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Watching Lucas’s bike coming into corners, his rear wheel never seemed to be tracking correctly. Rebound appeared to be off.
Very understandable with the lack of time they were presented with.
Imagine once they get a bike set up for him.
I do love the fact that he goes out and races, hauls the mail and is so thankful afterwards. Nothing about the bike set up, getting acclimated or any other excuse.
He was happy and acknowledged that he lost to the best rider in the world, thanks everyone for making this possible and thats it.
Love that stuff.
Lucas is definitely a superstar for the motocross world.
Those guys came over here, kicked ass and took names with very little in the way of preparation. Those bikes must have been in the ballpark at best and not even close to their normal comfort and confidence level. Probably sharing very few components and feedback levels. Un freakinbeleivable. And meanwhile Sexton and Prado are bitching up a storm.
Ian Harrison has said Prado has hardly asked for a change since supercross prep on the Ktm…
According to Ian Harrison there’s very little difference in the bikes apart from fuel spec and noise regs.
Nonetheless the impressive part is them flying directly from Europe, riding a track they’ve never ridden, different race day format, and getting great results.
Not going to read too much into a one off result, let’s see how Southwick and Ironman go, but they’ve certainly shown the potential to be front runners. This is as much a commentary on the US 250 class as it is on Sacha’s abilities but I think he would be the title favourite if he moved here right now.
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Lucas runs a works frame in Europe & ran a production frame here , maybe Ian doesn’t know that ? Definitely figured he’d know something like that.
I’m sure you know more than Ian does, right?
Pretty sure that said on the broadcast that he prefers the production frame over the works frame so that’s what he runs in MXGP.
I’m not getting into specifics because I don’t know, but it’s true that for many years the KTM GP bikes are basically production prototypes for the upcoming year model.
Also the frame is about the only major part that AMA production bikes have any significant restrictions over what the GP bikes are permitted.
I know there can be differences but the days of radical works bikes in MXGP are long gone.
Can you prove NicNak wrong?
He may not waste his time, but he’s right…. It was said on the broadcast that he runs the stock frame, which he prefers over the works option.
edit- Unless that was Sasha that said it…
Sasha runs production frame in MX2. Lucas does not. Heard it on one of the preview Friday shows
Sacha runs a production frame and Lucas runs a works frame.
The guys on the MXGP circuit have their bikes dialed in far better than the guys in the states do. The GP guys continue to perfect their settings all year long where the guys in the states do out door testing just before the nationals. Not an excuse just a fact. In saying that anyone that think that the GP guys are not a threat to win in the USA are completely disconnected from reality. They are FAST!
From memory, frame, swingarm, cases, cylinder, head, valve angles. Suspension in 250 class has restrictions the 450 class doesn't have too. Possibly transmission gears as well.
Yes, but Ian also said there is very little difference between Lucas's GP bike and his AMA bike. Lucas proceeded to say his GP bike is way different.
What I'm getting at is don't take everything the managers or team members say as gospel.
And when US based riders were untouchable, the reason carted out was because they raced SX. Now it's an excuse!
Of course they are fast. They race motocross from March or April until September or October, year in and year out.
They do not race supercross or super-motocross, so their set-up and prep is always for the high speed of outdoors.
Finally, as the guy above says, SX has changed from being the reason why US racers are faster than Euros. Now, it is the reason we are slower.
I absolutely believe the focus on SX in the US has put the SMX riders at a deficit to the MXGP riders for motocross. MXGP riders race motocross all year. Their training and bike setup are focused solely on MX. They should be better outdoors. Unless we build an outdoor SX track complete with whoops…
Put another way, would Jeffrey Herlings be better prepared for MXGP if he spent Oct through April/May only riding supercross? Of course not.
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They said it on air.
Lucas uses the prototype frame, Sasha prefers the production frame.
Other KTM MXGP guys prefer the production frame with special motor mounts as well, but you knew that already…
Different bikes, different track, different country - those brothers could probably win on Kawasakis!!
Not an excuse just in the USA we have different priorities. Back when SX was in its beginning the bikes were way less technical and the set ups were not that much different. Now days the bikes use different engine mapping , the suspension is completely different. Yes SX back then made riders better in MX, all the riders both in the USA and in the GPs use those techniques discovered in SX. In the USA SX is the main series and priority for riders and teams. The MXGP guys are fast no doubt about it. They get to work on bike set up for MX all year long and if you watch them ride you can see how well the bikes work and how good they are.
Would a works frame mean customized for Lucas’s needs? Or would it be made from more premium materials, higher grade steel? Is it multiple frames for different tracks?
If it’s customized to each rider why would Sasha prefer the standard?
Or is more like bolting a set of 52mm factory WP forks on and realising they are so damn rigid and all the customizing can’t bring back that same flex feel? ALA reeds 2004 v 2005 yz250?
On that note I was reading the racerX history of twotwo and reed mentioned he got ‘factory clamps’ it helped a lot. What could factory clamps do that the million aftermarket clamp manufacturers could not do?
It’s not the bike. They will be fast on anything
He legitimately looks like the only person in the world that could possibly beat jett and even battle him for a title. Going to be awesome next year, it could be like chase vs eli only even faster and smoother. Plus hes only 19! Hunter, a healthy eli, sexton on a ktm/honda, and probably deegs and prado can all most likely beat jett for a moto or two, but lucas really looked like hes at that next 1% where jett lives and could battle him. Everybody sees that next tier that jett is at that is just a bit higher than everyone else, lucas genuinely looks like the only other person thats up there with him in the world. Going to be a fun time next year.
Deegan will beat Jett this summer yet.
Not sure if he wins an overall but he will win a couple motos.
Hunter will also beat his brother again.
We can bet on this if you’d like.
Yeah it was impressive. Flies out from Latvia, racing a track he's never seen before, on a somewhat unfamiliar bike, and casually goes 2-2 to Jett and finishes closer to Jett both motos than Deegan has done in six attempts so far.
People said that about Sexton
Yeah, he's very mature for his age.
I appreciated Lucas reaction in Australia, when he lost title to Febvre. Class act.
Unlike Kay de Wolf, who tried to kill Langenfelder in title fight.
I expected the two riders leading the MX1 & MX2 GP points leads to be fast. It's great they seem to be nice guys happy and cheerful. Not entitled little pricks worried about social media likes and behaving like a ghetto rap wannabe.
We are lucky they are moving to America.
Yep.. forget the Hayden degan Jet Lawrence rivalry.. The rivalry in the future will be Lucas Cohen and Jet Lawrence!
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