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WOW ! The kid literally dropped the mic on that last moto !
He’s definitely building his resume to be among the greats this sport has seen.
I’ve had the privilege going back 5 decades & have seen some of the all-time greats. Very Kool to watch..
You are absolutely correct. But calling the 250 guys a crop of pussies is lame, and since Jett is the creme of the crop right now, his worst fans are going to be the loudest. Same with Deegan fans.
To be fair, the rest of the 250 class has fast guys but they're wildly inconsistent. Deegan is definitely the best of them, but he's the only one (save for yesterday) that can fight through the pack no matter what. Instead of giving up 6-8 points every weekend, his competition is giving him 20 points at times, they all take turns shitting the bed, and it's a head scratcher.
The last time I saw a rider that made me say “WOW” was Stewart on a 125 his rookie year at Washougal. I was standing at the top of horsepower hill and Stewart scrubbed the top, landed sideways in the corner with the throttle pinned and exited the corner like he was shot out of a potato gun. I just sat there in awe.
That second moto yesterday was one of those moments.
People talk about Deegan vs Jett and it reminds me of when RC was dominating and everyone kept saying wait until TP199 or Stew moved up, RC had them handled. Deegan is one of those guys that may just end up like Stew. All RC had to do was put pressure on him until Stew wadded it.
I honestly think Jett is faster than any of them on a 450, it just doesn’t look like it most of the time because he’s so smooth. The way he was literally passing everyone like they were riding a pit bike yesterday really put perspective on how fast the kid can really go.
Watching Jett ride a track is the definition of poetry in motion, it’s enjoyable to watch and makes you wonder how in the hell he goes so fast while making it look so easy. It’s pretty cool to witness greatness.
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after yesterdays performance, unless injury or bike failure occurs its going to be the jett show for a long time. sure tomac, hunter, sexton, AP deegan(eventually) will battle him on off days or bad starts, they'll get a moto win here and there. but not one is making the run for a title. His starts and consistency is to much. He's never going to have a tomac or hunter day where he finishes outside the top 5 for multiple motos in a season. If he's not winning he'll be on the podium.
I think the next record he's going to beat is dungeys most podiums in a row with 23 or something ridiculous like that.
-sincerely a tomac, deegan and sexton fan.
Looking at them ride that’s a solid logical conclusion. Problem is that it hasn’t played out that way. Jett and Chase have lined up 30 times in outdoor motos (actually 32 if you include MXdN 2022 at Red Bud). Chase has finished ahead of Jett three times - twice at Hangtown last year after Jett’s big crash and once at Southwick last year (and Jett still won the overall).
I’d also be interested in how many times Chase has crashed trying to run Jett’s pace. It’s enough to think that when Chase does it’s high risk and right on the edge of his limit. The compare how many times Jett has crashed while being pressured by Chase.
I think it’s less about potential and more about hope. Clearly Jett has all the current 450 competitors covered so people are looking at who is coming next.
Deegan is the current standout in the 250’s so it’s reasonable for fans to pin their hopes on him. He’s clearly talented but he’s also up against a horribly inconsistent field.
Consider this - let’s say Deegan wins the title, does he jump on a 450 at MXdN and go 1-2 like Jett did?
Maybe the over riding the bike is because he’s trying to get everything out of it? And maybe he’s so mad that he fell that it leads to over riding and making mistakes?
Jett's competition will be from Europe.
I don’t see none.The only guy i see,is from the US and his name is Haiden Deegan.
We've had so many people fall off the back of a group up front recently and end up racing theirselves for the last 15 minutes of a moto. Meanwhile, Jett doesn't need to latch onto the leaders to see their pace or mirror their lines. He's very selective when it comes to risk management. The bike setup, his technique, and his line choice allows him to go anywhere on a track and do anything. His momentum and traction in seemingly all sections of the track is something that jumps out at me.
There are a lot of things he does great, but his consistency especially in corners is lethal.
It’s crazy. Before seeing Jett do this I had no idea what it was. I looked it up because I guess being nearly 40 I tend to miss a lot of new tik tok trends.
Since then I have noticed this is all over my facebook feed and YouTube. I think i had scrolled past it before and ignored it. Some kid on a boat. Who cares? But this kid is everywhere and he does have unbelievable swagger as he does it.
I had asked my daughter. She said yeh, her friends all were doing it. Who knew... Lol. Crazy world we live in.
As far as Jett, he needs to meet the president, and tell him. (Trump voice): "so much winning, I'm getting tired of winning." Ha ha
haiden still gotta go thru chase before he even get to Jett’s exhaust pipe
Thank you. Deegz could challenge the JCoop, AP, Hunter tier guys immediately but Chase is a different animal. Even those other guys I mentioned are beasts. Can you beat Hunter his first year? Idk about that
All we can hope for is he gets bad starts.
The downvotes on my post are just validation that there's tons of over the top Jett fans who can't accept that other riders can do amazing things too. Those guys are very some sad Sally's who don't appreciate moto and can't acknowledge Chase's historic ride from last to first. Jett could do the same someday, but until he does, let's not forget what Chase did and give credit where credit is due.
Jetson reminds me of MC back in the day. Total dominance (MC in SX - Jett outdoors)...and they both had everybody beaten before the gate dropped. It was a race for second place!
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Jett was riding redbud in his own league. He was working every inch of that track and clicking off lines with surgical precision that no one else was or could, and doing it consistently.
Fair point about Sextons Hangtown ride, and an excellent return ride at Redbud. And from what I understand he is not happy/comfortable on the orange steed which makes it even more commendable. The track was not forgiving at all this weekend.
I think Jett manages championships better than Chase. Chase was flying in moto two but did what he does and dropped it in a corner. Cook yourself quick that way in 95F and lots of humidity.
Either way, I hope he has something for Jett to keep it interesting. But just watching Jett ride in general is an absolute treat.
My dad doesn't follow moto at all. He went to a high point natty with me and we watched a Stewart/Carmichael clinic. He was at redbud with me this weekend and even as an ignorant to moto spectator he could tell Jett was a class above...I didn't even need to call it out.
He reminds me of Kenny, seems to ride a gear higher and carry speed very well. I called it in M1 that Tomac was gonna smoke a clutch, and it happened minutes later. I should not be teaching Tomac a damn thing, but he could learn from Jett, shift up and learn to carry momentum. The 'beat bike and track into submission' approach doesn't work out as well as it once did with this new crop of technical wizards.
Yes, 100% agreed Jett is spectacular and he has had Chase covered so far. However, I do believe there will be days that Chase can beat him. When Chase tucked the front he was pushing so hard to catch Jett, and it appeared he was slowly reeling him in. So there is hope for an occasional battle with Jett.
As a fan, I would hope everyone wants to see someone who can give him trouble on occasion vs total domination. I hope either Hunter, AP, or Chase can take a moto win occasionally and that will make things more exciting to watch.
I will say, I've had people over to watch the races and so far this year Redbud was a standout with Jett having to work for it. Most of the previous races were not exciting at all to watch for people who aren't into the sport like we are.
Very much agreed. Chase was moving to the front quick, he was on a mission. It will be telling if both get good starts and have clean track. Jett is good at managing races and doing just enough.
Both Jett and Chase get a good start...has Chase EVER beaten Jett on a 450 in MX?? I seriously don't think he ever has. Not sure he has ever been in the same zip code. Jett is probably riding as good or better than he ever has. Chase is not going to beat Jett...unless Jett crashes with Chase close in second and Jett doesn't get up for 30 seconds or so.
I guess you didn’t see Tim Gasjer beat Jett straight up at the MXoN last year.
I believe there's a chance for him to beat Jett. Not a big chance, but a chance. And if Jett were to fall and Sexton beats him, then Sexton beats him. Just like when Sexton falls, Jett beats Chase. Sexton beat Jett at Hangtown above when Jett crashed. It's no different than if Sexton crashes and loses the race to Jett.
Jett doesn't crash often, but I could see Sexton pushing the pace and causing a rare mistake.
Some of these threads don't age well when everyone thinks someone is unbeatable or invincible. Some of the guys here are borderline jinx'ing him.
You make a good point...if Chase pushes Jett in to a mistake. One problem...I don't think Chase has the ability to push Jett. And trust me..I am no huge Jett fan. But I have to hand it to the kid, he's friggin good...really good. I am happy he's here racing and not MXGP.
Oh the irony you state Jett fans are the worse!! Just look at your drivel over Haiden !
I'm a Haiden fan and I think it's unlikely he'll be able to beat Jett on a 450 but I do think he'll be very close on occasion. The only reason I think this is possible is based on RJ Hampshires quick success on the 450. I honestly did not expect RJ to be doing this well, especially up there running with Jett for a few laps at Redbud, so if Haiden has a similar 450 transition it makes me think that Haiden could be close on occasion.
Wasn't his fault, there was high tide, a full moon, the vernal equinox, sun was in his eyes, setup was off, wore the wrong pair of ethika's exc.
Drivel? Stating that Haiden probably won’t beat Jett as a rookie, but will progress? Is that drivel? Or, should I just concede that no one will ever beat Jett and he will retire undefeated?
Is it drivel that I stated that Jett didn’t go undefeated in the 250s and that the class was inconsistent much like it is now? Or is that a fact?
Is it drivel calling out a sod for saying that if Deegan can’t go undefeated against a “crop of pussies”, then he’s unprepared to face Jett?
GTFO
The real issue is your complete lack of reading comprehension….I think some of you guys can’t read past a couple words and your emotions get the best of you..
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