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It is possible ktm will eventually switch to kyb/showa as a result of the cost cutting…
I don't see how buying someone else's suspension is cheaper than using the brand you own. But if the development costs are higher than just buying suspension then maybe so.
Unless WP is not a profitable company and Bajaj decides to sell/shut it down in an effort to reduce “overheads”.
https://www.visordown.com/news/ktm-cancels-gasgas-motorcycle-production…
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AFAIK the only Gasgas motorcycles that were made in Spain were trials. MX, enduro and the like were already made in Austria.
Buying kyb just piggybacks on the development already being done for Yamaha/beta/triumph. Adding another customer could allow kyb to lower the cost slightly.
I know how these corporate cost cutters work. The first thing they like to do is outsource. You have to pay wp salaries no matter what the business conditions are. If sales are down ktm would just buy less kyb parts. The overheads from wp are there whether bike sales are up or down. The additional competition from Triumph and Ducati will affect all existing manufacturers market share. Ktm needs to be sized for their market share. Even a company as big as Kawasaki uses kyb/showa instead of building their own suspension.
Depending on what kyb would sell parts to ktm for it might be cheaper than wp. People generally don’t care what suspension is on their bike or they consider kyb superior. Even people who like wp aren’t going to stop buying ktms if they switch to kyb.
I dont really have a dog in the fight, but it doesn't help your argument when it's a crappy AI photo. Don't know how people don't notice these things.
KTM moving to Seattle?
KTM will be sold off as a brand, and will all be produced as PENTON in the future ! That makes it a better motorbike without any other changes.
unfortunately some dirt bag owns the penton name and is selling Chinese GPX bikes under the penton name.
His ownership of the Penton name is highly debatable.
Which I assume sadly ends the story of one of the premier makes in Trials bikes.
More cutbacks coming. KTM MotoGP team is going to.be hit hard.
Here - https://www.motogpnews.com/2025/11/01/bajaj-selling-ktm-to-a-big-name-f…
https://capetimes.co.za/motoring/bikes/2025-10-30-ktm-slashes-half-of-w…
"Bajaj now intends to rename Pierer Bajaj to Bajaj Mobility".
That's not quite right...
Yup
That headline is not just misleading it is false and typical of sensationalistic uninformed media....The headline states that KTM is slashing its work by half and then in the article they say it's half the white collar workforce....not quite the same, but there will be many that will believe the 50% workforce cuts are true when it is not....the truth is there 4,000 employees 3,000 of which are white collar so they are cutting 1,500 of 4,000....not 50%
Thanks for enlighten me. Its Becoming real real to find reliable info out there.
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I've put the exact quote on the previous page 😉
What do you feel is not right in renaming Pierer Mobility? The guy saved the brand and build it into something huge for over 2 decades, yet he's also responsible for becoming so close to killing it that Bajaj had to inject hundreds of millions and buy all Pierer shares for the brand to survive. Pierer doesn't have any stakes in it anymore, now it's Bajaj turn to take the wheel and we'll see what they can do with it. It's still a win considering the alternative was running it into the ground.
Does Bajaj make any high performance products of any type currently? I’m not familiar at all with Bajaj. Do they currently make any high performance cars, for instance?
https://www.bajajauto.com
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Bajaj takeover got greenlit by the EU a couple of days ago. Renaming Pierer Mobility Group into Bajaj Mobility Groups should happen after next week Extraordinary General Meeting (November 19th).
Now the future in racing points heavily towards CFMoto who is currently discussing with KTM to either buy the MotoGP racing team or even buy the whole entity of KTM racing.
CFMoto are already invested in motorsports, they've been racing in Moto3 on a rebadged (or, depending who you ask, co-developped) KTM, they're already world champions, they're also developing their own V4 to compete in World Superbikes, they're much more into racing than Bajaj.
I’m not sure it has anything to do with motocross at this point, but it does appear that CF-Moto replacing KTM on the MotoGP grid is imminent.
What are the sources for this?
https://www.gpone.com/en/2025/11/11/motogp/cfmoto-wants-to-take-over-ktms-motogp-project.html#:~:text=MotoGP:%20Chinese%20motorcycle%20manufacturer%20CFMOTO%20won%20the,MotoGP%20by%20taking%20over%20the%20KTM%20project.
I saw it on a few different MotoGP sites.
It's official, Bajaj owns 74.9% of PMG soon to be renamed Bajaj Mobility Group.
https://www.pierermobility.com/en/newsroom/eqsfeed/909896411
"Intensive dialogue with the specialized dealer network will enable KTM to better align production planning with market demand in the future."
That's quite the euphemism.
"the reduction of inventory is progressing better than expected. By the end of the year, global inventory is anticipated to be down by 110,000 motorcycles."
That's big yet probably not even half of it at the beginning of restructuring.
So when it was ran out of Austria they weren’t talking to the regional offices to figure out how many of each model to build? If so that change alone will probably significantly improve profitability. I guess that explains some of the complaints about dealers being forced to take unpopular models in order to get more of the models that sell well.
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