2 things I’m bummed about for the Outdoors so far..

Chris_Buehler wrote:

RC is the GOAT and, like Ryno said, probably will be until this sport dies. Setting aside all the stats, wins and titles, who would you...

RC is the GOAT and, like Ryno said, probably will be until this sport dies. Setting aside all the stats, wins and titles, who would you most want to ride like? Its a tossup for me between Jett and peak RV. Jett for the beautiful perfection and RV for the ruthless aggression. 

decano51 wrote:

What’s RC4’s Nickname if Jett does end his career ahead of Ricky? 

MOTO13 wrote:

Jett is really great...one of the best ever. But, as we all have seen, it takes one bad/different model year or change of a bike and...

Jett is really great...one of the best ever. But, as we all have seen, it takes one bad/different model year or change of a bike and suddenly the person looks/rides different. The Honda model Jett is running currently he really does gel with and Honda will do probably everything they can to keep it this way. Look at the McGrath and Honda BITD. Suddenly the 1997 bike was a literal hunk of sh*t and basically un-raceable. 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

Every time Jett dumps the clutch when the gate drops we are witnessing perfection. That second moto was epic and the pass made on Cooper was...

Every time Jett dumps the clutch when the gate drops we are witnessing perfection. That second moto was epic and the pass made on Cooper was mind boggling. Weather or not Jett ends up eclipsing RC in wins because there’s a long way to go, really doesn’t matter. I never thought I’d ever say this, but I believe after watching that second moto , I’m watching the Greatest MX rider I’ve ever seen. Jett is a finally tuned machine and Honda has given him everything he needs.

aeffertz wrote:

"Jett is a finally tuned machine and Honda has given him everything he needs."What's great too is they're eating eggs and bacon for breakfast and ice...

"Jett is a finally tuned machine and Honda has given him everything he needs."

What's great too is they're eating eggs and bacon for breakfast and ice cream on race day. Aldon would never!

Chris_Buehler wrote:

RC is the GOAT and, like Ryno said, probably will be until this sport dies. Setting aside all the stats, wins and titles, who would you...

RC is the GOAT and, like Ryno said, probably will be until this sport dies. Setting aside all the stats, wins and titles, who would you most want to ride like? Its a tossup for me between Jett and peak RV. Jett for the beautiful perfection and RV for the ruthless aggression. 

Cayden Thompson wrote:

In the boxing world it's like comparing Mayweather to Pacquiao. Mayweather is the most talented, regarded as "TBE" (the best ever). Never lost a fight (50-0)...

In the boxing world it's like comparing Mayweather to Pacquiao. Mayweather is the most talented, regarded as "TBE" (the best ever). Never lost a fight (50-0). While Pacquiao is the most accomplished ever (the only boxer to win 8 titles in different weight divisions). Floyd is Jett. Manny is RC. 

decano51 wrote:

What’s RC4’s Nickname if Jett does end his career ahead of Ricky? 

Cayden Thompson wrote:

"The 2nd Greatest of All Time"

Kenny Banyan wrote:

I’m a huge RC fan , from day one. I get it, that’s why I stated that I never thought I would ever say it. But...

I’m a huge RC fan , from day one. I get it, that’s why I stated that I never thought I would ever say it. But I think Jett is better. Obviously not in terms resumes, but because of what I’m seeing Jett do on track this year. I’ve never seen any rider ride that fast and smooth and make it look effortless every time out. Definitely remains to be seen if he can eclipse RC’s stats, but stats don’t always tell the story of who was the best . 

Tumic wrote:

I am a big stats guy, and you can use them to argue in different ways.Total wins is one thing, win percentage is another.Let’s play devils...

I am a big stats guy, and you can use them to argue in different ways.

Total wins is one thing, win percentage is another.

Let’s play devils advocate here and say that MC got his 72 wins, and if another rider wins 71 with a 100% win rate through his career, who was the best?.

It’s a extremely hypothetical argument but win percentage is often not talked about. 

is it how many wins you got, how long you were in the sport or how good you were while you were in it?. Ofc you could not claim to be the best ever if you race one race and go out with a 100% win rate but after a couple of years of racing it becomes interesting to look at it.

I don’t remember what stat RV had that was better than RC that really surprised me that they talked about in the last title 24.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

RC is the GOAT and, like Ryno said, probably will be until this sport dies. Setting aside all the stats, wins and titles, who would you...

RC is the GOAT and, like Ryno said, probably will be until this sport dies. Setting aside all the stats, wins and titles, who would you most want to ride like? Its a tossup for me between Jett and peak RV. Jett for the beautiful perfection and RV for the ruthless aggression. 

Cayden Thompson wrote:

In the boxing world it's like comparing Mayweather to Pacquiao. Mayweather is the most talented, regarded as "TBE" (the best ever). Never lost a fight (50-0)...

In the boxing world it's like comparing Mayweather to Pacquiao. Mayweather is the most talented, regarded as "TBE" (the best ever). Never lost a fight (50-0). While Pacquiao is the most accomplished ever (the only boxer to win 8 titles in different weight divisions). Floyd is Jett. Manny is RC. 

decano51 wrote:

What’s RC4’s Nickname if Jett does end his career ahead of Ricky? 

Flatliner wrote:

That's the beauty of forums I suppose. Dont agree, and tomac's hangtown ride in 15' was superior, so was chase's hangtown last year, and so was...

That's the beauty of forums I suppose. Dont agree, and tomac's hangtown ride in 15' was superior, so was chase's hangtown last year, and so was RC's lapping the field.

971_Fan wrote:

Add Dungey's Southwick ride, and a few others.

Kasims wrote:

Yeah, somehow all those rides are forgotten, and Dunge started no only last, but almost a lap behind last place.

decano51 wrote:

What’s RC4’s Nickname if Jett does end his career ahead of Ricky? 

DonM wrote:

Let's wait and see on that one....looooooong way to go still

decano51 wrote:

What’s RC4’s Nickname if Jett does end his career ahead of Ricky? 

DonM wrote:

Let's wait and see on that one....looooooong way to go still

decano51 wrote:

I 100% agree.

Even if it’s not Jett, and somebody in the future.

But I’m genuinely curious because RC’s “GOAT” nickname is his whole brand. 
 

 

decano51 wrote:

What’s RC4’s Nickname if Jett does end his career ahead of Ricky? 

DonM wrote:

Let's wait and see on that one....looooooong way to go still

decano51 wrote:

I 100% agree.

Even if it’s not Jett, and somebody in the future.

But I’m genuinely curious because RC’s “GOAT” nickname is his whole brand. 
 

 

DonM wrote:

Let's wait and see on that one....looooooong way to go still

decano51 wrote:

I 100% agree.

Even if it’s not Jett, and somebody in the future.

But I’m genuinely curious because RC’s “GOAT” nickname is his whole brand. 
 

 

Chris_Buehler wrote:

He's also the first athlete I can remember ever being called the GOAT. Its thrown around in every sport now or comment section in social media...

He's also the first athlete I can remember ever being called the GOAT. Its thrown around in every sport now or comment section in social media. Is MJ or Lebron the GOAT? Tom Brady is the GOAT. All over Instagram is GOAT comments or emojis. But 20yrs ago RJ was THE one and only GOAT in sports. At least that I can remember 

DonM wrote:

Let's wait and see on that one....looooooong way to go still

decano51 wrote:

I 100% agree.

Even if it’s not Jett, and somebody in the future.

But I’m genuinely curious because RC’s “GOAT” nickname is his whole brand. 
 

 

DonM wrote:

RC will forever be the GOAT and Jeremy will forever be the King of SX if Jett or anybody else breaks their records they will have...

RC will forever be the GOAT and Jeremy will forever be the King of SX if Jett or anybody else breaks their records they will have their nickname decided by the fans and media at that time. 

TeamGreen wrote:

All I know is…I’m waiting on a new factory Honda title-sponsor to come along to make the post race pressers even more interesting…

All I know is…

I’m waiting on a new factory Honda title-sponsor to come along to make the post race pressers even more interesting…

lumpy790 wrote:

Jett is not at 100% physically or emotionally …. yet.At round 1 Jett showed his emotion after the checkered flag and ET stayed on him both...

Jett is not at 100% physically or emotionally …. yet.

At round 1 Jett showed his emotion after the checkered flag and ET stayed on him both motos waiting for a crack. Jett didn't think he could win round 1 but he did . Each week Jett is feeling stronger and stronger.

This year the 450 field is stacked. Several Guys that have been knocking on the door for top 10 for a couple years are struggling to make top 20

There has been a drastic changing of the guard. Add Dangerboy to the 450 mix is going to make things very interesting. 

Like Jett did add Deegan to one of the 450 classes at the MXoN.

decano51 wrote:

I 100% agree.

Even if it’s not Jett, and somebody in the future.

But I’m genuinely curious because RC’s “GOAT” nickname is his whole brand. 
 

 

Chris_Buehler wrote:

He's also the first athlete I can remember ever being called the GOAT. Its thrown around in every sport now or comment section in social media...

He's also the first athlete I can remember ever being called the GOAT. Its thrown around in every sport now or comment section in social media. Is MJ or Lebron the GOAT? Tom Brady is the GOAT. All over Instagram is GOAT comments or emojis. But 20yrs ago RJ was THE one and only GOAT in sports. At least that I can remember 

GrapeApe wrote:

I think Mohammad Ali was the first to be called GOAT

kawasa84 wrote:

JS7, using HALF the cc's (a 125 2-stroke against mostly 250 4 strokes) climbed from the back of the pack against the worlds best 250f riders...

JS7, using HALF the cc's (a 125 2-stroke against mostly 250 4 strokes) climbed from the back of the pack against the worlds best 250f riders to win at Buds Creek. 

When another rider, including Jett, can take a 225 cc 2-stroke and climb through the field of the worlds best on 450 4-strokes............then that will be epic. Until then, he's put in some good rides.

Chase coming from dead last to win at Hangtown and many many others, were all better than what Jett did from 18th place.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

He was called the Greatest of All Time but did they use the acronym GOAT for him? I know Ali, of course, but hes a little...

He was called the Greatest of All Time but did they use the acronym GOAT for him? I know Ali, of course, but hes a little before my time

DonM wrote:

Let's wait and see on that one....looooooong way to go still

decano51 wrote:

I 100% agree.

Even if it’s not Jett, and somebody in the future.

But I’m genuinely curious because RC’s “GOAT” nickname is his whole brand. 
 

 

Chris_Buehler wrote:

He's also the first athlete I can remember ever being called the GOAT. Its thrown around in every sport now or comment section in social media...

He's also the first athlete I can remember ever being called the GOAT. Its thrown around in every sport now or comment section in social media. Is MJ or Lebron the GOAT? Tom Brady is the GOAT. All over Instagram is GOAT comments or emojis. But 20yrs ago RJ was THE one and only GOAT in sports. At least that I can remember 

blockhead17 wrote:

1. Eli Tomac isn’t the same guy this year.. Father Time is still undefeated2. Jett looks like he is playing a video game on easy mode...

1. Eli Tomac isn’t the same guy this year.. Father Time is still undefeated

2. Jett looks like he is playing a video game on easy mode - he is faster literally everywhere, those drone shots really show his speed advantage over everyone

blockhead17 wrote:

1. Eli Tomac isn’t the same guy this year.. Father Time is still undefeated2. Jett looks like he is playing a video game on easy mode...

1. Eli Tomac isn’t the same guy this year.. Father Time is still undefeated

2. Jett looks like he is playing a video game on easy mode - he is faster literally everywhere, those drone shots really show his speed advantage over everyone

Tiki wrote:

Let Chase get up to speed. If we can see the Chase from Hangtown '24 again. Jett is going to have his hands full. https://youtu.be/vrxBE6HMhWc?si=WKlrvs6m21SL1sIU&t=695 This...

Let Chase get up to speed. If we can see the Chase from Hangtown '24 again. Jett is going to have his hands full. https://youtu.be/vrxBE6HMhWc?si=WKlrvs6m21SL1sIU&t=695 This was beautiful