In a world full of Deegans be a Mcadoo

2/8/2026 11:14am
jazza167 wrote:

When did being friends with your competition become the metric for being a successful racer? 

C.Worthy wrote:

Who said friends? Or success? No one respects him enough to even give credit where credit is due. 

chill014 wrote:

Yeah I don’t think deegan cares what the comp thinks about him. He just cares about winning, and he’s been very successful at that.

I doubt that's true, most people seek peer approval.

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C.Worthy wrote:

Who said friends? Or success? No one respects him enough to even give credit where credit is due. 

chill014 wrote:

Yeah I don’t think deegan cares what the comp thinks about him. He just cares about winning, and he’s been very successful at that.

I doubt that's true, most people seek peer approval.

Yeah, you can often see that in his face when he gets boed that he needs to snap out of it and put on his fake smile and act like he doesn’t care.

I doubt that nobody would go unfazed having thousands of people boing at you..

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jazza167 wrote:

When did being friends with your competition become the metric for being a successful racer? 

C.Worthy wrote:

Who said friends? Or success? No one respects him enough to even give credit where credit is due. 

chill014 wrote:

Yeah I don’t think deegan cares what the comp thinks about him. He just cares about winning, and he’s been very successful at that.

Are you sure that's all he cares about? It seems like he cares about the attention and emotional response based on all his antics. If the dude just put his head down and raced he'd have a lot more fans. Instead he's busy lashing out on social media leaving controversial comments he knows is gonna bring attention and discussion. Uploading pics to social media that'll offend his competition and fans to get that emotional response and have all eyes on him. He operates under the policy any publicity is good publicity for his brand so let's create drama and controversial things to bring in more eyes. I mean, his dad is busy arguing with strangers on social media comments cuz it emotionally affects him so much. To say he only cares about winning? His actions prove otherwise.

He's fast. I'm sure he cares about winning. But he also cares about drumming up controversy and starting drama and in the process you lose respect from your competition. Which is fine, not everyone is a respectable person. He's got a brand to manage and speed only gets you so far.

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2/8/2026 11:54am
dura max wrote:

Tell that to his competition.  And BTW, most of these "kids" came from money. This sport is not cheap.  

Mavetism wrote:
Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate...

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate to grow up riding and racing dirt bikes as a kid and I've seen all kind of families. Some families for sure make more sacrifices than others, no question about it. But if you can afford going riding or to races every weekend, you're not BROKE. In some rider segments they make it sound like they had to grow up in slums

 

Juck wrote:
This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

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C.Worthy wrote:

Who said friends? Or success? No one respects him enough to even give credit where credit is due. 

They may not like him, but they respect him a lot.

RonSkj wrote:

Recognizing his riding skills, is a long ways from respect.  

They respect his skills and his game. They envy his bank account , wins and Championships. If they were smart they’d try to emulate him, if they did, maybe he wouldn’t “PUMP” them so badly every weekend.

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Mavetism wrote:
Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate...

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate to grow up riding and racing dirt bikes as a kid and I've seen all kind of families. Some families for sure make more sacrifices than others, no question about it. But if you can afford going riding or to races every weekend, you're not BROKE. In some rider segments they make it sound like they had to grow up in slums

 

Juck wrote:
This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Sandusky26 wrote:
Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school...

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

I can't tell if you're being serious or not

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2/8/2026 12:32pm

Its kinda been mentioned but deegs definitely doesn't "block out negativity".  Nah man he slurps it up.

And I bet tomac changes his outlook after watching a replay of what Craig did.  Im sure he won't redact his statements tho

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Mavetism wrote:

In a world full of Deegans and McAdoos, be a Tomac

Or a Kenny, or a Hunter or even a Sexton. Sexton's interview with Lewis was great, open without having to slam someone else. 

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Talon wrote:
At first it was whatever but the constant my sister thing is getting old. They are pushing that story hard for some reason. To the point...

At first it was whatever but the constant my sister thing is getting old. They are pushing that story hard for some reason. To the point we need her standing there during his podium speech like shes a monster girl? Weird

Americans love a good bootlicking.

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Mavetism wrote:
Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate...

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate to grow up riding and racing dirt bikes as a kid and I've seen all kind of families. Some families for sure make more sacrifices than others, no question about it. But if you can afford going riding or to races every weekend, you're not BROKE. In some rider segments they make it sound like they had to grow up in slums

 

Juck wrote:
This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Sandusky26 wrote:
Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school...

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

Thats legit a cool fking story. 

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Mavetism wrote:
Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate...

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate to grow up riding and racing dirt bikes as a kid and I've seen all kind of families. Some families for sure make more sacrifices than others, no question about it. But if you can afford going riding or to races every weekend, you're not BROKE. In some rider segments they make it sound like they had to grow up in slums

 

Juck wrote:
This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Sandusky26 wrote:
Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school...

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

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Pretty crazy how far some of you guys have gone from the 'Thank you for your service' to every person who's signed up and now it's 'looks masculine' or 'not decorated enough' 

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Seems like a really nice guy that’s sadly been brainwashed by the cult of religion and the cult of the military industrial complex… makes the tears seem more sad than anything else. Poor dude. 

Excellent ride though love his grit! 

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Kingo125 wrote:
Mcadoo is just such a good person, hopefully gets a win here soon. Pretty telling when none of them congratulate Deegan after the race. They all...

Mcadoo is just such a good person, hopefully gets a win here soon. Pretty telling when none of them congratulate Deegan after the race. They all hate him! And before all you Deegashian nut swingers come at me its not because he is fast its because he is a knob 

Kitchen gave credit to Deegan on the podium.

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Why, so I can be a 40 year old virgin?

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I’m in the camp of I’d rather not hear either of them on the podium. They’re both cringey for different reasons. On a side note I...

I’m in the camp of I’d rather not hear either of them on the podium. They’re both cringey for different reasons. On a side note I find myself completely tuned out on 250s this season so far. It’s not even just that one guy is running away as much as it’s just kinda boring all the way through the pack. Or at least what’s been televised anyway. Feel like the  East/West split has run its course. I’d much rather see the best on 250s race every weekend. 

East/West has most definitely run its course...

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Mavetism wrote:
Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate...

Good, so it's not just me cringing everytime they come up with a "we didn't have money back then" rider story. I was also very fortunate to grow up riding and racing dirt bikes as a kid and I've seen all kind of families. Some families for sure make more sacrifices than others, no question about it. But if you can afford going riding or to races every weekend, you're not BROKE. In some rider segments they make it sound like they had to grow up in slums

 

Juck wrote:
This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up...

This is some of the stuff that bothers me the most. These riders have no idea what struggle is. They think because they didn't grow up at a training facility that they came from nothing. 

There was a segment with Webb during the broadcast that made me roll my eyes so hard, where he was talking about how little he had growing up and if he didn't make it he'd have to go work at a surf shop (owned by his parents.) 

If motocross was as accessible as football is Jett would be getting lapped. Every rider that is out there would not be there if they didn't have rich parents that supported their careers.

Sandusky26 wrote:
Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school...

Webb didn't have it easy. He got to ride once or twice during the week. I would meet him at the track on Wednesday after school and he would do his motos with a no body construction worker on his stock CR85 with shitty Kenda tires.

AC92 was on the best bikes and training with pro's. I say it a lot, but I cannot believe he has won 3 SX titles.

 

Yes, everyday young Cooper would rise at 4.30am and scrub his parent's log cabin from top to bottom using only his tongue. He'd then go and work in the local coal mine from 5.30am to 10.30pm with only one grain of rice to sustain his labours. Finally, after again cleaning the house until it was spotless using his tongue and some lemon juice he would crawl into bed to sleep on a piece of old wood covered in barbed wire...

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Rich parents can give you Thomas Covington (no hate) or it can give you Haiden Deegan.

Without the right mindset and grit, money doesent matter, (but it sure helps…)

RC got some hate when he went from Kawi to Honda, eventually at Suzuki he became the peoples champion, also taking up the MXON spirit in the mid 2000’s.

After a couple years in the 450 class, most haters will suck Haidens balls…

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What time does Deegan race ?

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GrapeApe wrote:
Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

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GrapeApe wrote:
Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around for a while.

 Who was it?

I think it was 'Paul' Webb, but, at the same time, I think I'm wrong.

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johnk408 wrote:

Then definitely don't show her Alessi finally winning a heat raceSmile

 Twelve years later and Alessi is still in your thoughts….rent free.

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GrapeApe wrote:
Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

Bearuno wrote:
I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around...

I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around for a while.

 Who was it?

I think it was 'Paul' Webb, but, at the same time, I think I'm wrong.

Wasn’t it Carson Mumford? 

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GrapeApe wrote:
Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

Bearuno wrote:
I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around...

I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around for a while.

 Who was it?

I think it was 'Paul' Webb, but, at the same time, I think I'm wrong.

Carson Munford rode the fuel injected CRF150  for Factory Connection. A lot of money and effort put into that bike and it still wasn't competitive with the two-stroke super minis

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They may not like him, but they respect him a lot.

RonSkj wrote:

Recognizing his riding skills, is a long ways from respect.  

They respect his skills and his game. They envy his bank account , wins and Championships. If they were smart they’d try to emulate him, if...

They respect his skills and his game. They envy his bank account , wins and Championships. If they were smart they’d try to emulate him, if they did, maybe he wouldn’t “PUMP” them so badly every weekend.

I wouldn’t mind emulating his bank account but there’s no way anyone could pay me enough to emulate his social media presence. You say Cameron is cringe on the podium but apparently no one’s ever showed you Deegans TikTok page. Looks like he should be hanging out with Derek Zoolander. 

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           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

Bearuno wrote:
I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around...

I'm not entering into this 'Hate' session - I just want confirmation on  who was the rider of the Fuel Injected CRF150 project that was around for a while.

 Who was it?

I think it was 'Paul' Webb, but, at the same time, I think I'm wrong.

NSP139 wrote:
Carson Munford rode the fuel injected CRF150  for Factory Connection. A lot of money and effort put into that bike and it still wasn't competitive with...

Carson Munford rode the fuel injected CRF150  for Factory Connection. A lot of money and effort put into that bike and it still wasn't competitive with the two-stroke super minis

The crf150 was built to compete with 85s and then not allowed to — shows honda doesn’t have the sway we all thought — so Factory Connection, in order to provide a pathway to the pro ranks did the best they could.  


At one time 125 2 strokes were considered competitive with 250 four stroke, there’s no way a 150 four stroke could compete with a 112 2 stroke.  it’s really the best they could do.  

AMA should have lowered to 85cc four stroke limit to 125cc and lifted the super minis four stroke to 175cc. 

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GrapeApe wrote:
Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire...

Webb was hand picked by American Honda to be the face of their CRF150 and they even got him exhibition races in front of the entire industry at pro nationals under the guise of the "CRF150 Cup". He rode for American Honda and was a Red Bull JAMS racer for 4 years before signing with Rockstar Star Yamaha to transition to big bikes and then the pros. 99.9% of prospective racers would give their left nut to have his "struggles." I'm sorry he was consistently beat by AC but this is why some people to this day don't like him. He's the Baker Mayfield of motocross, always addressing the non-existent non-believers and haters. 

 

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

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RonSkj wrote:

Recognizing his riding skills, is a long ways from respect.  

They respect his skills and his game. They envy his bank account , wins and Championships. If they were smart they’d try to emulate him, if...

They respect his skills and his game. They envy his bank account , wins and Championships. If they were smart they’d try to emulate him, if they did, maybe he wouldn’t “PUMP” them so badly every weekend.

I wouldn’t mind emulating his bank account but there’s no way anyone could pay me enough to emulate his social media presence. You say Cameron is...

I wouldn’t mind emulating his bank account but there’s no way anyone could pay me enough to emulate his social media presence. You say Cameron is cringe on the podium but apparently no one’s ever showed you Deegans TikTok page. Looks like he should be hanging out with Derek Zoolander. 

Correct, I’m not on any social media stuff.

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           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several...

           I was under the impression that Justin Barca was the lad rider for the CRF150. Seems I saw him on several TV commercials back in the day. 

That's what I thought too.

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2/9/2026 9:15am

Coop was factory way back in 03

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