Arm pump relief that works finally

alphado wrote:

Rotating arms while jerking off works too.

3strokemx wrote:

What are the ingredients of the Beehive blend product? I can't seem to find it published.Arm pump can have multiple causes, which is why certain strategies...

What are the ingredients of the Beehive blend product? I can't seem to find it published.

Arm pump can have multiple causes, which is why certain strategies work for some people but not for others.
Causes
1.Bike Set Up
2. Psychological
3. Physiological 

1.Bike Set Up,
Typically a stock / neutral setup is the best starting place. Grip diameter, bar position, lever position are easy to change and will have an impact on your balance and control of the bike.  For example, grips too large you will be hanging on with your fingers more than your hand. Bars too far forward and you are steering with your arms instead of leaning your body.  

2.Psychological,
This is when people try too hard and succumb to the adrenaline in the moment. The adrenaline spike leads to riding tight, shortened breath, and making mistakes which require even more strength for correction. Especially common early in the season or when returning from injury. Or when riding over your head during a race or challenging track.

The remedy for this is to put yourself into the riding/racing situation more frequently. The more accustomed you are to the situation the less adrenaline will cloud your judgement and movements. Eventually you'll be able to push hard and ride aggressively without the pump.

It can helps to make an effort at relaxing your fingers in the air (before you pump up) and remind yourself to breathe normally.  

You also can try riding at 90%, you'll likely not get arm pump as quickly and your lap times will still be really close, maybe even better.

Placebo helps a lot too!  There's nothing wrong with relying on a placebo, if it works it works.  However, it's possible to induce arm pump with placebo too!


3. Physiological,
This is your body's ability to function.
Training helps because it improves the rate that you can buffer the by-products of intense work. If you build more arm strength then you can go longer before accumulating lactic acid and the other by-products. If you do cardio exercise then you can more efficiently buffer the lactic acid and other by-products.  

Diet helps to allow your body to function optimally; you'll want to Avoid Processed foods and seed oils.  The Weston A Price foundation has the best real health information I've come across. It's free and no BS. 
 Developing a strong gut microbiome allows your body to operate efficiently including Buffering Lactic Acid and other by-products more efficiently, and also endocrine function so your hormones respond appropriately. This will not only help you be able to respond to physical stressors (arm pump) but also prevent you from getting sick, and it'll make your brain work better, better mood, better sleep, etc.

That being said, in the short term, supplementing with a little baking soda (mixed in water) will help buffer lactic acid for many people. It's not as effective as having a good diet, but it's cheap and easy to try. Don't add too much Baking Soda or you'll shit your pants.

Magnesium is helpful for some people because most standard American diets are deficient in magnesium. Not having all of the building blocks is going to result in dysregulation.

The newest thing is broccoli shots (drinks) and it could work because broccoli quickly establishes beneficial gut bacteria to help better absorb nutrients. 

Structure is the final piece of the puzzle. 
Injuries and medical intervention such as metal plates can negatively impact your musculoskeletal structure and cellular function. This can cause extra effort required for an action, compensating by using "the wrong" muscles, and disruptions to your cellular function (causing slower buffering efficiency). 

Sometimes inserting hardware is your best option depending on the nature of the injury, I'm not totally against it.

Once your diet is good, and you're in decent shape, then it would be prudent to Identify and correct any structural deficiencies. 
Common strategies that help: Chiropractic, Yoga, Physical Therapy, Building core strength (lower back pain and hernias are very common, core strength protects you),  The goal is the restore your body to as close to optimal physical structure as possible.  This results in improving your baseline buffering efficiency AND reducing extra energy requirements or muscle recruitments to complete tasks. For example, using your arms to help stand from a chair, and controlling the bike with your arms instead of your legs, core, and arms together  This is why Technique adjustment is a popular solution to arm pump, but without an adequate balance and function of your body, you'll always struggle to attain improved technique.

Less common strategies: Removing metal in your body and reducing exposure to Electro Magnetic Radiation.
Your body is electro-chemical, disrupting the current will causes poor cellular function.  This is why dehydration is known to derail performance, you don't have the proper ration of electrolytes to function.   
For the less sophisticated, remember when you were a kid and it was "fun" to bite down with a tooth filling on a foil gum wrapper? Where does the electric shock come from?

The metal in your body will alter the electrical flow of cellular energy and so will exposure to EMR (Wifi router, cell phone, smart appliances, etc.).
You want to minimize EMR as much as possible so that your cells can stay tuned to the natural frequencies of the Earth. 
Disrupting your cellular energy will slow your rate of Buffering and slow/disrupt your balance and reactions to the motorcycle, both outcomes increase your susceptibility to arm pump.
Something as simple as going barefoot on occasion and turning off your phone and router at night could make a big difference.

 

Boomslang wrote:

Where you get that story from? ChatGpt?

3strokemx wrote:

What are the ingredients of the Beehive blend product? I can't seem to find it published.Arm pump can have multiple causes, which is why certain strategies...

What are the ingredients of the Beehive blend product? I can't seem to find it published.

Arm pump can have multiple causes, which is why certain strategies work for some people but not for others.
Causes
1.Bike Set Up
2. Psychological
3. Physiological 

1.Bike Set Up,
Typically a stock / neutral setup is the best starting place. Grip diameter, bar position, lever position are easy to change and will have an impact on your balance and control of the bike.  For example, grips too large you will be hanging on with your fingers more than your hand. Bars too far forward and you are steering with your arms instead of leaning your body.  

2.Psychological,
This is when people try too hard and succumb to the adrenaline in the moment. The adrenaline spike leads to riding tight, shortened breath, and making mistakes which require even more strength for correction. Especially common early in the season or when returning from injury. Or when riding over your head during a race or challenging track.

The remedy for this is to put yourself into the riding/racing situation more frequently. The more accustomed you are to the situation the less adrenaline will cloud your judgement and movements. Eventually you'll be able to push hard and ride aggressively without the pump.

It can helps to make an effort at relaxing your fingers in the air (before you pump up) and remind yourself to breathe normally.  

You also can try riding at 90%, you'll likely not get arm pump as quickly and your lap times will still be really close, maybe even better.

Placebo helps a lot too!  There's nothing wrong with relying on a placebo, if it works it works.  However, it's possible to induce arm pump with placebo too!


3. Physiological,
This is your body's ability to function.
Training helps because it improves the rate that you can buffer the by-products of intense work. If you build more arm strength then you can go longer before accumulating lactic acid and the other by-products. If you do cardio exercise then you can more efficiently buffer the lactic acid and other by-products.  

Diet helps to allow your body to function optimally; you'll want to Avoid Processed foods and seed oils.  The Weston A Price foundation has the best real health information I've come across. It's free and no BS. 
 Developing a strong gut microbiome allows your body to operate efficiently including Buffering Lactic Acid and other by-products more efficiently, and also endocrine function so your hormones respond appropriately. This will not only help you be able to respond to physical stressors (arm pump) but also prevent you from getting sick, and it'll make your brain work better, better mood, better sleep, etc.

That being said, in the short term, supplementing with a little baking soda (mixed in water) will help buffer lactic acid for many people. It's not as effective as having a good diet, but it's cheap and easy to try. Don't add too much Baking Soda or you'll shit your pants.

Magnesium is helpful for some people because most standard American diets are deficient in magnesium. Not having all of the building blocks is going to result in dysregulation.

The newest thing is broccoli shots (drinks) and it could work because broccoli quickly establishes beneficial gut bacteria to help better absorb nutrients. 

Structure is the final piece of the puzzle. 
Injuries and medical intervention such as metal plates can negatively impact your musculoskeletal structure and cellular function. This can cause extra effort required for an action, compensating by using "the wrong" muscles, and disruptions to your cellular function (causing slower buffering efficiency). 

Sometimes inserting hardware is your best option depending on the nature of the injury, I'm not totally against it.

Once your diet is good, and you're in decent shape, then it would be prudent to Identify and correct any structural deficiencies. 
Common strategies that help: Chiropractic, Yoga, Physical Therapy, Building core strength (lower back pain and hernias are very common, core strength protects you),  The goal is the restore your body to as close to optimal physical structure as possible.  This results in improving your baseline buffering efficiency AND reducing extra energy requirements or muscle recruitments to complete tasks. For example, using your arms to help stand from a chair, and controlling the bike with your arms instead of your legs, core, and arms together  This is why Technique adjustment is a popular solution to arm pump, but without an adequate balance and function of your body, you'll always struggle to attain improved technique.

Less common strategies: Removing metal in your body and reducing exposure to Electro Magnetic Radiation.
Your body is electro-chemical, disrupting the current will causes poor cellular function.  This is why dehydration is known to derail performance, you don't have the proper ration of electrolytes to function.   
For the less sophisticated, remember when you were a kid and it was "fun" to bite down with a tooth filling on a foil gum wrapper? Where does the electric shock come from?

The metal in your body will alter the electrical flow of cellular energy and so will exposure to EMR (Wifi router, cell phone, smart appliances, etc.).
You want to minimize EMR as much as possible so that your cells can stay tuned to the natural frequencies of the Earth. 
Disrupting your cellular energy will slow your rate of Buffering and slow/disrupt your balance and reactions to the motorcycle, both outcomes increase your susceptibility to arm pump.
Something as simple as going barefoot on occasion and turning off your phone and router at night could make a big difference.

 

alphado wrote:

Rotating arms while jerking off works too.

Bearuno wrote:

Anyone remember that thing that Baker promoted?

That seems to have disappeared.

45ACP wrote:

Bro nobody's reading all that shit

RaceFan wrote:

Will this work for a 6’2” 200lb ex-pro who is pretty ripped?

RaceFan wrote:

Will this work for a 6’2” 200lb ex-pro who is pretty ripped?

alphado wrote:

Rotating arms while jerking off works too.

3strokemx wrote:

What are the ingredients of the Beehive blend product? I can't seem to find it published.Arm pump can have multiple causes, which is why certain strategies...

What are the ingredients of the Beehive blend product? I can't seem to find it published.

Arm pump can have multiple causes, which is why certain strategies work for some people but not for others.
Causes
1.Bike Set Up
2. Psychological
3. Physiological 

1.Bike Set Up,
Typically a stock / neutral setup is the best starting place. Grip diameter, bar position, lever position are easy to change and will have an impact on your balance and control of the bike.  For example, grips too large you will be hanging on with your fingers more than your hand. Bars too far forward and you are steering with your arms instead of leaning your body.  

2.Psychological,
This is when people try too hard and succumb to the adrenaline in the moment. The adrenaline spike leads to riding tight, shortened breath, and making mistakes which require even more strength for correction. Especially common early in the season or when returning from injury. Or when riding over your head during a race or challenging track.

The remedy for this is to put yourself into the riding/racing situation more frequently. The more accustomed you are to the situation the less adrenaline will cloud your judgement and movements. Eventually you'll be able to push hard and ride aggressively without the pump.

It can helps to make an effort at relaxing your fingers in the air (before you pump up) and remind yourself to breathe normally.  

You also can try riding at 90%, you'll likely not get arm pump as quickly and your lap times will still be really close, maybe even better.

Placebo helps a lot too!  There's nothing wrong with relying on a placebo, if it works it works.  However, it's possible to induce arm pump with placebo too!


3. Physiological,
This is your body's ability to function.
Training helps because it improves the rate that you can buffer the by-products of intense work. If you build more arm strength then you can go longer before accumulating lactic acid and the other by-products. If you do cardio exercise then you can more efficiently buffer the lactic acid and other by-products.  

Diet helps to allow your body to function optimally; you'll want to Avoid Processed foods and seed oils.  The Weston A Price foundation has the best real health information I've come across. It's free and no BS. 
 Developing a strong gut microbiome allows your body to operate efficiently including Buffering Lactic Acid and other by-products more efficiently, and also endocrine function so your hormones respond appropriately. This will not only help you be able to respond to physical stressors (arm pump) but also prevent you from getting sick, and it'll make your brain work better, better mood, better sleep, etc.

That being said, in the short term, supplementing with a little baking soda (mixed in water) will help buffer lactic acid for many people. It's not as effective as having a good diet, but it's cheap and easy to try. Don't add too much Baking Soda or you'll shit your pants.

Magnesium is helpful for some people because most standard American diets are deficient in magnesium. Not having all of the building blocks is going to result in dysregulation.

The newest thing is broccoli shots (drinks) and it could work because broccoli quickly establishes beneficial gut bacteria to help better absorb nutrients. 

Structure is the final piece of the puzzle. 
Injuries and medical intervention such as metal plates can negatively impact your musculoskeletal structure and cellular function. This can cause extra effort required for an action, compensating by using "the wrong" muscles, and disruptions to your cellular function (causing slower buffering efficiency). 

Sometimes inserting hardware is your best option depending on the nature of the injury, I'm not totally against it.

Once your diet is good, and you're in decent shape, then it would be prudent to Identify and correct any structural deficiencies. 
Common strategies that help: Chiropractic, Yoga, Physical Therapy, Building core strength (lower back pain and hernias are very common, core strength protects you),  The goal is the restore your body to as close to optimal physical structure as possible.  This results in improving your baseline buffering efficiency AND reducing extra energy requirements or muscle recruitments to complete tasks. For example, using your arms to help stand from a chair, and controlling the bike with your arms instead of your legs, core, and arms together  This is why Technique adjustment is a popular solution to arm pump, but without an adequate balance and function of your body, you'll always struggle to attain improved technique.

Less common strategies: Removing metal in your body and reducing exposure to Electro Magnetic Radiation.
Your body is electro-chemical, disrupting the current will causes poor cellular function.  This is why dehydration is known to derail performance, you don't have the proper ration of electrolytes to function.   
For the less sophisticated, remember when you were a kid and it was "fun" to bite down with a tooth filling on a foil gum wrapper? Where does the electric shock come from?

The metal in your body will alter the electrical flow of cellular energy and so will exposure to EMR (Wifi router, cell phone, smart appliances, etc.).
You want to minimize EMR as much as possible so that your cells can stay tuned to the natural frequencies of the Earth. 
Disrupting your cellular energy will slow your rate of Buffering and slow/disrupt your balance and reactions to the motorcycle, both outcomes increase your susceptibility to arm pump.
Something as simple as going barefoot on occasion and turning off your phone and router at night could make a big difference.

 

RDnutz wrote:

what messages does the machine give you?