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cool_hand wrote:
number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't chokingI think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast...

number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't choking

I think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast the rest of the pack, Tomac, Sexton, Roczen, etc, but Hunter is the real problem

kage173 wrote:

I like Hunter. But, he's got to get some race wins under his belt. 3 race wins this season, championship contender next year. 

Tim Ferry would disagree with you. 

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I don't agree with OP here. Webb has only finished in front of the current points leader once in an abbreviated race. Webb is fully aware that he will need to get multiple race wins like he did last year to have a grip on this.

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This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. Dungey completely dominated often during his career, both indoors and out. There is nothing about Hunter's career thus...

This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. Dungey completely dominated often during his career, both indoors and out. There is nothing about Hunter's career thus far that puts him anywhere close to Dungey's abilities or accomplishments.

vdrsnk04 wrote:
Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not...

Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not there to be compared with them, yet.

warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

MC

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not...

Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not there to be compared with them, yet.

warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

MC

You may want to go back and check the record books. Specifically '95 outdoor title, surrounded by other solid performances in nearby years. So no, anyone else want to give it a go?

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Webbs ability to turn down early in 180s and develop momentum instantly is mind boggling..

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Webb has always been one of those guys who can shit points.

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cool_hand wrote:
number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't chokingI think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast...

number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't choking

I think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast the rest of the pack, Tomac, Sexton, Roczen, etc, but Hunter is the real problem

Tomac still looks like the guy to beat. 1 fluke crash

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Leemur891 wrote:
I don’t think Webb has a grip on the pack nearly as well as he has in the past. You could say he has Kenny covered...

I don’t think Webb has a grip on the pack nearly as well as he has in the past. You could say he has Kenny covered, but that’s because he always has. Everyone else I’m not sure you can stamp that statement. If Hunter wins the title this season, it is going to mirror the Dunge style of consistency rather than domination. We’ve got a great 450 season ahead of us.

warrior462 wrote:
This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. Dungey completely dominated often during his career, both indoors and out. There is nothing about Hunter's career thus...

This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. Dungey completely dominated often during his career, both indoors and out. There is nothing about Hunter's career thus far that puts him anywhere close to Dungey's abilities or accomplishments.

I see your point I suppose, but calling Mr. Consistency exactly that isn’t a huge misrepresentation imo. I also didn’t say Hunter is Dungey. I said if Hunter were to win this series it would be through consistency and not complete domination. A couple of wins and consistent podiums. 

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I’m old so for me I’m rooting for Eli or Kenny to bring it home. That being said, it has been fun to watch when you really have no idea whose night it is. God I hope they stay healthy because the 450 racing has been amazing to date. 

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cool_hand wrote:
number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't chokingI think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast...

number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't choking

I think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast the rest of the pack, Tomac, Sexton, Roczen, etc, but Hunter is the real problem

kage173 wrote:

I like Hunter. But, he's got to get some race wins under his belt. 3 race wins this season, championship contender next year. 

Matt414 wrote:

Tim Ferry would disagree with you. 

Yeah that was in the small bikes with half the races

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2/1/2026 3:56pm Edited Date/Time 2/1/2026 3:56pm
cool_hand wrote:
number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't chokingI think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast...

number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't choking

I think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast the rest of the pack, Tomac, Sexton, Roczen, etc, but Hunter is the real problem

JayDeerTay wrote:

Tomac still looks like the guy to beat. 1 fluke crash

How many seasons has et3 raced 450 sx? And how many titles does he have??? The facts are against you... et3 gonna et3 at some point... race wins hell ya... but dat title... not so likely.... 

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When things go wrong for others Webb can win. He usually doesn’t on speed alone. 

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warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

MC

warrior462 wrote:
You may want to go back and check the record books. Specifically '95 outdoor title, surrounded by other solid performances in nearby years. So no, anyone...

You may want to go back and check the record books. Specifically '95 outdoor title, surrounded by other solid performances in nearby years. So no, anyone else want to give it a go?

If you’d read back you would see my earlier posts were nearly identical to yours when I said how Webb wins and how he wins titles. But comparing MC in SX to MC in MX he wasn’t nearly the same guy and wasn’t relevant for the most part in MX unless the stars aligned. Also anyone can “give it a go” because it’s a matter of opinion, all of this talk.

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Admit it…..you all are enjoying the season more with only one Lawrence. 
 

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Admit it…..you all are enjoying the season more with only one Lawrence. 
 

Yes and no. I love watching Jett push the limits. But it’s also not new, him not making it through a full 450 season unfortunately. But it’s also fun to see so many guys in the mix. 

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Webb makes a lot of his time up with his ability to make tight turns like nobody's business.   And he's a lot like Hunter where...

Webb makes a lot of his time up with his ability to make tight turns like nobody's business.   And he's a lot like Hunter where his lap times don't seem to take a nosedive late in the race.   Those dudes are like freight trains.

This might seem counterintuitive, but Webb's skills are actually easier to recognize in person rather than on TV. Watching a race on TV, it's very obvious how wickedly fast guys like Tomac, Sexton, or Roczen are when they're in the zone... the way they throw the bike around through rhythms and destroy a set of whoops is hard to miss. But Webb's strengths are in the minutiae of the track. 

I remember sitting in front of the whoops at Tampa SX in 2023, and it was raining a bit, so the track was quite slick. There was a small quasi-triple before the whoops that presented the riders with a few different options - most guys tripled it and then hit the whoops straight on, but they then struggled to get through the whoops clean due to the slick conditions. In the main event, Webb started to double it and use the last little lip to double into the whoops, using the starter whoop as the downside. It required a lot of precision, and didn't necessarily look fast or impressive, but it allowed him to establish a rhythm in the whoops better than anybody else that night. Eventually, Sexton went down in the whoops, and Webb took the lead and won. He's not outrageously gifted in one specific skillset on the track, but he analyzes the race like no other and makes the most out of his abilities.

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warrior462 wrote:
This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. Dungey completely dominated often during his career, both indoors and out. There is nothing about Hunter's career thus...

This is such a misrepresentation of the facts. Dungey completely dominated often during his career, both indoors and out. There is nothing about Hunter's career thus far that puts him anywhere close to Dungey's abilities or accomplishments.

vdrsnk04 wrote:
Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not...

Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not there to be compared with them, yet.

warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

What number is Webb running this year?

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not...

Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not there to be compared with them, yet.

warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

MC

MC won a premier class motocross championship in 1995. Webb has only won one 450 overall. 

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vdrsnk04 wrote:
Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not...

Similar to what I said above. There is a reason Dungey and Webb are so high up on the wins and titles list. Hunter is not there to be compared with them, yet.

warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

Forty wrote:

What number is Webb running this year?

Who was injured last year?

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warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

Forty wrote:

What number is Webb running this year?

Who was injured last year?

Not Webb

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be interesting to see if Hunta can handle the pressure if he gets the point lead and everybody gunning for him. Might cause him to lose his consistency and comfort zone that he's had so far.

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cool_hand wrote:
number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't chokingI think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast...

number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't choking

I think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast the rest of the pack, Tomac, Sexton, Roczen, etc, but Hunter is the real problem

kage173 wrote:

I like Hunter. But, he's got to get some race wins under his belt. 3 race wins this season, championship contender next year. 

dadofagun wrote:
I really like Hunter as well, as he just seems to "always" be right there.......Reminds me of Dungey so much it's spooky.  Was thinking last night...

I really like Hunter as well, as he just seems to "always" be right there.......Reminds me of Dungey so much it's spooky.  Was thinking last night how nuts the world would go if Hunter pulled this whole thing off without an overall.......  Anything is possible this year!

Dungey won way more often than Hunter

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warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

vdrsnk04 wrote:

MC

MC won a premier class motocross championship in 1995. Webb has only won one 450 overall. 

Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career. Best MC had was John Down and Mike Larocco. lol.we are talking about supercross in this anyway you guys sure are grabbing for straws here. 

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warrior462 wrote:
As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable...

As far as Webb, this is quite laughable. He has never "had a grip on the pack" in any way, shape, or form. He is incapable of beating any of the top guys head to head. He wins when his competition throws it away and hands it to him, and that is it. He is a second tier racer, as evidenced by his complete and total irrelevance in 450 outdoor competition. Truly, name me a superstar of the sport who has ever been entirely irrelevant in either one of the two disciplines.

Forty wrote:

What number is Webb running this year?

Who was injured last year?

You have to be able to ride your bike to win, can’t do it injured on your couch. Again it proves why Webb has 3 SX titles, the most of any active guy in the field.

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vdrsnk04 wrote:

MC

MC won a premier class motocross championship in 1995. Webb has only won one 450 overall. 

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Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career...

Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career. Best MC had was John Down and Mike Larocco. lol.we are talking about supercross in this anyway you guys sure are grabbing for straws here. 

You want to say that to Larocco’s face?

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MC won a premier class motocross championship in 1995. Webb has only won one 450 overall. 

vdrsnk04 wrote:
Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career...

Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career. Best MC had was John Down and Mike Larocco. lol.we are talking about supercross in this anyway you guys sure are grabbing for straws here. 

You want to say that to Larocco’s face?

Sure, just going off stats not opinions so no disrespect to LaRocco, all you have to say is Webb has had Tomac (yes the guy with 2SX titles, 4 MX titles, 2nd winningest sx rider ever, 4th winningest MX rider ever, MxDN winner), Jett (1 SX title ,2 MX titles, 7th winningest MX rider ever, and MxDN winner), Sexton (1 SX title, 1 MX title, and MxDN winner). To find Larocco I had to get down into the 20’s of top winners to find him. I had to go to the 30’s and 60’s to find John dowd.

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I don't agree with OP here. Webb has only finished in front of the current points leader once in an abbreviated race. Webb is fully aware...

I don't agree with OP here. Webb has only finished in front of the current points leader once in an abbreviated race. Webb is fully aware that he will need to get multiple race wins like he did last year to have a grip on this.

He's got everyone covered except the guys finishing in front of him 😄

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Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career...

Ya against a weak field and Webb has arguably had to go against the most amount of top talented 450 motocross racers his whole 450 career. Best MC had was John Down and Mike Larocco. lol.we are talking about supercross in this anyway you guys sure are grabbing for straws here. 

You want to say that to Larocco’s face?

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Sure, just going off stats not opinions so no disrespect to LaRocco, all you have to say is Webb has had Tomac (yes the guy with...

Sure, just going off stats not opinions so no disrespect to LaRocco, all you have to say is Webb has had Tomac (yes the guy with 2SX titles, 4 MX titles, 2nd winningest sx rider ever, 4th winningest MX rider ever, MxDN winner), Jett (1 SX title ,2 MX titles, 7th winningest MX rider ever, and MxDN winner), Sexton (1 SX title, 1 MX title, and MxDN winner). To find Larocco I had to get down into the 20’s of top winners to find him. I had to go to the 30’s and 60’s to find John dowd.

The Rock is tied with Roczen on Motocross titles and has more than Chase does. Respect the name, brother

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number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't chokingI think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast...

number 96. dude is disciplined, mentally solid, fast. he ain't goin' away, and he ain't choking

I think Webb is too gritty and consistent, he will outlast the rest of the pack, Tomac, Sexton, Roczen, etc, but Hunter is the real problem

Luke, I love your Stoke for The Coop…I really do. And his “mental game” is a virtual Super Power.💪🏼

But, he’s got no less than 4…maybe 5…other riders he’s got to race with on a weekly basis & at times they’ve all shown the ability to get away from Coop. 

Tomac

Sexton

Roczen

Lawrence

Anderson

And…if these other two guys keep it up…they’re gonna run interference, too…as in…they’ll be in the way on days where Coop doesn’t get a decent start…especially when there’s more than NINE measly whooos…which is SOOOOOO lame…9 Whoops? What is this…Sissycross?!🤣

Stewart

Cooper

Edit: I forgot one…and people are gonna hate on this; but, Senior Jorgé Prado has got game…and he get starts…and he can sprint!

I’m jus’ sayin’…

Note: When & If Coop pulls off another one…this year…as in CHAMPIONSHIP…I’m not gonna be counted as a Non-Believer. Nope. I’m simply recognizing all the guys he’s gotta continually beat...and…if he does? Well, then…the debate begins…ph, what debate? 

To me…this looks like a VERY challenging year when compared to his previous Championships…he’ll have…actually he HAS…more truly solid contenders to deal with. Again…stoked for The Coop. 

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