guys absolutely love it when a moto guy comes and races an offroad event. It brings excitement to the event, and it would be foolish if the AMA would tell them they can’t cross over. The riders train extremely hard and dedicate their lives to racing dirt bikes. If they’re fast enough to qualify, then they absolutely 100% deserve to be out there. The whole point of these rules is to stop a beginner rider from entering. The AMA will only grant exemptions to riders who have proven they can compete for the top 40.

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes...

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes. As I mentioned I can kinda see the other side in some situations but Lala isn’t one of them. She is full moto. 

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Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. Lachlan is in, quite literally...

Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. 

Lachlan is in, quite literally, the same position: leading her professional championship (and the reigning champion, for that matter,) and has only avoided earning pro license points due to professional obligations thereto. According to the AMA rules, she is just as entitled to an exception as the Coenens are. 

They have a pro license form a different federation. Literally completely different situation not only in rule but just common sense. If you think leading mxgp series is the same as leading wmx I got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. I’m not gonna spam up this thread any longer but zero chance you or agn are gonna change my mind. Why have the pro points at all? F it just do exceptions only. Why have qualifiers for Loretta’s? F it I’m fast 40 in my class just let me in. Why even use qualifying times for a race just put who you think “deserves” it. I’m being dramatic but my point is at some stage of racing it’s a process you should complete. Agn keeps trying to bring up off road guys. They have 20 plus races you earn points at and you could get your points in 2 or 3 races if you do well. No excuses to me. 

Also, not sure how you consider the wmx a pro series when they are allowed to race B class. 

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agn5008 wrote:
Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack...

Or is it because they have another series they have to focus on? What about a lifelong GNCC pro who is fast enough to possibly crack top 40? Someone like Stew Baylor for example. Should he not be allowed to try and qualify just because he doesn’t focus on MX and probably doesn’t qualify via MX points? Thats just crazy. They are professional dirt bike riders. The exemption is literally made for people who race in other disciplines/countries who are excellent riders who want to try and qualify for a pro AMA race. If you’re fast enough, you deserve to be there. That’s the way they look at it, and that’s the way it should be. 

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough...

I don’t agree. I don’t believe in handouts. Not allowed? That’s a joke. Everyone should be allowed if they earn the license points. They have enough opportunities where the “they focus on other series” excuse is BS to me. I don’t care what the majority think, it’s a handout. Also other counties have nothing to do with this as they can use to pro in other counties rule. Deserve to be there?  Come on. You deserve what you earn. I can kinda see both sides(although I don’t agree with it)but you just have a dramatic response. 

Wait until you find out that about half of the "pro card" holders NEVER got the actual amount of pro points listed on the mx sports...

Wait until you find out that about half of the "pro card" holders NEVER got the actual amount of pro points listed on the mx sports website to obtain a pro license. 

Do 5 pro ams get half the points send the $ in.

Doesn’t mean I agree with it. I know many pros and all of them had to earn their pro points. 

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agn5008 wrote:
Well said. Imagine the AMA telling a guy like Kaliub Russell he has to go the amateur route, gain 60 pro-am points or do the whole...

Well said. Imagine the AMA telling a guy like Kaliub Russell he has to go the amateur route, gain 60 pro-am points or do the whole Loretta Lynn’s Amateur National route in order to line up for a motocross race 😂. 

1 of 2 things would happen. We’d have extremely fast and proven professional riders taking up half the spots at Loretta’s (which would piss a lot of people off) or they wouldn’t race any national races, which would again upset a lot of fans. 

The process they have now works as well as it possibly can. 

The difference is that Kaliub Russell is competing in a top tier series, not one specifically created to accommodate potentially slower riders.  Regarding Turner - she is very fast.  I have no doubt that on the right day and the right track, she could qualify for a pro-national.  That being said, I don't think it will happen at Southwick.  And, as has already been posted, if she ends up in the LCQ she will have almost no chance of qualifying.  Personally, I think it would be very cool if she qualified, but two 30+ minute motos in one day, especially on a track as brutal as Southwick, is far, far more demanding than shorter motos on different days. In addition, NESC has a history of having some ridiculously fast local riders who don't race any other national show up for Southwick.   I give her a 10% chance of qualifying and a 5% chance of beating anyone who doesn't DNF.  

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Respect to Dorene. 

Still core moto.

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I don't know a whole lot about her, is she especially good in sand? If not, I doubt she makes it. Yes, she'll be in B, but so will all the Southwick locals. That'll be hard to overcome.

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6/17/2026 12:47pm
agn5008 wrote:
Well said. Imagine the AMA telling a guy like Kaliub Russell he has to go the amateur route, gain 60 pro-am points or do the whole...

Well said. Imagine the AMA telling a guy like Kaliub Russell he has to go the amateur route, gain 60 pro-am points or do the whole Loretta Lynn’s Amateur National route in order to line up for a motocross race 😂. 

1 of 2 things would happen. We’d have extremely fast and proven professional riders taking up half the spots at Loretta’s (which would piss a lot of people off) or they wouldn’t race any national races, which would again upset a lot of fans. 

The process they have now works as well as it possibly can. 

The difference is that Kaliub Russell is competing in a top tier series, not one specifically created to accommodate potentially slower riders.  Regarding Turner - she...

The difference is that Kaliub Russell is competing in a top tier series, not one specifically created to accommodate potentially slower riders.  Regarding Turner - she is very fast.  I have no doubt that on the right day and the right track, she could qualify for a pro-national.  That being said, I don't think it will happen at Southwick.  And, as has already been posted, if she ends up in the LCQ she will have almost no chance of qualifying.  Personally, I think it would be very cool if she qualified, but two 30+ minute motos in one day, especially on a track as brutal as Southwick, is far, far more demanding than shorter motos on different days. In addition, NESC has a history of having some ridiculously fast local riders who don't race any other national show up for Southwick.   I give her a 10% chance of qualifying and a 5% chance of beating anyone who doesn't DNF.  

I agree. The guy I was responding to said no one from the USA should get an exemption, even guys who race other disciplines including the GNCC series. 

LaLa has an uphill battle to qualify at southwick for sure. 

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6/17/2026 2:18pm
Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes...

Okay captain. We can agree to disagree. I am not sure we agree on what deserves means so anything after that is in two different universes. As I mentioned I can kinda see the other side in some situations but Lala isn’t one of them. She is full moto. 

Falcon wrote:
Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. Lachlan is in, quite literally...

Sascha and Lucas Coenen did not have AMA license points, either. Yet, no one would argue that they aren't well-qualified to race. 

Lachlan is in, quite literally, the same position: leading her professional championship (and the reigning champion, for that matter,) and has only avoided earning pro license points due to professional obligations thereto. According to the AMA rules, she is just as entitled to an exception as the Coenens are. 

They have a pro license form a different federation. Literally completely different situation not only in rule but just common sense. If you think leading mxgp...

They have a pro license form a different federation. Literally completely different situation not only in rule but just common sense. If you think leading mxgp series is the same as leading wmx I got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. I’m not gonna spam up this thread any longer but zero chance you or agn are gonna change my mind. Why have the pro points at all? F it just do exceptions only. Why have qualifiers for Loretta’s? F it I’m fast 40 in my class just let me in. Why even use qualifying times for a race just put who you think “deserves” it. I’m being dramatic but my point is at some stage of racing it’s a process you should complete. Agn keeps trying to bring up off road guys. They have 20 plus races you earn points at and you could get your points in 2 or 3 races if you do well. No excuses to me. 

Also, not sure how you consider the wmx a pro series when they are allowed to race B class. 

Well, as you said I guess we're going to agree to disagree. Cheers! 

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