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Which means Deegan just lost to the winner of the Over-30 class?
Exactly. It doesn’t matter how good he did before or how good he does going forward, what he did this past summer was just unprofessional. He not only quit on his team but he also quit on his fans that paid to see him race.
For people who has ever worked with or around engineers knows this is probably the case. I was an autocad designer and had to put up with them for 15 years. 9/10 would rather let a project go down in flames than use a simple solution they didn’t come up with.
Unfortunately that attitude is not confined to engineers.
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THEY ALL LEFT.
Nobody bags on Max more than i do for doing the Feeder class, and racing half the guys in half the races.
But the fact that he can win at 32 shows the real level of the class IMO.
What would you be agreeing with? I just stated some facts. Which one is wrong? I didn't put out any opinion that you need to agree with.
If you are good with Prado's actions and how he left, then awesome. If you're not, cool. Some actions might bother some people more than others. doesn't make either one wrong.
The misinformation and assumption of fact from the people here is much more bothersome. At least to me. Is everyone practicing for their mainstream media gig or something?
No offense, but working with draftsmen as an engineer is the most painful thing in the world. Let me guess, you came up with all of their solutions for them, right?
I really don’t see the whiner/airs his dirty laundry out in public. He would often stay really vague and say “this bike is not capable of winning” rather than going into complete detail, which I’d argue is more professional. By this definition Sexton and Webb would also be guilty of airing their dirty laundry
Battling unknown Rookies for wins last year to over 30's this year in SX... 450 guys must be shaking in their boots.
Yes but they never gave up and continued to put in effort and perform. RV and Tomac still won championships.
Leaving is not unusual. Aside from RV everyone leaves at some stage.
Giving up or not wanting to risk yourself as bad as it sounds is not acceptable. Why? Because everyone else, INCLUDING PRIVATEERS on lesser equipment is risking it.
I won’t argue that. Seems like 7 out of 10 draftsmen are pretty lousy at their job.
To answer your smart ass question. No I was usually not the one who came up with the solution.
"fact"
You seem to know all the facts, would be great if you can substantiate them
Do happen to work for the team or prado,
Privateers have to for a paycheck, Prado doesn’t, that’s where the extra drive to take unnecessary risks come from.
So whats your point? Prado is already getting paid heaps so he's not risking it? Just collecting cheques for participating while privateers were battling and sometimes beating him just to make enough money to go to the next round? Man that makes him sound even worse.
These guys are quite literally risking their lives every time they suit up & hit the gate. You expect George to risk his life on equipment he has no confidence in? He didn’t quit - minus the non qualify @ budds, he just backed it down to a pace he was comfortable going on the equipment he was on, you want him to risk his life for corporate kawi and the fans??? These guys are only human. I’m a Kawi guy through & through and don’t believe it’s the bike, even after a disastrous A1.
Just highlighting this post as I didn't know about it and think it's worth more than a thumbs up.
I don't know how much disadvantage a 350 at that time was, but that seems really cool.
No real disadvantage imo, other than not as much testing on it in SX obviously. I think Alessi rode it too in 2010-2011.
Another 350 fun fact for a lot of people that don't know or never watched MXGP back then: Cairoli actually won 5x straight MXGP titles on the KTM 350 from 2010-2014. There were heavy speculations in the pits during those years if his bike had more power than it's supposed to have but those have never become true.
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As opposed to Jett battling the likes of Pierce Brown, Oldenburg, and Enzo Lopez in 2022 and 2023?
Why is everything about Jett with you? Thought you were a deegan super duper fanboi.
Keep cherry picking. Forgetting Hampshire, kitchen, forkner, jmart ( yes he had a good start one year)and Mcadoo
Oh and if you want to compare: Jett had already 13 250SX wins before turning 20 years old.
Your „boy“ turned 20 just a few days ago.
Ok he might’ve not literally quit but he sure quit trying
How deep are you supposed to dig if you feel like you might have a massive off and fuck the next few years of your career or worse….. he was still pulling top 10’s at nationals while being uncomfortable. That’s trying in my book.
I do want to compare. Jett entered the pro ranks at an earlier age than Deegan so comparing age to wins in not comparing apples to apples. If you compare the seasons up to their 4th season at A1, Jett would have 8 to Deegan's 7.
Happy for Prado. I’m not one of those guys who want to damn him for last year.
Something to keep in mind for context: my memory may be failing me but I believe Tomac went down in a tangle with Weimar early in the heat race at his first 450 SX, maybe first lap, damaged his shoulder and missed the main rounds before coming back still recovering. His first 450 SX season basically was toast.
Again, my memory may be off. As a fan of great racing great to see Prado in form.
Yup, 2014 Tomac injured at A1, came back at A3, wallowed for a few rounds, and then podiumed at Indy, his fifth race that season after coming back from the injury. Missed the first four rounds and podiumed at the 9th.
One of the two grew up on an SX track. The other spent most of his Amateur days in Europe and hit his first set of whoops about a year before turning pro.
Sounds like you're not dealing with that very well! Jett got to train with Stefan Everts, Roczen's dad, and then Johnny O'Mara (google him).
The idea that he never rode whoops before coming to America is bonkers!
You all up in here acting like Jett was some amateur before coming to America, and Deegan was a seasoned veteran on full blown supercross tracks by the age of 4. It's clear to me, and I would suppose most of those reading this, that you are very biased against a young and talented Haiden Deegan.
This place is absolutely ridiculous.
Just to be clear, does the Prado story destroy the narrative that SX/MX is 90% riders and only 10% machinery? And the other narrative of how the top riders could line up on stock bikes and make the top 10? Or the one that says that you can mix the top riders bikes amongst each other and the results wouldn’t change much?
Or does it simply point out that Prado simply wasn’t motivated towards the end of the season, whether to spite the Kawi team or any other reason?
McGrath was made promises when he moved to KTM. He gave 100% and dislocated his hip and called it a career. I have no problem if Prado chose to try less than 100% to stay off the ground. He has the rest of his career ahead of him.
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