Jorge Prado "It was a very tough season to say the least. Cruising around every single race..."

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And for all the talk about Eli leaving because Kawasaki was inflexible on bike setup, the fact remains that in 4 years now on the Yamaha...

And for all the talk about Eli leaving because Kawasaki was inflexible on bike setup, the fact remains that in 4 years now on the Yamaha, he’s only won 2 titles compared to 4 titles in 6 years on the Kawasaki.  Maybe those engineers actually knew more than he thought they did.  It will be interesting to see if he can get back to his winning ways on the KTM.

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Ifs and buts but freak injury robbed him of at least one title. 

Honestly I think he would have gotten it this year also if it weren’t for the leg. 

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Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll...

Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. 

We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll be a long road to recover it for the green team. 

Ac couldn’t keep it upright.
JA did nothing on it. 
Prado did nothing on it. 

If Chase can’t win on it like he could the Honda & the Pumpkin, then it’s f*cked.

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Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

And for all the talk about Eli leaving because Kawasaki was inflexible on bike setup, the fact remains that in 4 years now on the Yamaha...

And for all the talk about Eli leaving because Kawasaki was inflexible on bike setup, the fact remains that in 4 years now on the Yamaha, he’s only won 2 titles compared to 4 titles in 6 years on the Kawasaki.  Maybe those engineers actually knew more than he thought they did.  It will be interesting to see if he can get back to his winning ways on the KTM.

Exactly!! 

Beast mode started on the KX when he was turning his fastest lap times at the end of the moto and smoking the field. Some on here have a short memory of what Eli did on the Kawi. He was a winning machine on that bike. Comparing Prado to Chase and Eli is an insult to them.

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Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll...

Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. 

We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll be a long road to recover it for the green team. 

Ac couldn’t keep it upright.
JA did nothing on it. 
Prado did nothing on it. 

If Chase can’t win on it like he could the Honda & the Pumpkin, then it’s f*cked.

Flatliner wrote:

Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

That was the last gen bike tho. I feel the current is inferior to the last. 

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soggy wrote:

Ifs and buts but freak injury robbed him of at least one title. 

Didn’t a broken zipper cost him a SX title?  I might be remembering that wrong, though.

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Id assume you mean the 2017 season. If I recall he had a terrible ride at East Rutherford that year and tucked the front while leading...

Id assume you mean the 2017 season. If I recall he had a terrible ride at East Rutherford that year and tucked the front while leading. He had some insane rides that year (salt lake was anll timer) but had his fair share of issues too. Some his fault some bike related. I do remember him having a fair share of issues with the Velcro closure on the sides of his pants that year. Many times in MX he would try adjust it while jumping.

Yaa I think A1 his buckle broke, maybe not 2017, but he did tuck a front and then break his buckle at one of the A1 races on a kawi. 

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Didn’t a broken zipper cost him a SX title?  I might be remembering that wrong, though.

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Id assume you mean the 2017 season. If I recall he had a terrible ride at East Rutherford that year and tucked the front while leading...

Id assume you mean the 2017 season. If I recall he had a terrible ride at East Rutherford that year and tucked the front while leading. He had some insane rides that year (salt lake was anll timer) but had his fair share of issues too. Some his fault some bike related. I do remember him having a fair share of issues with the Velcro closure on the sides of his pants that year. Many times in MX he would try adjust it while jumping.

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Yaa I think A1 his buckle broke, maybe not 2017, but he did tuck a front and then break his buckle at one of the A1...

Yaa I think A1 his buckle broke, maybe not 2017, but he did tuck a front and then break his buckle at one of the A1 races on a kawi. 

That was 2018. Then in 2019 he hurt his back in December 

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Prado quit trying so many times, it is embarrassing. That is the issue to me...and apparently with many at Kawi. As it should be.

I hope Eli wins next year, but doubtful...he is just too old now. Fact of life. 3rd-5th guy. I do think he could have won SX this year if not for the injury.

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Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll...

Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. 

We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll be a long road to recover it for the green team. 

Ac couldn’t keep it upright.
JA did nothing on it. 
Prado did nothing on it. 

If Chase can’t win on it like he could the Honda & the Pumpkin, then it’s f*cked.

Flatliner wrote:

Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

Outdoors?? 

We have to keep an open mind that a bike can be good at one discipline, but bad at another.

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Maybe he created a New phrase . Once fast never fast again.  

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Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll...

Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. 

We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll be a long road to recover it for the green team. 

Ac couldn’t keep it upright.
JA did nothing on it. 
Prado did nothing on it. 

If Chase can’t win on it like he could the Honda & the Pumpkin, then it’s f*cked.

Flatliner wrote:

Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

That was the last gen bike tho. I feel the current is inferior to the last. 

You’re right, this current gen has won very little in or out. 

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Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster...

Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster fire and should have. Now with all this drama it leads to the whole bike/ride/team conversation/narrative, that Kawasaki should have avoided at all costs. Imagine Sexton struggles next year, or Prado wins, however unlikely this would be amazingly bad press for Kawasaki. In the long run Prado has cost Kawasaki far more than his salary, for years now people (I am not stating me or anyone reading this, just generally some of the public) will associate this episode with Kawasaki regardless of any success Kawasaki has and will look to any setbacks Kawasaki has in relation to this episode. Allow me to re-explain to prevent misunderstandings, I myself realize this situation is far more complicated, but even if 10% of viewers of MX can misconstrue these events to put the brand Kawasaki in a very bad light that is hundreds of thousands of people. What has happened with this rider is very bad press for any international company's image. Does anybody in their wildest imaginations believe Chevrolet, Trek, CanAm, Caterpillar, etc. would continue to have a company spokesperson or representative who states their products are unsafe?

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Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. People close to the situation that...

Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. 

People close to the situation that know more then us have decided not to fire him, yet. 

This controversy if you want to call it that is so in the weeds most fans aren’t really that invested in it(Theres like 20 posters in this thread, it’s not an accurate representation of overall sentiment, and most people I’d wager just don’t really care). If they cut him a check to get out of the contract that will be millions of dollars.  And they’d still have to look for another rider. 
 

If Prado gets on the Austrian bike and performs better good for him and his career(he probably will because his mind will clearly be in a better place).  I’m not sure how damaging it would be to Kawi, they are hiring sexton. If he comes out and beats Prado like he usually does that should negate all the negatives about Prado leaving according to the logic being used. 

I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and Kawasaki should prolong this public drama? Honest question.

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Prado had shoulder surgery at the end of January and was back riding in April.  He says he is fit and hasn't said counter but any chance he is masking a nagging shoulder problem?   Is his previously injured shoulder compounding comfortability on the bike?  @ML512 

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Initially Prado said the bike was slow, but based on his starts, it appears that they overcame that problem.  Does anyone know what he is specifically...

Initially Prado said the bike was slow, but based on his starts, it appears that they overcame that problem.  Does anyone know what he is specifically complaining about now?  
With the KTM guys, the problems are obvious and specific (brakes that lock up in the air and shocks that fade).  I’m not sure I understand what Prado is complaining about at this point.  Is the bike not nimble enough?  Is it not stable enough?  

Been thinking the same.

KTM usa has a rear shock fade issue but KTM europe dont.

KTM had the weird brake issue too.

Dont think its going to get any better and throw in SX racing with big whoops.

Also who will the second Kawi rider be next to sexton?

8/29/2025 2:30pm
Spoonguy wrote:
Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster...

Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster fire and should have. Now with all this drama it leads to the whole bike/ride/team conversation/narrative, that Kawasaki should have avoided at all costs. Imagine Sexton struggles next year, or Prado wins, however unlikely this would be amazingly bad press for Kawasaki. In the long run Prado has cost Kawasaki far more than his salary, for years now people (I am not stating me or anyone reading this, just generally some of the public) will associate this episode with Kawasaki regardless of any success Kawasaki has and will look to any setbacks Kawasaki has in relation to this episode. Allow me to re-explain to prevent misunderstandings, I myself realize this situation is far more complicated, but even if 10% of viewers of MX can misconstrue these events to put the brand Kawasaki in a very bad light that is hundreds of thousands of people. What has happened with this rider is very bad press for any international company's image. Does anybody in their wildest imaginations believe Chevrolet, Trek, CanAm, Caterpillar, etc. would continue to have a company spokesperson or representative who states their products are unsafe?

soggy wrote:
Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. People close to the situation that...

Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. 

People close to the situation that know more then us have decided not to fire him, yet. 

This controversy if you want to call it that is so in the weeds most fans aren’t really that invested in it(Theres like 20 posters in this thread, it’s not an accurate representation of overall sentiment, and most people I’d wager just don’t really care). If they cut him a check to get out of the contract that will be millions of dollars.  And they’d still have to look for another rider. 
 

If Prado gets on the Austrian bike and performs better good for him and his career(he probably will because his mind will clearly be in a better place).  I’m not sure how damaging it would be to Kawi, they are hiring sexton. If he comes out and beats Prado like he usually does that should negate all the negatives about Prado leaving according to the logic being used. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and...

I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and Kawasaki should prolong this public drama? Honest question.

His point is, maybe the Kawasaki race team DOESN’T have the money to sack him off. 

They could ask KHI, but KHI have given them a budget to spend- now deal with it. 

8/29/2025 2:56pm
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Prado quit trying so many times, it is embarrassing. That is the issue to me...and apparently with many at Kawi. As it should be.I hope Eli...

Prado quit trying so many times, it is embarrassing. That is the issue to me...and apparently with many at Kawi. As it should be.

I hope Eli wins next year, but doubtful...he is just too old now. Fact of life. 3rd-5th guy. I do think he could have won SX this year if not for the injury.

I think Eli sat up and just rolled when he realized title wasn't coming. I know plenty of guys in cycling that were pro elite fast till past 35 in endurance sports. I think Eli is one of those genetic freaks based on his parents and past performance. 

No reason to get injured on a bike thats disappearing in a few months. But I could be totally off base. It's a guess and biased to what I want to see. 

I think KTM has a good year next year, Prado, Tomac, and AP, while Chase - bless that dude - continues his up/down struggles on a different color. 

But man - Im a racer. I want to see everyone healthy, bikes dialed, and clean gnarly dogfights every moto. 

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Spoonguy wrote:
Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster...

Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster fire and should have. Now with all this drama it leads to the whole bike/ride/team conversation/narrative, that Kawasaki should have avoided at all costs. Imagine Sexton struggles next year, or Prado wins, however unlikely this would be amazingly bad press for Kawasaki. In the long run Prado has cost Kawasaki far more than his salary, for years now people (I am not stating me or anyone reading this, just generally some of the public) will associate this episode with Kawasaki regardless of any success Kawasaki has and will look to any setbacks Kawasaki has in relation to this episode. Allow me to re-explain to prevent misunderstandings, I myself realize this situation is far more complicated, but even if 10% of viewers of MX can misconstrue these events to put the brand Kawasaki in a very bad light that is hundreds of thousands of people. What has happened with this rider is very bad press for any international company's image. Does anybody in their wildest imaginations believe Chevrolet, Trek, CanAm, Caterpillar, etc. would continue to have a company spokesperson or representative who states their products are unsafe?

soggy wrote:
Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. People close to the situation that...

Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. 

People close to the situation that know more then us have decided not to fire him, yet. 

This controversy if you want to call it that is so in the weeds most fans aren’t really that invested in it(Theres like 20 posters in this thread, it’s not an accurate representation of overall sentiment, and most people I’d wager just don’t really care). If they cut him a check to get out of the contract that will be millions of dollars.  And they’d still have to look for another rider. 
 

If Prado gets on the Austrian bike and performs better good for him and his career(he probably will because his mind will clearly be in a better place).  I’m not sure how damaging it would be to Kawi, they are hiring sexton. If he comes out and beats Prado like he usually does that should negate all the negatives about Prado leaving according to the logic being used. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and...

I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and Kawasaki should prolong this public drama? Honest question.

At this point, if it will cost them more to cut him loose than keep him, why not just wait until Chase joins the team to make him look like a squid?  He’ll probably just leave on his own at that point.  I can 100% promise that a healthy Sexton would never finish outside the top 10.

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Spoonguy wrote:
Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster...

Kawaski is a multi-national, multi-billion-dollar company, who advertises ATVs during the Super Bowl. They could have afforded to shit can Prado before this became a dumpster fire and should have. Now with all this drama it leads to the whole bike/ride/team conversation/narrative, that Kawasaki should have avoided at all costs. Imagine Sexton struggles next year, or Prado wins, however unlikely this would be amazingly bad press for Kawasaki. In the long run Prado has cost Kawasaki far more than his salary, for years now people (I am not stating me or anyone reading this, just generally some of the public) will associate this episode with Kawasaki regardless of any success Kawasaki has and will look to any setbacks Kawasaki has in relation to this episode. Allow me to re-explain to prevent misunderstandings, I myself realize this situation is far more complicated, but even if 10% of viewers of MX can misconstrue these events to put the brand Kawasaki in a very bad light that is hundreds of thousands of people. What has happened with this rider is very bad press for any international company's image. Does anybody in their wildest imaginations believe Chevrolet, Trek, CanAm, Caterpillar, etc. would continue to have a company spokesperson or representative who states their products are unsafe?

soggy wrote:
Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. People close to the situation that...

Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. 

People close to the situation that know more then us have decided not to fire him, yet. 

This controversy if you want to call it that is so in the weeds most fans aren’t really that invested in it(Theres like 20 posters in this thread, it’s not an accurate representation of overall sentiment, and most people I’d wager just don’t really care). If they cut him a check to get out of the contract that will be millions of dollars.  And they’d still have to look for another rider. 
 

If Prado gets on the Austrian bike and performs better good for him and his career(he probably will because his mind will clearly be in a better place).  I’m not sure how damaging it would be to Kawi, they are hiring sexton. If he comes out and beats Prado like he usually does that should negate all the negatives about Prado leaving according to the logic being used. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and...

I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and Kawasaki should prolong this public drama? Honest question.

Kawasaki doesn’t want to end it cause then they have to pay him. They want Prado to quit. 

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soggy wrote:
Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. People close to the situation that...

Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. 

People close to the situation that know more then us have decided not to fire him, yet. 

This controversy if you want to call it that is so in the weeds most fans aren’t really that invested in it(Theres like 20 posters in this thread, it’s not an accurate representation of overall sentiment, and most people I’d wager just don’t really care). If they cut him a check to get out of the contract that will be millions of dollars.  And they’d still have to look for another rider. 
 

If Prado gets on the Austrian bike and performs better good for him and his career(he probably will because his mind will clearly be in a better place).  I’m not sure how damaging it would be to Kawi, they are hiring sexton. If he comes out and beats Prado like he usually does that should negate all the negatives about Prado leaving according to the logic being used. 

Spoonguy wrote:
I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and...

I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and Kawasaki should prolong this public drama? Honest question.

soggy wrote:

Kawasaki doesn’t want to end it cause then they have to pay him. They want Prado to quit. 

They would just agree to mutually part ways. Kawasaki could probably fire him for cause at this point anyway. Zero chance Kawasaki has to pay anything to Prado at the separation. 

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If Prado goes to KTM and is a regular podium guy in 2026, none of this will even be remembered much after a while. 

One thing you know for sure is that if he is on KTM next year, his effort will be off the charts to do well. There will be no quit in him.

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As per a few podcasts

Kawi is keen to move on from Prado but Monster is the sticking point.

 

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8/29/2025 4:08pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2025 4:27pm
aees wrote:

What's cringy is how adults can be so offended and upset by riders giving their perspective. Typical jealousy shining through.

 

soggy wrote:
The word offended gets thrown around way too much these days it almost has no meaning.  This is a moto forum. Jorge made a stupid post...

The word offended gets thrown around way too much these days it almost has no meaning.  This is a moto forum. Jorge made a stupid post and posters are just cutting through the bullshit. He comes off as an arrogant and unwilling to admit his part in his lackluster season which isn’t something people are going to respond positively too. 

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I just prefer the unfiltered versions, riders perspective. MXGP riders are so much more straightforward in general. You can probably say half the MXGP paddock have...

I just prefer the unfiltered versions, riders perspective. MXGP riders are so much more straightforward in general. You can probably say half the MXGP paddock have thrown bikes and teams under the bus if you are that sensitive. Chase is straight fwd, RJ a bit more clear also.

There is to much "we" and general statements that gives absolutely no clarity on situations because people are afraid to hurt some feelings. We where in the dark for years with Tomac mysteriously tanking races.

People just get offended to much and easy these days. 

Shut up with your offended. No one is offended. It's as overused a word as "outraged" has become. 

We're just not buying Prado's line of BS. He's shown no ability or willingness to fight through the issues. He just gives up. THAT offends me. Even as a never was, never will be, I didn't quit when I was getting beat. I rode slow as quickly as I could and tried. 

I WOULD like to hear something from the team tho. Who's the boss there? Why the dead silence other than the motor guy. Or is it a fact that the factory team is still so rigid that they can't fix their own problems.  

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8/29/2025 4:21pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2025 4:23pm
Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll...

Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. 

We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll be a long road to recover it for the green team. 

Ac couldn’t keep it upright.
JA did nothing on it. 
Prado did nothing on it. 

If Chase can’t win on it like he could the Honda & the Pumpkin, then it’s f*cked.

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Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

AC with a career ending busted arm put in more effort than Prado. Can't remember the overall results but they wouldn't have been far off. Pretty sure he never got a 17th?

Also you can bet your ass Chase isn't going to "cruising"around  in 15th blocking rooster with hands. He'll be fighting hard no matter what

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soggy wrote:
The word offended gets thrown around way too much these days it almost has no meaning.  This is a moto forum. Jorge made a stupid post...

The word offended gets thrown around way too much these days it almost has no meaning.  This is a moto forum. Jorge made a stupid post and posters are just cutting through the bullshit. He comes off as an arrogant and unwilling to admit his part in his lackluster season which isn’t something people are going to respond positively too. 

aees wrote:
I just prefer the unfiltered versions, riders perspective. MXGP riders are so much more straightforward in general. You can probably say half the MXGP paddock have...

I just prefer the unfiltered versions, riders perspective. MXGP riders are so much more straightforward in general. You can probably say half the MXGP paddock have thrown bikes and teams under the bus if you are that sensitive. Chase is straight fwd, RJ a bit more clear also.

There is to much "we" and general statements that gives absolutely no clarity on situations because people are afraid to hurt some feelings. We where in the dark for years with Tomac mysteriously tanking races.

People just get offended to much and easy these days. 

Shut up with your offended. No one is offended. It's as overused a word as "outraged" has become. We're just not buying Prado's line of BS. He's...

Shut up with your offended. No one is offended. It's as overused a word as "outraged" has become. 

We're just not buying Prado's line of BS. He's shown no ability or willingness to fight through the issues. He just gives up. THAT offends me. Even as a never was, never will be, I didn't quit when I was getting beat. I rode slow as quickly as I could and tried. 

I WOULD like to hear something from the team tho. Who's the boss there? Why the dead silence other than the motor guy. Or is it a fact that the factory team is still so rigid that they can't fix their own problems.  

So, you are offended you say? Or, you are No One, like from GOT?

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8/29/2025 4:40pm
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Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

And for all the talk about Eli leaving because Kawasaki was inflexible on bike setup, the fact remains that in 4 years now on the Yamaha...

And for all the talk about Eli leaving because Kawasaki was inflexible on bike setup, the fact remains that in 4 years now on the Yamaha, he’s only won 2 titles compared to 4 titles in 6 years on the Kawasaki.  Maybe those engineers actually knew more than he thought they did.  It will be interesting to see if he can get back to his winning ways on the KTM.

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Exactly!! Beast mode started on the KX when he was turning his fastest lap times at the end of the moto and smoking the field. Some on...

Exactly!! 

Beast mode started on the KX when he was turning his fastest lap times at the end of the moto and smoking the field. Some on here have a short memory of what Eli did on the Kawi. He was a winning machine on that bike. Comparing Prado to Chase and Eli is an insult to them.

He should have a bunch more titles on Kawi too

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Been thinking the same.KTM usa has a rear shock fade issue but KTM europe dont.KTM had the weird brake issue too.Dont think its going to get...

Been thinking the same.

KTM usa has a rear shock fade issue but KTM europe dont.

KTM had the weird brake issue too.

Dont think its going to get any better and throw in SX racing with big whoops.

Also who will the second Kawi rider be next to sexton?

It would be soo kawi to kick the tires on CC28. They have a penchant for riders with bad arms.

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I haven’t read everything, but keep reading the same stuff over and over without mention of the obvious-

Seems like himself and the team are in disagreement with bike setup or Prado is insisting the bike is dangerous which will not allow him to push. So he’s putting in laps on race day doing the bare minimum so he gets paid. Staying healthy, extending his career by a season and hopes to get dumped to switch teams. Have I missed a “journalist” interview the race team manager lately? Boy I think that would clear up a lot. Let’s ask about his contract details.

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I’m not sure what SX results on the previous model Kawi have to do with the current bike in outdoors? 
But maybe that’s just me…..

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Prado quit trying so many times, it is embarrassing. That is the issue to me...and apparently with many at Kawi. As it should be.I hope Eli...

Prado quit trying so many times, it is embarrassing. That is the issue to me...and apparently with many at Kawi. As it should be.

I hope Eli wins next year, but doubtful...he is just too old now. Fact of life. 3rd-5th guy. I do think he could have won SX this year if not for the injury.

I think Eli sat up and just rolled when he realized title wasn't coming. I know plenty of guys in cycling that were pro elite fast...

I think Eli sat up and just rolled when he realized title wasn't coming. I know plenty of guys in cycling that were pro elite fast till past 35 in endurance sports. I think Eli is one of those genetic freaks based on his parents and past performance. 

No reason to get injured on a bike thats disappearing in a few months. But I could be totally off base. It's a guess and biased to what I want to see. 

I think KTM has a good year next year, Prado, Tomac, and AP, while Chase - bless that dude - continues his up/down struggles on a different color. 

But man - Im a racer. I want to see everyone healthy, bikes dialed, and clean gnarly dogfights every moto. 

This is nice and all, but the beer belly boys on vital said Eli is old so case closed😂 now we just need Eli to log on here so he can learn his winning days are over too. 

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Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. People close to the situation that...

Race teams have budgets. Just because Kawasaki it’s self is a massive corporation doesn’t mean the race team has unlimited budgets. 

People close to the situation that know more then us have decided not to fire him, yet. 

This controversy if you want to call it that is so in the weeds most fans aren’t really that invested in it(Theres like 20 posters in this thread, it’s not an accurate representation of overall sentiment, and most people I’d wager just don’t really care). If they cut him a check to get out of the contract that will be millions of dollars.  And they’d still have to look for another rider. 
 

If Prado gets on the Austrian bike and performs better good for him and his career(he probably will because his mind will clearly be in a better place).  I’m not sure how damaging it would be to Kawi, they are hiring sexton. If he comes out and beats Prado like he usually does that should negate all the negatives about Prado leaving according to the logic being used. 

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I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and...

I don't understand your argument, my point was Kawasaki should have ended this as soon as they could. Is your point that I am mistaken and Kawasaki should prolong this public drama? Honest question.

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Kawasaki doesn’t want to end it cause then they have to pay him. They want Prado to quit. 

I understand that friend, my point was corporate image is immeasurable. I owned a business as well, certainly not multi-billion, nor multi-national. Yet I always told my employees it takes a lifetime to build a reputation, yet only a moment to destroy it. Destruction of a corporate image doesn't have to be publicly unanimous, ala Ford Pintos or KTM 790s, there just needs to be an under tone to start a narrative. KHI should have cut this bad image loose despite budgets, and put Harrison on the scooter or some other appreciative rider. Prado's issues will haunt this brand for years.

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If Prado goes to KTM and is a regular podium guy in 2026, none of this will even be remembered much after a while. One thing you...

If Prado goes to KTM and is a regular podium guy in 2026, none of this will even be remembered much after a while. 

One thing you know for sure is that if he is on KTM next year, his effort will be off the charts to do well. There will be no quit in him.

This remains to be seen. I’m not convinced after his performances this year that next year will be any different. One thing I am looking forward to, is seeing this drama end. Either way…. If he’s Fire next year, it will end…. I he come out and it’s more of the same as this year, it will end. I honestly hope it’s Fire!

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Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll...

Completely agree. Kawasaki need to pray that they have success next year. 

We know how sensitive Chase can be- if he speaks bad about the KX, it’ll be a long road to recover it for the green team. 

Ac couldn’t keep it upright.
JA did nothing on it. 
Prado did nothing on it. 

If Chase can’t win on it like he could the Honda & the Pumpkin, then it’s f*cked.

Flatliner wrote:

Anderson won more races on the kawi than he did on the husky the year he won his title.

Outdoors?? 

We have to keep an open mind that a bike can be good at one discipline, but bad at another.

The only two national overalls that Anderson has came with team Kawi. He never won an overall outdoors on a Husky. 

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