The Prado Mystery

Ok guys just think about it.

Even if Jorge has no mechanical ability he has been around elite mxgp technicians for years to explain things to him regarding bike set up nuance.

That's the best on the job training period the end.

And he won titles along the way so something was working. 

And now he can't beat privateers on mostly stock KXs...

I'm pulling for the guy to mix it up and make  things interesting but surely there is more to the story??

From all reports and comments from other legit punters(other than Prado himself) it seems mental. His results are getting worse. JT even said he saw Prado puts his hand up to block roost at Millville while moving backwards. Thats someone who has clearly given up and is over it. Now is it because the bike isn't perfect? Most likely. But it's HIS JOB to work through it. Be strong minded, willed and still push, adapt, learn and get some kind of result for everyone. Its disrespectful to everyone including fans by being the way he is. 

I read on vital he was having problems with his chick.

Listening to DB’s latest pod he says a former two time champ rode the bike and said it’s not good. Maybe one of the worst bikes he’s ever ridden. Maybe Prado is the Cole Trickle of moto?

DB is team Prado. Don’t take his opinion on any matters that he has a stake in. He is biased and that’s okay. It’s not just about this situation but any situation he has a direct connection with. 

I don’t get why you are so emotional about this. 

Yes I’m aware and agree they were talking power. When you say “level of the bike”, to me, that means overall performance. I think that’s reasonable to interpret it that way. You don’t see how maybe someone who didn’t listen to the interview would misunderstand your dumb misquote and maybe you should have “literally” made a better post. 

She was probably wierded out by his comments on his sisters Instagram photos

Someone needs to make an official Prado excuse thread, it’s hard to keep up in this one

Link? Guess I missed that one....

Imagine if Jett or Chase went over to mxgp on a new bike and only finished 3-5 every week. All the euros on here would be saying MXGP is faster. The facts are Jett set the bar so damn high that if you don’t have the perfect bike setup and endurance you will be a minute behind just like prado. RVs run in Europe on his way out of the sport was ten times better than Prados showing. 

Prado will never win a USA Moto. He doesn’t have what the top 4 guys here have. 

You can’t get a start, sprint for ten minutes and coast to a win. Tracks are good here not one lined parking lots.

Jett and Chase can beat anyone in the world on a non sand track. In the sand Herlings beats all. 

MXON will be a clinic by Aus and USA. 

Prado spoilt since being a young prodigy. No doubt. And when the bike isnt what he wants he checks out. No doubt. 
Is it Mental? I dont think so. I think its a precious multiple world champ with a huge ego who hasnt got his ducks in a row, and he is his a bit Euro road racing in manner, where its bike setup first, everything else second. 
Anyone who thinks he isnt a top3 when he is on is deluded or ignorant. Guys a special talent….his ego, now that’s a different story.

His Ktm team in Europe where the best of the best. The Kawi guys arent at the level and havent been for a long time. 

I’ve commented on this thread once or twice, but I’m currently laid up with the flu, so I just read it from start to finish. There’s some fucking stupid comments in here, even by vitard standards.

Hey everyone chill out, the dust freaked him out at Washougal, he’ll be fine. This is getting outta hand 😂😂 This is from Matthes RacerX Observations:

At least he hasn’t used the illness excuse yet…..

Even if it is the case that a "former two time champ" said the bike is no good a large portion of the responsibility lies with Prado. The team tweaks the bike based off HIS preferences. But as another has said in here apparently Prado admitted in a Spanish interview that he has close to zero mechanical or setup knowledge. Again that's on HIM. 

Are you serious? This is actually laughable……💯😂

Anderson has a condition that can cause severe weakness, dizziness etc.  Sure he could have shown up, but his results would have been poor.  More importantly, racing with that condition puts him at risk of making a mistake that causes an accident.  Simply not worth the risk.   It sounds like his team supported him completely.

I suspect Prado has no ability to setup a bike because of his successful background with one team and cant communicate what he feels versus what causes it in such a way that its just a puzzle. Massive achilles heel. 

I know setup and feel are huge but again, if your vocabulary is limited to the word comfort you are fucked. I gauramty Qweefer doesnt use that word when testing for OEM. He talks about trail/rake, high speed & low speed comp & rebound, progression, rode height, squat from acceleration. 

Always shocked to see how little is known by the top of the sport on this. 

Anyway, if those assumptions are true Prado may never get back to the form he had unless he's willing to really learn & develop understanding from his mechanics and team. 
 

Kawasaki should send someone away from Club to a local moto track and grab a couple moto dads to interpret what Prado is saying. Maybe someone used to trying to figure out what someone is describing without using industry terminology could help. Certainly couldn’t be worse than 19th. 

THE moto dad (ChadReed) is doing that now.  Supposedly.

Is the allegedly communication issue a language barrier? Or have they brought a professional translator to help Prado share his feedback to Kawasaki mechanics? Or have they tried that and even in his mother tongue Prado is limited in his vocabulary to provide accurate description on the behavior of the bike and what he wants to change?

Guess I missed this. What's the story here?

I think it's the combination of everything. Total life change coming to the states and straight to the 450's which not many do. In addition to coming from a very different machine, I think they chased power for so long that the suspension doesn't work like it needs to with it. Couple that with high expectations and he is just doubting himself. Hopefully reed can help him navigate the change and get more insight as to what needs to change with him or his program to get him back on track. I still believe he can win over here. 

rumors bouncing around online that Kawi/Prado are in talks to just call it a day and sever the deal. If we hear of a "practice injury" during this break, I'd bet the rumors might be true and he's gonna jump the next plane home. No "evidence" yet, just rumors....

He wants out, but needs to buy himself out.  Lots of $$ for Prado to get out of his contract.  Along with these rumors, i heard he's not going to buy himself out the remaining 2 years (too much $$) as Kawi requires $$ for Prado to walk away early

https://www.vitalmx.com/comment/7985706

Click the X link and check the images. 

Then read the rest of the thread.

Maybe they need to bring Mike Williamson back to help teach Prado how to test and setup a bike like they did with RV. I remember Williamson saying when RV moved up to 450's he had no clue how to setup a bike and just got on a rode as hard as he could which Mike told him worked on a 250 but never would on a 450. 

Maybe that's what Reedy will be doing and if he is, that will be huge for Prado and Kawi. I've always been told 2 of the best testers ever were Lamson and Reed.

Both Kawasaki AND Prado need to show they have what it takes to turn this around.  Very damaging otherwise.

Kawi could just let him walk and then he wouldn’t need to buy it out.