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I am willing to bet nobody is more bummed over this situation then him. I am sure there are a lot of things be would like to say but can’t.
If ever on the side of a track and in pain, I’d still take Doc Bodnar as my first responder over everyone else. The guy is a class act and amazingly compassionate.
Bummer deal here.
I know this is a old post but came across it and want to add as I see a ton of misinformation being spread. This lawsuit absolutely was necessary and fair. The were suing due to the negligence on the actions of the medical response not just the initial injury. I am a EMT and have a incomplete c5 spinal cord injury and partially paralyzed so I have some personal insight. What the medical response did after he crashed was so outside of the standard of care for the mechanism of injury and his stated symptoms.
So most people do not understand spinal cord injuries at all. They are all different. Two people can have the injury in the same place and one be confined to a chair and the other able to walk. So the reason such strict protocols are in place for spinal precautions is you have no way of telling the severity and if there is a unstable break in the spine, further movement can continue to crush the spinal cord and kill more nerves.
So for example maybe he initially just had a injury that paralyzed one leg or that he could have recovered from eventually. Them deciding not to immobilize him and literally carrying him and moving him made the unstable bones shift and the injury significantly worse. That’s why you should never ever move someone after complaints of that nature. They absolutely deserved to be sued into oblivion for this.
Insurance companies subrogate. So if brians insurance paid him and claim, but feld was at fault, they would subrogate that claim with felds insurance.
You’re still in my thoughts, Brian. Hope you’re doing much, much better
What happened to Brian still turns my stomach, to this day I can’t figure out WTF the medical team were thinking. Praying for the best for him
The craziest part to me is it happened at his first race, if I’m not mistaken wasnt it actually during qualifying before his first ever race in the us? Never even got a chance, so sad. He was a very fast up and comer who was primed to take the torch as the next french rider to move to the us and ascend to the top step of the sport. Today hed probably be in the 450 class. So unfortunate.
I think it was the first session of the day - so first session at his first race. Sucks.
Wasn't he supposed to go to KTM in 2019 but he was still under contract so then they signed Tom Vialle instead?
I believe it was the first lap of his first ever practice, which is devastating. I wish he could’ve got a chance over there, he was a hell of a rider on his day when I saw him
Did everyone forget how they moved Austin Forkner after his supercross crash two years ago? Any medical team sponsored by FELD/AMA are completely negligent. They hire the cheapest employees they can find. It's a shame that the people in charge are people who never raced and have no medical experience. We need the best physician to be in charge of selecting our first responders.
Was this when a few of his organs where screwed and PC downplayed it and said it would be a few weeks out but he was months out?
Pit Row
@ML512 - can you comment as to anything you know of the lawsuit, and additionally if any coverage of this trial/verdict is expected soon? Thanks.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Posted in the other thread also :
Matthes just posted on X " I didn't even know the trial had even started in the case of Feld/medics Vs Brian Moreau for his crash. But its over and the jury is deliberating as we speak"
We all saw him splat on the concrete and look dead, then they pulled him up instead of putting him on a backboard. We might not know what we are talking about but we sure know what we saw…
Right, we all saw that but none of us were part of the rider assessment. Backboarding for mechanism stopped being a thing decades ago. It is not in emt/medic textbooks. Protocols for EMTs and Medics(national, state, metro-wide, city and county) are written to include backboarding for suspected injuries with findings of pain along the centerline of the neck and spine and/or suspected deficits that come from spinal injury. Have you ever backboarded a patient? Have you ever tried to backboard an aggressive young male who doesn’t want it? Those providers don’t get to backboard someone just because they think they should or want to. The patient(rider in this case) has to be agreeable and willing. In a lot of cases with young males participating in sports, they want to walk off the field under their own power, despite receiving medical recommendations otherwise. Sometimes that’s the best option as a provider even if you don’t agree with the decision. I don’t know if that is the case with Forkner but he had several providers with him for a few minutes before he walked off with assistance.
As for the medical staff, you have no idea what goes into the hiring process. You have no idea who is providing care and what their qualifications are. You have no idea of the countless hours of initial and continuing education are required for them to maintain their certifications and licenses. Have you ever looked into what Doc B(edit: and his staff) does for this sport year in and year out? Those providers know not only the racers but also the families. They travel to the same races and see the young men week in and week out. They have personal and professional interest in keeping these riders as healthy as they can. Stop shitting on them because you think a rider should have spinal immobilization even though you have no medical training or took part in the assessment. It’s ok to question stuff. People make mistakes and that’s how you get better, learn from past experiences. You don’t have to be a asshat about it though. Why don’t you just say thanks for trying to make this sport safer?
I didn't read all 5 pages of this thread, and I know I'll get downvotes like no tomorrow for this, but after seeing the video of the handling he was subjected to a few years ago I read up some on the topic. The old strap them down and immobilize them mentality is definitely getting challenged by new research, and guidelines in other countries are being updated. It was a few years ago and my memory isn't fresh but if I recall correctly the statistics on permanent disability aren't any different when moved prior to stabilization vs stabilized. It looked bad, I totally get the emotional response, and that it probably caused additional pain, but some of the more modern guidelines emphasize moving to a safer location over stabilizing and bracing first.
How can you trust someone who just crashed with a possible head injury and aren’t in a clear state of mind? Your response is awfully long to complete shit.
You don’t. That wasn’t part of the conversation. Plus, those providers are pretty up to date on their concussion protocols. The dads coaching t-ball have to have that as basic training,
Always having advancements in technology and change in protocols. The old ways may be getting challenged but we have all heard of instances where bone fragments have caused cord damage. If it’s me, a loved one or friend I’m advocating for minimal movement until a thorough assessment can be performed. A little more than “you ok to get up bro?” And I could be mistaken, but I thought it was reported that Moreau had pleaded for them to not move him?
Yeah..... don't really have the energy to get too into this again tonight...... but not now, not then, not at any point has it been OK to bear hug someone who can't support their own weight and drag them around like a rag doll after trauma.
They might have all the letters after their name, might have some rationale for why they did it (that they likely testified to in the past week but nobody covered it, so who knows....) but these pictures are hard to explain away when you know the guy they're dragging around never took another step.......
any update on trial outcome?
Really sad to see these pictures capture a life altering event.
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