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6/13/2026 4:09pm
Kitchen is really finding his groove in the 250 class. In the years to come he’s going to be a force to be reckon with in...

Kitchen is really finding his groove in the 250 class. In the years to come he’s going to be a force to be reckon with in the class. 

He's 25. I hope he doesn't spend years more in the class. I'd like to see him move up to a 450 next summer.  But that's just me and it obviously depends on what he can get for a ride

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6/13/2026 4:09pm

I wonder how many here turned their TV off because they thought it was over 😂

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6/13/2026 4:10pm

wait how long are those wmx motos in the US?? only 9 minutes on the clock already?

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6/13/2026 4:11pm

All of these other girls aren't really even close to Turner.

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6/13/2026 4:12pm
rsd47 wrote:

I can't believe Jo is only 6 points down 

Woah, seriously?! That just blew my mind lol. Damn. If he can get rolling like he did last summer he might make this series boring. Levi is riding way better than last year though. Cant see anyone running away with this. Class is very exciting with all the parity this year

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6/13/2026 4:12pm
matze wrote:

wait how long are those wmx motos in the US?? only 9 minutes on the clock already?

Only 12+2 sadly

6/13/2026 4:12pm
TheMilkman wrote:
Today made his 27th race in 450 class counting only outdoor events. 46th if you count SX and SMX. Just pointing out that he isn’t a...

Today made his 27th race in 450 class counting only outdoor events. 46th if you count SX and SMX. Just pointing out that he isn’t a rookie. 

StankBooty wrote:
And given that he's got 95 races on the 250, he's no-doubt been far more seen on the 250s all these years since 2018.  It's cool...

And given that he's got 95 races on the 250, he's no-doubt been far more seen on the 250s all these years since 2018.  It's cool to see him improving, especially with all the switching it up over these years.

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Who are we talking about?

Marchbanks. StankBooty was complimenting him on adapting so soon. I just pointed out he wasn’t even close to being a 450 rookie.

For the record I think G is doing great. He just shouldn’t be viewed as a rookie in the class when he has lined up against these guys almost 50 times. 

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Levi - seems to be the fastest of a really inconsistent class.. 

Seth - Seth gonna seth... still got the red plate.. barely... 

Jo - slow starter is his MO.... 

Juju - great rebound season, still in the hunt.. 

Davies - probably should be the man, but it's taking some time... 

Sasha - odds on fav to win the 250 nats in 2027... 

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Jett - that dood is just an alien... the only person that can beat Jett, is jett... 

Hunter- has come suchhh a long ways... absolutely punching above his weight... 

Lucas - just damnnnn... younger than cringe lord, first national, and crushes it... might be the only person on the planet that can actually give Jett a run for his money.... 

Marchbanks- wayyyy over delivering on an "unridable" kawi... 

George - so.. supposedly he daf about winning outdoors, only wants the sx title... if that is the case,  not good for ktm or the race fans as he has the talent to give Jett a good run for the money... 

Cringe lord - finishes over 30 seconds back when he can't cut track... he fd up... if he truly wants to win.. he needs to be on a honda or ktm, the two teams who's start packages are dialed... at this point he's looking at a bam bam style 450 career, no matter what he does or says... he's now well over a full moto in points back, after only 3 races... that has to well below his, and his fans, expectation... 

Rj, ap, Dylan, webb - gonna be a longggg summer

 

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6/13/2026 4:13pm
Mavetism wrote:

I wonder how many here turned their TV off because they thought it was over 😂

I turned mine off and I knew it wasn’t over. 

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6/13/2026 4:13pm
ky_savage wrote:

All of these other girls aren't really even close to Turner.

Right. There's a giant gap in the talent from the top couple girls

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6/13/2026 4:19pm
gt80rider wrote:
Levi - seems to be the fastest of a really inconsistent class.. Seth - Seth gonna seth... still got the red plate.. barely... Jo - slow starter is...

Levi - seems to be the fastest of a really inconsistent class.. 

Seth - Seth gonna seth... still got the red plate.. barely... 

Jo - slow starter is his MO.... 

Juju - great rebound season, still in the hunt.. 

Davies - probably should be the man, but it's taking some time... 

Sasha - odds on fav to win the 250 nats in 2027... 

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Jett - that dood is just an alien... the only person that can beat Jett, is jett... 

Hunter- has come suchhh a long ways... absolutely punching above his weight... 

Lucas - just damnnnn... younger than cringe lord, first national, and crushes it... might be the only person on the planet that can actually give Jett a run for his money.... 

Marchbanks- wayyyy over delivering on an "unridable" kawi... 

George - so.. supposedly he daf about winning outdoors, only wants the sx title... if that is the case,  not good for ktm or the race fans as he has the talent to give Jett a good run for the money... 

Cringe lord - finishes over 30 seconds back when he can't cut track... he fd up... if he truly wants to win.. he needs to be on a honda or ktm, the two teams who's start packages are dialed... at this point he's looking at a bam bam style 450 career, no matter what he does or says... he's now well over a full moto in points back, after only 3 races... that has to well below his, and his fans, expectation... 

Rj, ap, Dylan, webb - gonna be a longggg summer

 

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6/13/2026 4:21pm

Always thought Jessica Patterson looked like she'd struggle to make the C class at Loretta's. These new chicks look like they'd have a chance in the men's 250 lcq outdoors. Pretty impressive. 

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6/13/2026 4:24pm

yaay Nielson got 3rd on that last lap. My girl

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6/13/2026 4:24pm

I cant put my finger of who he reminds me with his technique and stature. Pourcel? Bagget?

rsd47 wrote:

He reminds me a bit of Forkner pre-injuries

Ok now I'm going to have to go watch some old races lol

Pourcel was a bit lanky. 

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6/13/2026 4:25pm
150ripper wrote:
Always thought Jessica Patterson looked like she'd struggle to make the C class at Loretta's. These new chicks look like they'd have a chance in the...

Always thought Jessica Patterson looked like she'd struggle to make the C class at Loretta's. These new chicks look like they'd have a chance in the men's 250 lcq outdoors. Pretty impressive. 

She looked like she could kick my ass on or off the bike.🙃

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6/13/2026 4:26pm
gt80rider wrote:
Levi - seems to be the fastest of a really inconsistent class.. Seth - Seth gonna seth... still got the red plate.. barely... Jo - slow starter is...

Levi - seems to be the fastest of a really inconsistent class.. 

Seth - Seth gonna seth... still got the red plate.. barely... 

Jo - slow starter is his MO.... 

Juju - great rebound season, still in the hunt.. 

Davies - probably should be the man, but it's taking some time... 

Sasha - odds on fav to win the 250 nats in 2027... 

_____________

Jett - that dood is just an alien... the only person that can beat Jett, is jett... 

Hunter- has come suchhh a long ways... absolutely punching above his weight... 

Lucas - just damnnnn... younger than cringe lord, first national, and crushes it... might be the only person on the planet that can actually give Jett a run for his money.... 

Marchbanks- wayyyy over delivering on an "unridable" kawi... 

George - so.. supposedly he daf about winning outdoors, only wants the sx title... if that is the case,  not good for ktm or the race fans as he has the talent to give Jett a good run for the money... 

Cringe lord - finishes over 30 seconds back when he can't cut track... he fd up... if he truly wants to win.. he needs to be on a honda or ktm, the two teams who's start packages are dialed... at this point he's looking at a bam bam style 450 career, no matter what he does or says... he's now well over a full moto in points back, after only 3 races... that has to well below his, and his fans, expectation... 

Rj, ap, Dylan, webb - gonna be a longggg summer

 

Your Deegan take is so far off it’s hilarious 😂😂

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6/13/2026 4:28pm
matze wrote:

yaay Nielson got 3rd on that last lap. My girl

"my girl" you dreamin 🤣🤣

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6/13/2026 4:30pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Can't wait to see the coenens at Southwick. I'm still not betting against Jett until I see someone beat him. But I'd say Lucas in the...

Can't wait to see the coenens at Southwick. I'm still not betting against Jett until I see someone beat him. But I'd say Lucas in the sand is probably the best shot anyone has 

You missed Pala?😉

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6/13/2026 4:38pm

Would love to see some of those WMX girls ride the MXGP WMX series... other tracks, longer moto's it would be interesting for the series!

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6/13/2026 4:46pm
MXMattii wrote:

Would love to see some of those WMX girls ride the MXGP WMX series... other tracks, longer moto's it would be interesting for the series!

Lotte just mentioned she might be banged up but she also wanted to use that opportunity to maybe reach out to teams for possibly next year. I don't think they make any money at all in MXGP Wmx, the people in charge also scheduling WMX races in australia for example does not help the situation.

 

6/13/2026 4:53pm

Sasha has a physique and riding style reminiscent of Ricky Carmichael in his 125 days.

Nah I,d say Alex puzar with modern riding techniques. But he’s pretty unique , killer style. 

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6/13/2026 5:05pm
MXMattii wrote:

Would love to see some of those WMX girls ride the MXGP WMX series... other tracks, longer moto's it would be interesting for the series!

Mavetism wrote:
Lotte just mentioned she might be banged up but she also wanted to use that opportunity to maybe reach out to teams for possibly next year...

Lotte just mentioned she might be banged up but she also wanted to use that opportunity to maybe reach out to teams for possibly next year. I don't think they make any money at all in MXGP Wmx, the people in charge also scheduling WMX races in australia for example does not help the situation.

 

She makes a few bucks with Monster and Yamaha but it won't be much. If both series could make a schedule that don't collide that those girls can race both series earning money in both series.

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6/13/2026 5:13pm

Coenens, Lawrences, Jo, Romano, Kitchen podium interviews just serve as a good reminder for how unlikeable Deegan is as a person. 

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6/13/2026 5:22pm
RangerLee wrote:
As this is the outdoors, the commentary about the Coenen's makes sense. Let's not forget the X factor for both of them though. When they come...

As this is the outdoors, the commentary about the Coenen's makes sense. Let's not forget the X factor for both of them though. When they come here they will be expected to race SX, how much of that have they been practicing?

I was curious about this, too. Have they even been on a full blown sx track yet with "real" sx whoops? I'd be more nervous about Lucas going straight to 450 SX if we weren't currently seeing a rider hsve success with it. When you google his height its 5'8." He's gotta be taller than that, no? Looks like a big kid on the bike 

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6/13/2026 5:37pm
RangerLee wrote:
As this is the outdoors, the commentary about the Coenen's makes sense. Let's not forget the X factor for both of them though. When they come...

As this is the outdoors, the commentary about the Coenen's makes sense. Let's not forget the X factor for both of them though. When they come here they will be expected to race SX, how much of that have they been practicing?

I was curious about this, too. Have they even been on a full blown sx track yet with "real" sx whoops? I'd be more nervous about...

I was curious about this, too. Have they even been on a full blown sx track yet with "real" sx whoops? I'd be more nervous about Lucas going straight to 450 SX if we weren't currently seeing a rider hsve success with it. When you google his height its 5'8." He's gotta be taller than that, no? Looks like a big kid on the bike 

He's big, slightly taller than De Wolf from what I remember when they stood next to each other, Kay De Wolf is around 183cm ( which should be around 6 foot). I've seen twins that don't look like each other, but I've never seen twins with a difference in height like that, Sacha is as tall as JT

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6/13/2026 5:42pm

Coenens, Lawrences, Jo, Romano, Kitchen podium interviews just serve as a good reminder for how unlikeable Deegan is as a person. 

Then why do you all talk more about Deegan than all the others combined? There are currently 5 threads on the first page about Deegan.



 

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Deegan riding over his head today. Hunter too at times. As would anybody trying to overtake Jet. It's one thing to match his lap times but quite another to actually pass him and make it stick. Have not seen that yet. I doubt Hunter will be the guy. Deegan? Maybe but not this year. His starts will have to improve a fuckbunch. 

250 class is fun. Just a matter of time and Davies will be in the conversation. Romano? Cool story and he does well but it kind of looks like he lacks stamina. 

I also enjoyed the commentary blackouts. I don't have a big turd in my pocket for James or Ricky like some do but the non stop jaw jacking gets tiresome. 

I went to work at 5:00 this morning to make sure I got home in time. It was well worth it. 

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6/13/2026 6:58pm
Mavetism wrote:
No doubt he will win races, but if he wants championships team Deegan should consider moving to MXGP, specially with the Coenens moving to the US...

No doubt he will win races, but if he wants championships team Deegan should consider moving to MXGP, specially with the Coenens moving to the US aswell.

I’m sure I’ll get downvoted (it’s funny stuff), but 3 races into Haiden’s rookie 450 season and you are projecting Haiden’s career?  How many 450 titles does Hunter have now three seasons in?  Should he go to MXGP?

Did other greats like Stewart, Reed, Eli or Chase win premier titles in their rookie season outdoors? What about their second season?  

This place is full of stupid that far, far exceeds Haiden’s immaturity. It’s embarrassing. 

 

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RangerLee wrote:
As this is the outdoors, the commentary about the Coenen's makes sense. Let's not forget the X factor for both of them though. When they come...

As this is the outdoors, the commentary about the Coenen's makes sense. Let's not forget the X factor for both of them though. When they come here they will be expected to race SX, how much of that have they been practicing?

I was curious about this, too. Have they even been on a full blown sx track yet with "real" sx whoops? I'd be more nervous about...

I was curious about this, too. Have they even been on a full blown sx track yet with "real" sx whoops? I'd be more nervous about Lucas going straight to 450 SX if we weren't currently seeing a rider hsve success with it. When you google his height its 5'8." He's gotta be taller than that, no? Looks like a big kid on the bike 

Mavetism wrote:
He's big, slightly taller than De Wolf from what I remember when they stood next to each other, Kay De Wolf is around 183cm ( which...

He's big, slightly taller than De Wolf from what I remember when they stood next to each other, Kay De Wolf is around 183cm ( which should be around 6 foot). I've seen twins that don't look like each other, but I've never seen twins with a difference in height like that, Sacha is as tall as JT

My boys look like Danny Devito and Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Twins. They are fraternal, not identical twins. 

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