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If we want flaggers to tend to the rider, who's going to wave the yellow flag? On longer tracks, we probably need multiple medical teams, so they can get to any part of the track more quickly. Maybe more than 2.
So who’s going to alert oncoming riders of the downed guy if the flagger is adminstering aid?
The only critique I have for the flagger is that I personally think he should have gotten the red cross flag out. Other than that, he did alright.
So you want a flagger to be visible and warn other riders that there’s a crashed rider on the course AND tend to an injured rider at the same time?
Hire octopus flaggers, problem solved. 👍
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Not sure what people expect the flagger to do? He stops to render aid he is probably going to be lying there with Michael. I also dont understand what people think a medic on the scene is going to do except maybe make sure michael is more stable and neck/spine is stable before letting him wake up and stand on his own. They can't make him "wake up" any faster and get back on his bike. I don't work on the emt side of thing but I do work in the ER. People always have this impression that we can wave a wand and give some meds in the blink of a eye and be like, healed. Like during an emergent situation when family/friends are near and yelling "hurry up" or "what's taking so long". People, there is a fucking process, it is not an instant fix no matter how good you think modern medicine is. You can only do so much and there is a "process" Flagger gets an A.
Above any off this talk I sure hope Michael is okay. The blood is just blood. No one who knows gives a shit about that little bit of blood. Spontaneous nose bleeds are more impressive. Id be worried about bleeds in places we cant see after that head smack. First thing Michael needs is a CT. I don't think we have those stationed around the track. Get well soon Michael!! Praying all is good.
It took the asterisk guy 41 seconds to get to him. I’m not sure where he was stationed, but 41 seconds is not that long, when you consider where he had to come from to get to Mosiman.
So tell us what basic EMS training would do with an unconscious rider with possible severe trauma? Maybe hold his head steady and talk to him encouraging him not to move? By the time that happened the crew was there. It's not a basketball court, there is a lot of ground to cover and considering everything they got there pretty fast
100%. Bow977 is a bit out of touch on this one.
I would be very surprised if he can race SMX. Dude was OUT and will take some time to recover. He shouldn't rush back.
Genuine question. Are you aware of what is the hiring or qualification process that is in place now for flaggers at AMA events?
I have heard conflicting things over the years….
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video of the crash
The only requirement is one workable braincell and not being too pissed or high when you're on the job. Apart from that you're good to go!
Holy shit that was brutal
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I believe the flagger should get up track, ON TRACK AND IN FRONT OF THE downed rider, and ensure nobody runs over the rider.
The short vid was brutal.
The flagger was on it about as fast as humanly possible.
Waving the yellow flag before the dust even settled.
Should there not be a flagger on the jump take off? Is this flagger not supposed to face the direction they are going?
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The jump has flashing lights on the side of the take off. Mosiman ends up right next to it.
YO, Genuine question. If you were in this exact situation, and you were the flagger. what would you have done to make the situation better?
What are Mosiman's injuries?
Yeah good idea, like a human shield, that's the ticket 😉 👍 I'm kind of at a loss why everyone's jumping on this flaggers shit when MM didn't even get run over. Is it because Bow977 expected him to be doing 2 jobs at 1 time ?
"Mosiman had a promising start to the day, qualifying 10th, but unfortunately had a big crash on Lap 2 of the first moto before the Skyshot jump. The Californian withdrew from the race and received stitches for a cut above his eye. An update on his status will follow at a later date."
Cough COUGH.... in helmet frickn communication... we still in the frickn stone ages or what?? 🤣🤣
Oof!
The flagger's job is to alert riders coming towards the accident and keep them away from the downed rider/medical crew to helping. The are protecting the downed rider! That is 100% what they are there for and nothing else! I they needed to attend to a rider they are putting the rider and themselves at EVEN MORE risk!! You obviously have never been at a local race to see a flagger and downed rider get smashed by another bike because the flagger didn't do their #1 job!!
Or..... watch a rider smash into a down bike laying at the bottom of a blind jump while the flagger on the takeoff ramp runs to help the guy who crashed all by himself, only to have that rider get up and make the restart while the second rider that plowed into his bike gets loaded in the meat wagon with life changing injuries. You know, stuff like that.
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