In a world full of Deegans be a Mcadoo

Bearuno wrote:

I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around...

I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around for a while.

 Who was it?

I think it was 'Paul' Webb, but, at the same time, I think I'm wrong.

NSP139 wrote:

Carson Munford rode the fuel injected CRF150  for Factory Connection. A lot of money and effort put into that bike and it still wasn't competitive with...

Carson Munford rode the fuel injected CRF150  for Factory Connection. A lot of money and effort put into that bike and it still wasn't competitive with the two-stroke super minis

Zacka 161 wrote:

The crf150 was built to compete with 85s and then not allowed to — shows honda doesn’t have the sway we all thought — so Factory...

The crf150 was built to compete with 85s and then not allowed to — shows honda doesn’t have the sway we all thought — so Factory Connection, in order to provide a pathway to the pro ranks did the best they could.  


At one time 125 2 strokes were considered competitive with 250 four stroke, there’s no way a 150 four stroke could compete with a 112 2 stroke.  it’s really the best they could do.  

AMA should have lowered to 85cc four stroke limit to 125cc and lifted the super minis four stroke to 175cc. 

Mavetism wrote:

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate...

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate to grow up riding and racing dirt bikes as a kid and I've seen all kind of families. Some families for sure make more sacrifices than others, no question about it. But if you can afford going riding or to races every weekend, you're not BROKE. In some rider segments they make it sound like they had to grow up in slums

 

Juck wrote:

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Sandusky26 wrote:

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school...

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

GrapeApe wrote:

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

Old School Fool wrote:

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Barcia was the first, Webb took over when Barcia moved up to big bikes

https://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Vital-MX-Pit-Bits-Steel-City-Pre-Race,35726/Honda-CRF150-Cup,39764/GuyB,64

GrapeApe wrote:

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

Old School Fool wrote:

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

Kingo125 wrote:

Mcadoo is just such a good person, hopefully gets a win here soon. Pretty telling when none of them congratulate Deegan after the race. They all...

Mcadoo is just such a good person, hopefully gets a win here soon. Pretty telling when none of them congratulate Deegan after the race. They all hate him! And before all you Deegashian nut swingers come at me its not because he is fast its because he is a knob 

cwel11 wrote:

I’m in the camp of I’d rather not hear either of them on the podium. They’re both cringey for different reasons. On a side note I...

I’m in the camp of I’d rather not hear either of them on the podium. They’re both cringey for different reasons. On a side note I find myself completely tuned out on 250s this season so far. It’s not even just that one guy is running away as much as it’s just kinda boring all the way through the pack. Or at least what’s been televised anyway. Feel like the  East/West split has run its course. I’d much rather see the best on 250s race every weekend. 

C.Worthy wrote:

Are you sure that's all he cares about? It seems like he cares about the attention and emotional response based on all his antics. If the...

Are you sure that's all he cares about? It seems like he cares about the attention and emotional response based on all his antics. If the dude just put his head down and raced he'd have a lot more fans. Instead he's busy lashing out on social media leaving controversial comments he knows is gonna bring attention and discussion. Uploading pics to social media that'll offend his competition and fans to get that emotional response and have all eyes on him. He operates under the policy any publicity is good publicity for his brand so let's create drama and controversial things to bring in more eyes. I mean, his dad is busy arguing with strangers on social media comments cuz it emotionally affects him so much. To say he only cares about winning? His actions prove otherwise.

He's fast. I'm sure he cares about winning. But he also cares about drumming up controversy and starting drama and in the process you lose respect from your competition. Which is fine, not everyone is a respectable person. He's got a brand to manage and speed only gets you so far.

chill014 wrote:

Yeah I don’t think deegan cares what the comp thinks about him. He just cares about winning, and he’s been very successful at that.

Kenny Banyan wrote:

The rest of the field could learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 from Danger Boy! Out work your competition, Block out all negativity...

The rest of the field could learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 from Danger Boy! 
Out work your competition, Block out all negativity, Don’t get too friendly with fellow competitors, Stay focused on race day, Leave nothing on the table at the end of the night. This kid has put on a clinic the last 4 weeks. He’s a Team owners Dream! Mitch would love to have Danger Boy !

Tyler D wrote:

You're not wrong about the negativity bit, but This is the lance Armstrong model (who paradoxically cf macadoo was also raised poor and by a single...

You're not wrong about the negativity bit, but This is the lance Armstrong model (who paradoxically cf macadoo was also raised poor and by a single mother). You're always right and everyone is your enemy until they submit to you. It worked out exceedingly well for him until it didn't. If he woulda compromised and given floyd landis a ride, floyd wouldn't have turned on him. 

Worked for Ricky too, but he doesn't have alot of fans/friends these days. How long did it take him to makeup with Matthes? Oh yea when he had something he needed to promote...

Being a narcissistic sociopath is a bit like being king midas. Or a rich leper. 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

The rest of the field could learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 from Danger Boy! Out work your competition, Block out all negativity...

The rest of the field could learn a thing or 2 about a thing or 2 from Danger Boy! 
Out work your competition, Block out all negativity, Don’t get too friendly with fellow competitors, Stay focused on race day, Leave nothing on the table at the end of the night. This kid has put on a clinic the last 4 weeks. He’s a Team owners Dream! Mitch would love to have Danger Boy !

Tyler D wrote:

You're not wrong about the negativity bit, but This is the lance Armstrong model (who paradoxically cf macadoo was also raised poor and by a single...

You're not wrong about the negativity bit, but This is the lance Armstrong model (who paradoxically cf macadoo was also raised poor and by a single mother). You're always right and everyone is your enemy until they submit to you. It worked out exceedingly well for him until it didn't. If he woulda compromised and given floyd landis a ride, floyd wouldn't have turned on him. 

Worked for Ricky too, but he doesn't have alot of fans/friends these days. How long did it take him to makeup with Matthes? Oh yea when he had something he needed to promote...

Being a narcissistic sociopath is a bit like being king midas. Or a rich leper. 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

You’re comparison to Armstrong is ridiculous. For one thing Floyd blew everything up after Lance was retired and he got caught juicing himself. Don’t get me...

You’re comparison to Armstrong is ridiculous. For one thing Floyd blew everything up after Lance was retired and he got caught juicing himself. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending Armstrong, but to compare him to Deegan is crazy. 

Sully wrote:

Apparently you missed Shive’s LCQ interview. Kid thanked all 8 billion people on earth, individually. Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I thought it was...

Apparently you missed Shive’s LCQ interview. Kid thanked all 8 billion people on earth, individually. 
Before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I thought it was funny, and I’m glad the broadcast is finally giving these LCQ winners their due. 

Tyler D wrote:

You're not wrong about the negativity bit, but This is the lance Armstrong model (who paradoxically cf macadoo was also raised poor and by a single...

You're not wrong about the negativity bit, but This is the lance Armstrong model (who paradoxically cf macadoo was also raised poor and by a single mother). You're always right and everyone is your enemy until they submit to you. It worked out exceedingly well for him until it didn't. If he woulda compromised and given floyd landis a ride, floyd wouldn't have turned on him. 

Worked for Ricky too, but he doesn't have alot of fans/friends these days. How long did it take him to makeup with Matthes? Oh yea when he had something he needed to promote...

Being a narcissistic sociopath is a bit like being king midas. Or a rich leper. 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

You’re comparison to Armstrong is ridiculous. For one thing Floyd blew everything up after Lance was retired and he got caught juicing himself. Don’t get me...

You’re comparison to Armstrong is ridiculous. For one thing Floyd blew everything up after Lance was retired and he got caught juicing himself. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending Armstrong, but to compare him to Deegan is crazy. 

Tyler D wrote:

I "compared" RC too, but your reading comprehension seems to be lacking; had floyd been given a ride he wouldn't have talked. That was his position...

I "compared" RC too, but your reading comprehension seems to be lacking; had floyd been given a ride he wouldn't have talked. That was his position. But for Lance being a spiteful prick, floyd would have stayed loyal. Period. Chronology doesn't change that. 

The character traits can be the same while the degree of severity and/or outcome can differ. Lack of remorse, gravitation toward negative motivation (need to create and stoke feuds), projection of personal flaws and so on. 

There's a bajillion books written about this stuff...it's not rocket surgery. 

Old School Fool wrote:

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

GrapeApe wrote:

Barcia was the first, Webb took over when Barcia moved up to big bikes

https://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Vital-MX-Pit-Bits-Steel-City-Pre-Race,35726/Honda-CRF150-Cup,39764/GuyB,64

lukaitis9 wrote:

GrapeApe wrote:

Barcia was the first, Webb took over when Barcia moved up to big bikes

https://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/Vital-MX-Pit-Bits-Steel-City-Pre-Race,35726/Honda-CRF150-Cup,39764/GuyB,64

lukaitis9 wrote:

Radical wrote:

Is that Chase Sexton in the Shift jersey in the first image?

Juck wrote:

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Sandusky26 wrote:

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school...

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

gt80rider wrote:

We talkn the same Paul that was on bubbas world hucking the entire track on an 85??? Webb has loadsssssss of talent, has put in a...

We talkn the same Paul that was on bubbas world hucking the entire track on an 85??? Webb has loadsssssss of talent, has put in a chit ton of work, and has been elite pretty much since the beginning... sure AC got more attention and support... but Paul wasn't some mid-pack no talent kid.... far from it... 

The Wolf Man wrote:

Mcadoo: Hey, do you know my sister is in the navy?Kitchen: Ah, yep, you've told us that a few times before...might be time to give it...

Mcadoo: Hey, do you know my sister is in the navy?

Kitchen: Ah, yep, you've told us that a few times before...might be time to give it a rest...

 

The Wolf Man wrote:

Mcadoo: Hey, do you know my sister is in the navy?Kitchen: Ah, yep, you've told us that a few times before...might be time to give it...

Mcadoo: Hey, do you know my sister is in the navy?

Kitchen: Ah, yep, you've told us that a few times before...might be time to give it a rest...