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Why not get a 690? Looks like same weight.
This would be a perfect lightweight adventure bike. However:
Like 1983YZ125 said, why is it so heavy?
Also, why don't they give it real brakes, suspension, frame, etc like the 690 has? The 690 is closer to a dirt bike than a street bike, and this is the exact opposite.
Why didn’t they put the front brake caliper/rotor on the correct side????
Is this just a more road oriented dual sport thing? I feel like I'd rather have a KLX300 or CRF300L
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They did test the Adventure R which is 11 kg heavier and more expensive than the Enduro R but most comments should still be relevant.
I love my old '15 model. The newer ones have a good bit more power!
I'd rather rebuild a 2000/2007 400 EXC.
Great bikes. The old RFS engine was a work horse.
Is KTM's future more bikes made by Bajaj?
It's very much built to a price point and based heavily on a street bike platform.
I think the best way to get a good dualsport these days us to wait until the previous year's Betas are on sale.
Where would the Betas sit in terms of maintenance, more on the enduro-side of things like the 690 or more like dual sports/street bikes like the 390?
From what I see, if you get through the first 5 hours the Betas are solid. Some electrical gremlins might show up initially but once those are worked through (or don’t show up) you are go to go
Thanks, I was thinking more about the engine maintenance, like a 390 (or the Tenere OP currently rides) you can put thousand of miles without ever needing to touch it, just street bike stuff like oil change once in a while.
Pretty squarely in the Enduro category unfortunately in terms of maintenance, but I think it's worth it. A lot of the true low maintenance dualsports compromise a lot on the dirtbike side. I own a DRZ and I love it, but it's heavy, has a pretty bad gear spread for tight woods stuff, and could use a few extra ponies.
Depending on how you ride, you also don't need to follow the maintenance schedule to the letter. Most of these endro bred plated bikes have a maintenance schedule that assumes you'll be racing. You can stretch the intervals a little bit.
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Now that's what a trail bike should be.
Not an overweight, underpowered, undersuspended (and actually overpriced for what it is) indian fake KTM.
Exactly. I bought a leftover 430rr recently for $8K out the door. It was easy enough to plate. I put 1200 miles on it in the first two months, basically changing the oil and air filter after every ride or two, pretty simple stuff. The bike has been rock solid, I put PHDS bar mounts with twisted engineering bars, UHD tubes, some Acerbis engine guards on it and it is good to go. It is OK on the road for 10-20 miles, not much more, will do any single track my TE250 does, and has a great powerband - no stalls, hiccups, or flameouts like alot of the KTMs, and Hondas we ride with. I will put a two tooth bigger sprocket on the back, maybe an XC gear Scotts mount, maybe a bigger tank, but it is flawless for the dual sport riding we do in the Allegheny mountains, which is trails connected with hundreds of miles of forest roads, logging paths, and gas lines.
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A motorcycle at double the price is actually better, got it, thanks for the heads up.
I actually like the Tenere. It just gets top heavy in the tight stuff. I have a Beta 400RR, I should probably ride that more. Put 180 miles on the T7 yesterday in the mountains.
Between the two bikes I should be happy. Sometimes my mind wanders and I start looking at new bikes.
No doubt this sport is expensive. I went the "adventure bike" route for a while, KTM 1190 Adventurer, later after the Katoom betrayed me a Beemer GS. I have had KTM/Husky TE/XC/XCW two strokes all along as well for serious trail work. I abandoned the adventurer bikes because their capabilities and weight made me question my safety on them 30 miles in the middle of nowhere forest roads. And even mild tip overs could result in expensive repairs. They are not dirt bikes, and they are a compromise on the street as well. If I am going to be involved in an inherently dangerous sport, I feel I need the most comfortable, capable bike for what I am doing. These new adventure 'lite" bikes, like the KTM, Royal Enfield, CF Moto are all around 350 lbs. at least and all are built to a price point, if I see a potential trail off a forest road I don't know if I would explore with something of that nature, of course just forest roads/two track/ light trails should be OK on them. At this point in my life, if I am going to ride, I want the proper bike for what I am doing rather than something of a compromised capability. A F900XR for the street, the TE250 for trails, and the Beta for my kind of dual sport riding. Riding is expensive, but the improper bike can put you in the hospital, and that is really expensive. And used bikes can really help with the expense problem.
Thanks for playing dumb.
Half of what's on this precise bike is just there for the "factory looks". You take a stock one (350, 400, 450, 500, 520, 525, 530) from any year since 00 (which is exactly what I first advised), and you'll get the same result: way better than that 390.
I would imagine the 390 is around $8k out the door. You can buy a pretty clean used bike for that, I paid that for my leftover Beta.
A friend just picked one of these up and he's had nothing but problems with it. The latest was a malfunctioning side stand switch. Multiple times he has been left stranded miles from civilization on dirt roads. It could be he has a lemon and it's isolated issue but I would not consider one based on his experience.
Love that they made a new bike with the 390. It's more aimed at beginners and being affordable people gotta realize. I've ridden them all. Tenere was my choice for atv trails,railbeds,and short adv/dual sport riding. Honestly more confidence offroad on this then my last crf450rl. Although if KTM does a tower on the 690/701 I'm probably trading my bike in asap love that the changed them up this year giving them a display with sweet tech.
This about sums up most if not all of us.
Not advocating, but it always seems odd that this gets left out of a lot of these conversations, especially at the $7k asking price.
389 pounds with a 7.4 gallon tank filled up.
The side stand issue is common across all KTM models, and has been for a long time. Can get a bypass dongle
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