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Let me preface this by saying he’s a supreme fake persona, hell he’d probably be alright to hang out with if he’d just be himself. I put him midpack if he lines up, would show us what he’s got.
You won't find many ex or current pro's that dismiss Deegs abilities. If people could put their dislike of his personality behind them and focus on Deegan's riding skills they could arguably would put him in the top five or even podium of a 450 SX/MX. The kid is built like a brick and won't turn into a wet noodle on a 450 and that alone puts him in the top 10.
He won back to back outdoor titles, and is on track to do with same this year on the 250 indoors. What else does a guy need to do to earn it? I'm not talking about personality stuff. Only speaking on results.
He had 15 chances to put Kitchen in the cheap seats in Seattle, yet he rode clean(ish) & provided us the best 250 main any of us have seen in years.
I still think his tactics on Shimoda in Vegas were absolute chickenshit.
I still think his podium speech after Forkner damn near died was appalling.
I do however think he is learning (slowly) how to turn down the DangerBoy antics when they're not needed (after the checkers last weekend) & his riding is so damn fun to watch.....
Deeg's still has time to chill down the act & let his riding do the talking like this past weekend.
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methinks that is solely for his employer to decide using whatever criteria makes the most sense to them, not commentors on the internet.
He earned it by beating almost everyone through his entire junior career. You act like his family is the only one with money and everyone else at Loretta's is on a 3 year old bike. And then he has dominated the calls for 2 season now and all of the other riders you guy like to suck up to are getting smoked. Levi caught him, finally, Haiden let him by, learned his lined and then beat him clean. Kid is 20 and unless he gets hurt is likely to be here for a while. And this is a professions meaning the goal is to win and make money. And his schtick makes a LOT OF MONEY for a lot of people.
yet you automatically assume none of the 450 guys are on his level- or above his? Without ANY prior results whatsoever that he'll automatically be a podium guy in 450s right from Day 1?
I got no dog in this fight. 250s are like Triple A baseball minor leagues to me. The big show is 450s class with ultimate bragging rights- which is why everyone aspires to get there right?
If he races Daytona, he will be on the box…
Not happening. He's going for a sweep of 250W. That's far more important than risking an injury on a 450 that he still needs more time on.
why is it so important? Reed won every race but the final East vs West in Vegas in 2002 (rookie season). No one speaks, remembers or cares about that...
Because it didn’t happen. Jesseman won Pontiac.
RC is the only one to sweep a 125 SX series.
best main in years is slowing down and barely beating sub-par competition???? that's just retardation... not a great race... LMAOOOO
thy cringe lord is dern lucky he's not having to race actual competition like Joe or Davies....
Not surprising these takes are coming from Boulder.
Hate to break it to you, but he can't sweep 250 West.
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I was excited about the race for the decades and immediately made a thread here only to get a bunch of people responding like you who were talking shit and claiming Deegan was slowing down to take shots, and show us his full collection of take out moves, etc. It's well documented in this thread that only small minority here here can appreciate the good racing that it was, and can look past any personality issues one may have with the kid who did nothing wrong in this race:
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/you-guys-still-hate-haiden-after?page=0
Meanwhile, it was very interesting to watch this unfold and witness how everyone else who doesn't hate Deegan saw it exactly like us. I suggest everyone who saw a very skewed version of the the race like you do, watch these level headed guys talk about it, and all the other "race of the year" race recaps that are out there:
He will not race Daytona and risk the championship. Now if he wins the 2 E/W shootouts and clinches early maybe he races one. But I doubt it
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How is he sweeping the West, he lost the opener?
Maybe he get a throwaway race? 😁
We call that a breakfast ball in golf
Jo or Davies? You mean the guys he has already thoroughly dominated? 😂 Kitchen is #2 overall and the shootouts will prove this.
Deegan in the past has stated it is all about the money. He would only have to finish 7-9th to equal what he makes in the 250 class.. Guess he gets sizeable bonus for the win on the 250, although he only has half as many races to earn from.
I agree, I would only add that he would be on the top of the box at Daytona because if anyone was honest with themselves, they'd know he'd place P1.
You think he top 5s in this field of 450sx?
I'd give him a better than 50/50 chance. The top five are tough but I think the lap times of sixth and below are way off the top five numbers.
EZ pickings for Deegan?
That’s right, Reedy did get second to Jesseman in that one. I’ve previously forgotten that myself because Chad came in as a rookie and won six straight. If that happened now, people would lose their minds.
As for Deegan, before this year, he hasn’t exactly been convincing in SX like he has in MX. This year is different, credit where credit is due. With the benefit of hindsight, I reckon they got his transition spot on.
Capabilities wise yes, but we saw in WSX that they had things to work on, on the bike.
So I'm not sure they would have bike dialed for him for one race.
Clutch setup and starts was issue. If he starts 10-15, very difficult.
Yeah, but we're talking Daytona here.
IMO, WSX was a throwaway; most everyone had set up issues.
Honest question, is he beating Webb or J.Coop at the test track?
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