SX Lap Times -Track Design

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SX laps have been short at most rounds this year. Leading to deteriorating track conditions.

Can we get some more interesting and longer track designs instead of the same old thing ?

At Detroit, there was one section of the stands bannered off large enough for a nice uphill, U-turn and downhill. How many stadiums will let you remove seats and ride into the stands ?

A Chicane on one of the long rhythm sections with a huge berm against the wall. That would slow things down.

Wall jumps. 2 in a row ?

Over-under bridge with a 3/4 huge bermed turn either coming in or going out ?

45 degree off-chamber with no berm on the outside ?

This has nothing to do with lap times, but roll the jump faces with a Vibratory Roller so the jumps aren't so rutted. With Longer laps the jump faces wouldn't get so abused.

Flame away.

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Unpopular opinion. For head to head racing, triples suck. The riders cover 70+ feet of racetrack in 3 seconds, every rider can easily do them, and there's rarely any passing on them. Plus they get a couple seconds to rest. Want longer lap times / better racing ? Trade a couple big jumps for something more technical (like the features you mentioned), and add more 180 degree turns. Call 1985 and see what they come up with 😄

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4/1/2026 4:48am
sumdood wrote:
Unpopular opinion. For head to head racing, triples suck. The riders cover 70+ feet of racetrack in 3 seconds, every rider can easily do them, and...

Unpopular opinion. For head to head racing, triples suck. The riders cover 70+ feet of racetrack in 3 seconds, every rider can easily do them, and there's rarely any passing on them. Plus they get a couple seconds to rest. Want longer lap times / better racing ? Trade a couple big jumps for something more technical (like the features you mentioned), and add more 180 degree turns. Call 1985 and see what they come up with 😄

For ticket sales every track needs a couple of booters. “The louder you get, the higher they’ll go!”

I agree that some new obstacles or combos could help with laps times. I think the riders would for sure complain about anything that disrupts the smooth flow of the race track, but there are some good options for increasing lap times.

I’m not sure if they aided in longer lap times but I did like the “carrot jumps” that were in Detroit. Gave an opportunity for a little creativity. Silly name, cool section. 

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4/1/2026 5:03am

Add sand turns to the list. 

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There needs to be a spec tire for supercross with shallow knobs, almost trial like. That'll slow the speeds down and save the tracks. 

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Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You could probably add an entire lane that way. 

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4/8/2026 6:12am Edited Date/Time 4/8/2026 6:13am

While switchbacks across the start straight were not one of our original suggestions, doing so would lengthen lap times, make for fewer laps and shallower ruts.

This original St Louis 2026 track map shows 3 additional turns and straights with passing opportunities that would certainly have increased Lap times.

Alas, the Track in St Louis in 2026 only crossed the start straight once in its final rendition.

Leading to sub 1:00 minute lap times and beaucoup complaints about the ruts, and the track described as brutal.

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4/8/2026 6:21am
sumdood wrote:
Unpopular opinion. For head to head racing, triples suck. The riders cover 70+ feet of racetrack in 3 seconds, every rider can easily do them, and...

Unpopular opinion. For head to head racing, triples suck. The riders cover 70+ feet of racetrack in 3 seconds, every rider can easily do them, and there's rarely any passing on them. Plus they get a couple seconds to rest. Want longer lap times / better racing ? Trade a couple big jumps for something more technical (like the features you mentioned), and add more 180 degree turns. Call 1985 and see what they come up with 😄

Hows that an unpopular opinion? Its common knowledge but they are there to entertain the average audience "big jumps" u know. Sucks for racing obviously 

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4/8/2026 6:57am

100% of the track covered with 5ft whoops.  Even the start straight. That will slow it down. 

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aeffertz wrote:
Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You...

Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You could probably add an entire lane that way. 

I like the idea, but I'm struggling to think of a way you could take an existing track design, and add just 1 lane by cutting the start in half without altering the standard width of a lane. Kind of a "what goes up must come down" situation. If you add 1 lane, you'd have to add another to turn/tie into the rest of the track. Can someone take an existing track map and alter it to showcase this?

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aeffertz wrote:
Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You...

Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You could probably add an entire lane that way. 

Just for like 2 rounds, like triple crowns, I would not mind having a 3 row start, with a reverse order grid, the top 7 guys starts on the last grid and have to navigate through the pack. That somewhat could also create new winners once a year. 

And if we keep triple crown, I would not mind having 2 rounds that pay double (so 50 points), with 2 races of 15 or 20 laps. 

Last but not least, I like the east and west championships, so why not trying to do a 6 rounds shoot out championship that would count as a national title.

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4/8/2026 8:26am

Dragons backs and wall jumps seem to be gone.  And there are too many sections they can jump the biggest combo from the inside of the 90°turn.  This makes the outside pointless and the track really one lined through those sections.  That and we need longer whoops that start closer to the turn again.  

Those few changes would add a couple seconds and make the lap times at less consistent. 

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4/8/2026 9:24am

The 200'x300' floor space has been done. Longer laptimes need more floor space. The racing is better with more room.

This year, only Anaheim and Daytona aren't in a football stadium. More track & field stadiums or at least baseball stadiums.

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4/8/2026 9:24am Edited Date/Time 4/8/2026 9:26am

I have an idea. Start using more speedways for "hybrid" type tracks. Supercross is nice, but the tracks get very rutted, lappers get in the way. I think longer laps would help cut down on this. Right now the only SX speedway is Daytona, start by making half of the tracks on a speedway. I would try to eventually get all, but it might be hard to find a speedway, or similar venue with ample seating to compare to the current MLB and NFL stadiums.

 

I feel that 4 strokes have contributed to the racers outgrowing the current stadiums. 

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4/8/2026 9:32am

More 180 turns, less 90, 11/12 whoops, change steepness of obstacles out of corners. St. Louis was a good example of this, but the track was soft. 

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4/8/2026 9:41am
aeffertz wrote:
Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You...

Call me crazy but I think it’d be cool to cut the start straight in half and do a two row start at A round. You could probably add an entire lane that way. 

Supercross is looking more and more like arenacross. A few football stadiums have 7 lanes wide whereas most are 6 wide - I think it would just end up like another one of those. If we're going to 14 football stadiums though I'd like to see something different.

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mx 219 wrote:
I have an idea. Start using more speedways for "hybrid" type tracks. Supercross is nice, but the tracks get very rutted, lappers get in the way...

I have an idea. Start using more speedways for "hybrid" type tracks. Supercross is nice, but the tracks get very rutted, lappers get in the way. I think longer laps would help cut down on this. Right now the only SX speedway is Daytona, start by making half of the tracks on a speedway. I would try to eventually get all, but it might be hard to find a speedway, or similar venue with ample seating to compare to the current MLB and NFL stadiums.

 

I feel that 4 strokes have contributed to the racers outgrowing the current stadiums. 

Agree. Daytona, Atlanta Speedway, Charlotte Speedway - but these can be SMX rounds. Bristol or Martnisville would be amazing.

Have you ever been to a supercross at a speedway? I hear the spectating is not great in person. If they can remove the chainlink fence - they have done it at Bristol - then I would rather travel to see that than visit my local football stadium.

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4/8/2026 12:13pm

9 Whoops

Pathetic 

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Being a little more creative with the floorspace or using over unders would help too. A layout like this would of made for a longer laptop especially if they left the three switchbacks over the start in1000004768 2

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It appears from this concept drawing that they tightened Nashville up a bit ? Maybe 1 minute lap times ? Like the idea of a tight sand section. It looks like they could add a Chicane on that long rhythm section on the right and make it way slower and more interesting with 3 additional turns ? Fast guys will turn that whole lane into 3 or 4 jumps.

 

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