Israel hits Iran

6/15/2025 9:38pm
I agree with you in most things but to say that Israel is a secular state is absurd. They are a Zionist Judaic fundamentalist state. They...

I agree with you in most things but to say that Israel is a secular state is absurd. They are a Zionist Judaic fundamentalist state. They are religious zealots no different from the Islamic zealots. Generally speaking and taken as a whole they absolutely hate anyone not Jewish and are not afraid to say so. I just dont understand how you could say that they’re some secular state that welcomes diversity? 

And please understand that I am not discounting the rest of your post on the dangers of Islam. I am not a fan of either

 

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Quite different - you won’t get executed for apostasy. In fact, you’re not required to believe anything in particular. The constitution doesn’t give ultimate authority to...

Quite different - you won’t get executed for apostasy. In fact, you’re not required to believe anything in particular. The constitution doesn’t give ultimate authority to a religious text. It’s a fundamentally different kind of government, even if you’re right about the prevalence of religious zealots. 

If you’re using Iran as your measuring stick for a liberal democracy then sure, Israel is indeed a liberal democracy. But if you’re to use any...

If you’re using Iran as your measuring stick for a liberal democracy then sure, Israel is indeed a liberal democracy. But if you’re to use any rational metric then no they are not. I just find it strange that someone who is generally level headed and objective in their opinions doesn’t see this. 

Israel passed their Nation-State law in 2018 that defines the country by law as a nation state of the Jewish people. A state designed and written in law as a state for the benefit of a certain race of people I do not think to be a liberal democracy. 

 Taking a step backwards and objectively observing how Israel ACTS is proof enough for me. I see a country willing to kill in the name of their God and religion. I see a country ACT as though they believe in their racial superiority over all others. And I see a religion that teaches and institutionalizes this idea of religious and racial superiority. 
All of those things a large portion of Islam is also guilty of. You say they are quite different. I think not. 

Bro, you cant reason with the HammerHead cucks in here. Israel’s expansionist Zionist state is pure evil grubby filth. Hard-line Islamist Iran is backwards archaic ideology as you probably know, but was a treasure before the Uprising. Both are intolerant scum. Both have killed over their beliefs, but Israel many more on their watch.
Some people just dont want to know reality when it hits their fragile pseudo-mucho facades. 
Probably whack off to re-runs of Golden Eagle or that Clint Eastwood abomination Firefox. 
Who’s funding this “Freedoms” hammerheads? 

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6/16/2025 3:39pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2025 3:40pm

Uh oh.

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aeffertz wrote:
Uh oh.

Uh oh.

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And just like that, the pointless cycle starts again.

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6/16/2025 4:54pm
aeffertz wrote:
Uh oh.

Uh oh.

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He desperately wants a deal, just because he likes making deals. I would suspect any deal would benefit him somehow (not directly) personally. He’s always looking for ways to make money. That didn’t cease when he became President. 

If he thought he would be praised for helping make a regime change in Iran, he’d be all over it. 

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60 days

And on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.

What’s the problem?

Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to Israel”! & “Death to America!” chanting terrorist fucks. Right? 

Hey, I know, why the fuck don’t you true peace lovers explain why Iran built a Tritium processing plant…and said it was a “Paint manufacturing facility”…so, uh…sure, explain. While you’re at it…Uranium enriched to what is clearly KNOWN AS “WEAPONS GRADE”…? Explain. 

The Donald is letting Israel protect itself from the PIECES OF SHIT THAT CREATED THE OCTOBER 7TH ATTACKS.

And, go figure, the narrative following minions don’t “get it”. Big surprise.

You guys are embarrassing yourselves, again. You hate The Donald so fucking much that you compromise yourselves…namely, your integrity. Not to mention, but…hey…why not… your limited intellect. 

You Can Not Make This Shit Up

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6/16/2025 5:04pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2025 5:10pm

^^^^👍^^^^

 

Now suddenly iran wants to talk.

🤔

 

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TeamGreen wrote:
60 daysAnd on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.What’s the problem?Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to...

60 days

And on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.

What’s the problem?

Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to Israel”! & “Death to America!” chanting terrorist fucks. Right? 

Hey, I know, why the fuck don’t you true peace lovers explain why Iran built a Tritium processing plant…and said it was a “Paint manufacturing facility”…so, uh…sure, explain. While you’re at it…Uranium enriched to what is clearly KNOWN AS “WEAPONS GRADE”…? Explain. 

The Donald is letting Israel protect itself from the PIECES OF SHIT THAT CREATED THE OCTOBER 7TH ATTACKS.

And, go figure, the narrative following minions don’t “get it”. Big surprise.

You guys are embarrassing yourselves, again. You hate The Donald so fucking much that you compromise yourselves…namely, your integrity. Not to mention, but…hey…why not… your limited intellect. 

You Can Not Make This Shit Up

I love how you crashout every time someone posts anything that isn't sucking Trump off. 

You guys need some dissenting voices in this hug box of yours. Also, definitely keep trying to make that signoff tagline a thing. It doesn't look stupid at all. I do find it amusing that all your posts read like you're doing this at your desk? Grinning

a man wearing a blue jacket is making a peace sign with his hands

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We all know Israel is a nuclear weapons force.

Yet they haven't used them.

Nor is there a need to.

 

Now, if iran was able to launch a nuclear warhead, only a fool would think that they wouldn't have used it by now.

 

When you have the world's largest sponser of terrorism constantly stating, death to Israel, death to America, you have to take them seriously. 

 

They've been given far more than the recent 60 to pull their heads out of their asses.

They kept stalling. 

They kept inspectors at bay.

They kept developing. 

They were close to both the weapon, and the means of delivery. 

 

They were thwarted. 

Big time.

 

And like I said earlier, their neighbors are breathing a sigh of relief as well.

None came to their defense. 

NONE !!!

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TeamGreen wrote:
60 daysAnd on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.What’s the problem?Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to...

60 days

And on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.

What’s the problem?

Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to Israel”! & “Death to America!” chanting terrorist fucks. Right? 

Hey, I know, why the fuck don’t you true peace lovers explain why Iran built a Tritium processing plant…and said it was a “Paint manufacturing facility”…so, uh…sure, explain. While you’re at it…Uranium enriched to what is clearly KNOWN AS “WEAPONS GRADE”…? Explain. 

The Donald is letting Israel protect itself from the PIECES OF SHIT THAT CREATED THE OCTOBER 7TH ATTACKS.

And, go figure, the narrative following minions don’t “get it”. Big surprise.

You guys are embarrassing yourselves, again. You hate The Donald so fucking much that you compromise yourselves…namely, your integrity. Not to mention, but…hey…why not… your limited intellect. 

You Can Not Make This Shit Up

aeffertz wrote:
I love how you crashout every time someone posts anything that isn't sucking Trump off. You guys need some dissenting voices in this hug box of yours...

I love how you crashout every time someone posts anything that isn't sucking Trump off. 

You guys need some dissenting voices in this hug box of yours. Also, definitely keep trying to make that signoff tagline a thing. It doesn't look stupid at all. I do find it amusing that all your posts read like you're doing this at your desk? Grinning

a man wearing a blue jacket is making a peace sign with his hands

Actually…

On my iPad while waiting for the service guys at the Ford shop…wanted fresh oil, air-filters and rotate for an Eastern Sierra fun-run manana. 

Oh, and, hey…thanks for playing along and proving my point. It’s clear…

You’re compromised.

Truth is, it’s like this…

You’re not a “dissenting voice”. You’re a discredited shill that’s repeating mainstream media and wannabe college poli-sci bullshit. You don’t understand that hundreds of thousands have died and continue to do so due to the 45 plus years of a terrorist regime in Tehran...which is why you come across the way you do. That makes you a bit of an ass. In fact, it makes you a fool. Just like the Palestinian Flag Waving kids on NY college campuses.

As for…

You Can Not Make This Shit Up

You just tried…and failed. Thus, it works.

Anyhoo…my Bronco is done. Me and Milo are hittin’ some altitude and some dez on the way to Tonopah Test Range. Maybe we’ll roll thru Death Valley after an early chow and coffee at China Lake? Sun up in Ridgecrest…yup…that works.

C’ya! 
 

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6/16/2025 5:49pm Edited Date/Time 6/16/2025 6:11pm

OH FUCK. I'VE BEEN COMPROMISED! Grinning

Yeah, I definitely just post MSM talking points. Projection much? Are there any main stream media outlets calling Israel an apartheid state? Also not surprised you are pro-genocide, that's what the news tells ya'.

Netanyahu's Iran nuclear bomb claim timeline: 

 

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I have no interest in the back and forth here between posting rivals.

My posting is about what may come to be - well, if the aim is to stop Iran from having 'The Bomb'.

Israel is now said to have near complete Air Superiority over Iran. Maybe with that, they can destroy Iran's launchers / launching systems, to stop the increasing hammering of their Towns and Cities. 

Everything I've read / seen in Videos, implies that Israel has Nothing in their armories' that can reach the entirety of Iran's Nuclear infrastructure.

They need what , it's said, the massive bombs and delivery systems ( Fuggin Big Planes) that the USA have, to 'complete' their aim of stopping Iran from having  Planet Destroyers.

So, I'd say  the USA will get drawn further into this, by Having to provide what is needed.

I would say it would have been far better to have already sold Israel the hardware needed to do the job ( though, some say Nothing will achieve it), long ago, but, that, really, wouldn't lessen the fall out ( bad pun, I know) towards "The Great Satan'' - which various F**kwits / Regimes have long called the USA.

Quite a few years ago, I did a fair amount of travelling throughout the Middle East. I met so many Wonderful People, who were so often living under dreadful, incredibly oppressive regimes. And, they Hated it. My heart goes out to those people, but F**k their Rulers. 

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Israel seems pretty capable. They should now have enough time to build their own bigger bombs and bigger bomb deliverers. 

 

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I have no interest in the back and forth here between posting rivals.My posting is about what may come to be - well, if the aim...

I have no interest in the back and forth here between posting rivals.

My posting is about what may come to be - well, if the aim is to stop Iran from having 'The Bomb'.

Israel is now said to have near complete Air Superiority over Iran. Maybe with that, they can destroy Iran's launchers / launching systems, to stop the increasing hammering of their Towns and Cities. 

Everything I've read / seen in Videos, implies that Israel has Nothing in their armories' that can reach the entirety of Iran's Nuclear infrastructure.

They need what , it's said, the massive bombs and delivery systems ( Fuggin Big Planes) that the USA have, to 'complete' their aim of stopping Iran from having  Planet Destroyers.

So, I'd say  the USA will get drawn further into this, by Having to provide what is needed.

I would say it would have been far better to have already sold Israel the hardware needed to do the job ( though, some say Nothing will achieve it), long ago, but, that, really, wouldn't lessen the fall out ( bad pun, I know) towards "The Great Satan'' - which various F**kwits / Regimes have long called the USA.

Quite a few years ago, I did a fair amount of travelling throughout the Middle East. I met so many Wonderful People, who were so often living under dreadful, incredibly oppressive regimes. And, they Hated it. My heart goes out to those people, but F**k their Rulers. 

Since Israel has Air Superiority, they could use C-130s...

New and Improved Israeli Hercules C-130HI | Joint Forces News

to deliver GBU-57A/Bs...

The US doesn't need to be drawn in further, besides being a weapons supplier.

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Since Israel has Air Superiority, they could use C-130s...to deliver GBU-57A/Bs...The US doesn't need to be drawn in further, besides being a weapons supplier.

Since Israel has Air Superiority, they could use C-130s...

New and Improved Israeli Hercules C-130HI | Joint Forces News

to deliver GBU-57A/Bs...

The US doesn't need to be drawn in further, besides being a weapons supplier.

That is , Indeed, what the USA, is - a weapons supplier to Israel, and, so many other countries are their customers. Other countries have supplied Israel,  too,  since Israel's inception. And, Israel, makes a heck of a lot of their own armaments. Love them or hate them, they are a resourceful bunch. 

As I wrote, I've not seen that Israel has these 'Mountain Levelers' ( I'll use that description, as I'm sure I'd get the acronym , for whatever can supposedly reach the depths required, wrong, and we'll see conniptions here about my mislabeling), Yet. 

I've read of the experiments / plans to use such 'planes' like C-130s for delivery of  massive weapons, and systems. Something like 'pallet', or 'container air delivery' systems, I think. 

I very much doubt their - the Israelis -  F35s can carry such a payload that can reach the roots of a Mountain, but, I  could, easily, be wrong. 

They, the Israelis, need to get the full 'job', done, now that they've opened up on Iran.. And they will need more supply / help to achieve it. .

Which, will draw the USA deeper into this. 

It's a vicious, shitty, fearful thing, but I sure as hell don't want Iran to have Nukes. As, the Mad Mullahs that so bedevil the Middle East, will use them. 

I've also been wondering if the Houthis / Hezbollah and other Iranian proxies will raise their heads. It's said that Hezbollah are hugely diminished, and the Houthis have ceased their predations ( at least of their attacking US interests), but, I'd never discount their coming back into play, in this Shitfight. 

PS, LS2 :

You see 4 Corners last night?

What's the odds on us getting seriously ripped off ? 

I think, it's almost inevitable. 

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There has been unrest in the middle east since the dawn of time. Israel has been milking the U.S. tax payer teat since 1948. Somehow, you think this is "new"?

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Bring the Shah back!

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Bring the Shah back!

I actually saw his Son (?) being interviewed on TV last night.

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There has been unrest in the middle east since the dawn of time. Israel has been milking the U.S. tax payer teat since 1948. Somehow, you...

There has been unrest in the middle east since the dawn of time. Israel has been milking the U.S. tax payer teat since 1948. Somehow, you think this is "new"?

The USA in active combat in and against Iran would be kind of new.

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TeamGreen wrote:
60 daysAnd on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.What’s the problem?Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to...

60 days

And on the 61st day…they were told to fuck off.

What’s the problem?

Wait, I know, you peace lovers are on the side of the “Death to Israel”! & “Death to America!” chanting terrorist fucks. Right? 

Hey, I know, why the fuck don’t you true peace lovers explain why Iran built a Tritium processing plant…and said it was a “Paint manufacturing facility”…so, uh…sure, explain. While you’re at it…Uranium enriched to what is clearly KNOWN AS “WEAPONS GRADE”…? Explain. 

The Donald is letting Israel protect itself from the PIECES OF SHIT THAT CREATED THE OCTOBER 7TH ATTACKS.

And, go figure, the narrative following minions don’t “get it”. Big surprise.

You guys are embarrassing yourselves, again. You hate The Donald so fucking much that you compromise yourselves…namely, your integrity. Not to mention, but…hey…why not… your limited intellect. 

You Can Not Make This Shit Up

aeffertz wrote:
I love how you crashout every time someone posts anything that isn't sucking Trump off. You guys need some dissenting voices in this hug box of yours...

I love how you crashout every time someone posts anything that isn't sucking Trump off. 

You guys need some dissenting voices in this hug box of yours. Also, definitely keep trying to make that signoff tagline a thing. It doesn't look stupid at all. I do find it amusing that all your posts read like you're doing this at your desk? Grinning

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TeamGreen wrote:
Actually…On my iPad while waiting for the service guys at the Ford shop…wanted fresh oil, air-filters and rotate for an Eastern Sierra fun-run manana. Oh, and, hey…thanks...

Actually…

On my iPad while waiting for the service guys at the Ford shop…wanted fresh oil, air-filters and rotate for an Eastern Sierra fun-run manana. 

Oh, and, hey…thanks for playing along and proving my point. It’s clear…

You’re compromised.

Truth is, it’s like this…

You’re not a “dissenting voice”. You’re a discredited shill that’s repeating mainstream media and wannabe college poli-sci bullshit. You don’t understand that hundreds of thousands have died and continue to do so due to the 45 plus years of a terrorist regime in Tehran...which is why you come across the way you do. That makes you a bit of an ass. In fact, it makes you a fool. Just like the Palestinian Flag Waving kids on NY college campuses.

As for…

You Can Not Make This Shit Up

You just tried…and failed. Thus, it works.

Anyhoo…my Bronco is done. Me and Milo are hittin’ some altitude and some dez on the way to Tonopah Test Range. Maybe we’ll roll thru Death Valley after an early chow and coffee at China Lake? Sun up in Ridgecrest…yup…that works.

C’ya! 
 

I remember you calling everyone in here who wanted to help support Ukraine a warmonger.

I find it interesting that you’re now in support of America helping invade another country.

Not that I’m against the downfall of the Iranian regime, but it seems like you will only ever agree with whatever your supreme leader says..

So maybe you can’t make shit up, you just regurgitate what ever the Taco says.

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Iran has stated the destruction of Israel as an objective. Iran is actively working on developing nuclear capability. It is rational for Israel to put a...

Iran has stated the destruction of Israel as an objective. Iran is actively working on developing nuclear capability. It is rational for Israel to put a stop to that development. I hope Israel's actions are effective, minimize civilian casualties on all sides, and are over quickly. 

Israel is an American ally in a part of the world where most of its neighbors are hostile to America. Anyone who doubts Israel's strategic importance or can't see the significance of a healthy, functioning liberal democracy in such a generally illiberal part of the world  where Islamic Sharia law oppresses millions of people, I really don't know what to tell you. When I say "liberal", I mean it in the broad sense of having freedoms such as religion, speech, press, etc. and rule of secular law vs theocracy - unfortunately, the word "liberal' in contemporary North America has mostly been hijacked by idiots. 

Iran hasn't destroyed Israel for just one simple reason: They can't. It needs to stay that way. 

I agree with you in most things but to say that Israel is a secular state is absurd. They are a Zionist Judaic fundamentalist state. They...

I agree with you in most things but to say that Israel is a secular state is absurd. They are a Zionist Judaic fundamentalist state. They are religious zealots no different from the Islamic zealots. Generally speaking and taken as a whole they absolutely hate anyone not Jewish and are not afraid to say so. I just dont understand how you could say that they’re some secular state that welcomes diversity? 

And please understand that I am not discounting the rest of your post on the dangers of Islam. I am not a fan of either

 

Absolutely absurd thing to say. If you had to choose to move to a neighborhood full of fundamentalist Islamists or Jews it would be an easy decision and you know it. They are not the same. If Israel held similar beliefs as Islamists do about their enemies the Middle East would be a nuclear wasteland. 

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There has been unrest in the middle east since the dawn of time. Israel has been milking the U.S. tax payer teat since 1948. Somehow, you...

There has been unrest in the middle east since the dawn of time. Israel has been milking the U.S. tax payer teat since 1948. Somehow, you think this is "new"?

Like Geptepto! 

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Bring the Shah back!

Hell yeah! 😂

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And just like that, the pointless cycle starts again.

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Tomahawks at dawn from a naval carrier and a huge air presence from Israel I heard from a little birdy yesterday for tomorrow depending on how today goes. Well it looks like its going to shit so let's see how that prediction holds up.

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I remember you calling everyone in here who wanted to help support Ukraine a warmonger.I find it interesting that you’re now in support of America helping...

I remember you calling everyone in here who wanted to help support Ukraine a warmonger.

I find it interesting that you’re now in support of America helping invade another country.

Not that I’m against the downfall of the Iranian regime, but it seems like you will only ever agree with whatever your supreme leader says..

So maybe you can’t make shit up, you just regurgitate what ever the Taco says.

If you cant see the major  difference between Russia and Iran and the difference in the wars themselves then thats on you. Both allies but both enemies are vastly different with different consequences to how you handle it.

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