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Chase was on the gate last night?
So RJ didn’t win in spite of the bike and mgmt? RV and JS didn’t win despite of the bike and mgmt? So it’s impossible for Chase, Marchbanks, Febvre, or anyone to win or compete on it? Yeah, okay.
At what age do you think they start riding legit supercross tracks?
Ducati is owned by Audi, they seem to have plenty of money to road race successfully as well. They HATE to lose. It is a pretty safe assumption, perhaps not accurate, but safe.
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They did. They also got involved with Ducati as I recall. I don't know if they owned them outright or if they just invested in the company though
My guy, you've got all the pieces but you aren't putting it together. RJ, RV, RC, JS7... they aren't relevant to this conversation. This conversation is about the current Kawasaki. Bringing up Febvre is a good point, though! How can he win a world championship in the same year that Prado had a year long melt down? Same year, same bike. This year, Febvre isn't as good as last season, but he's not going full Chase Sexton. Maybe there's something going on with Kawasaki in America? Maybe the US operation isn't as well put together as the FIM side. Or maybe it's the bike! The production rules are different between MXGP and AMA, so maybe they can make parts for Febvre's bike that they can't in the US.
Look point is you could put Jett or Lucas Coenen on that bike and they would win just as much. I’m just not buying the fact that there’s some big dark mystery that’s preventing Chase or anybody else that jumps on a KX 450 from winning.
I was in the same camp as you until Sexton got on it and started looking like Ezra Lusk in 03. Now I don’t know what to think
As soon as they move to 250 they start at latest, so between 14-16. You think they all ride SX first time they get pro license? 😄
Most have access to someone with private SX tracks.
We could go all day on the Kawasaki chassis from 03 on, but James Stuart still won on that 250. No one can say if it’s the ‘24 chassis, and word is that Febvre was on the production chassis when he won. So what everyone is trying to say is that Chase can’t win or even race, because the bike and management are just too much and are holding him back too much. I’m just not buying it.
It's not just Chase. It's Chase, Prado, Seewer, Paul's Jonass. Elite riders all capable of doing way better.
Seewer said the bike turns like a oil tanker. Chase has said he has to ride outside lines because can't get to the inside, and around the bumps due to chassi/suspension.
That chassi seems to work for people with a specific riding style like Febvre and Anderson. AC and Anderson has told they where also struggling with chassi before they left kawi.
You have to be a pretty big kawi-fan at this point to not see there is something wrong with team and bike.
Oh my gosh, the panic. The bike is un-rideable, oh my gosh, what are we gonna do? Lol
Tomac won 4 of his titles on one and the majority or his race wins came on one. 🤷♀️
And left because the team wasn't willing to go the distance for them regarding bike development.
Now it seems like they are finally doing something, but hard work doesn't automatically result in great results if you're lost and not competent enough to turn around the project.
And he was instantly significantly better on the Yamaha.
That was MX, not SX. Febvre has won races on bent bars, he's a different rider. We'll find out how the MX comparison holds in a month or so.
He has won and is racing. What most are saying is that he is not a consistent podium finisher now but was expected to be in the championship hunt this year and is miles away from where he was on Honda or KTM, for which he won championships. If you accept that Chase has been successful on the other brands, you have to question why he isn't now. TLDR - it's the team/bike.
Jett struggled with setup on new bike too.... they got it figured out and he was fine. No reason to think he's incapable of prolonged struggles if they can't get it figured out or the platform is garbage though. Has coenen ever ridden SX?
Jett struggled with setup on new bike too.... they got it figured out and he was fine. No reason to think he's incapable of prolonged struggles if they can't get it figured out or the platform is garbage though. Has coenen ever ridden SX?
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Did Steve say that JT had reported that Chase was already not speaking to certain people at Kawasaki?
I did hear it & that was weeks ago. But it didn’t get discussed further.
Is it true?
Chase is the Axl Rose of moto
How is the bike great with a 250 engine bolted in but a mystery to figure out with a 450 engine?
What's the 250 won? Everyone who rides it can't stay off the ground.
Bingo
Maybe they screwed up the chassi trying to make one chassi for both 250 and 450. It looks quiet empty with the 250 engine in there.
Really? He won 62 races in 179 starts (35%). And won 4/12 450 championships on kawi.
Yamaha he has won 21/84 (25%) and won 2 out of 8 championships.
I wouldn't say that indicates he has been "way" better on the Yamaha. It did seem to give him a resurgence moving teams and changing scenery and probably helped to extend his career though.
Sure if numbers tell the story. Did you watch 2022…
It wasn't even on the same chassi. Still it has the same characteristics as when RV was there. At least that is what the factory riders are saying.
Tell us you don’t have much riding experience without telling us you don’t have much riding experience..
He was awesome on that ‘22 Yamaha, but he’s been worse on the new Yamaha outdoors than he ever was on the Kawi.
Agreed. New Yamaha wasn’t an outdoor bike but Eli was also injury after injury by then too
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