Matthes, Gypsy, GL8 Drama 🍿

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6/14/2025 9:05pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 9:05pm
EVH4Ever wrote:
Where did all the negativity begin towards Grant? The dude has always been a straight up guy. Let alone one of the fastest 125 guys on...

Where did all the negativity begin towards Grant? The dude has always been a straight up guy. Let alone one of the fastest 125 guys on the planet.

He’s been having some issues since Covid. Hard to tell if it’s substance related or not but I think it’s clear he needs some help. It also doesn’t help that he went on Kooksy’s pod recently. 

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6/14/2025 9:11pm Edited Date/Time 6/14/2025 9:36pm

Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice but I’m gonna side with GL.  Grant calls it like he sees it no bullshit.  He drinks ?  I’d be honored to knock back a few brews with a champ like him and talk about all his number 1 plates he grinded out here in USA 

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6/14/2025 9:13pm

This will explain journalism in our sport. This isn’t my opinion, I’ve never had a problem with Mathes and I do listen to two of his pods every week(not Pulp). 

 I was trying to get a friend who owns a very successful investment firm, who doesn’t know much about supercross to sponsor a rider. He went to a couple races on his own and did some homework to get a true fans perspective. 

 He had a lot of negative things to say, but he was absolutely blown away that Mathes is the journalistic face of the sport.  

He never sponsored the rider, but he does watch supercross now. 
 

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He’s been having some issues since Covid. Hard to tell if it’s substance related or not but I think it’s clear he needs some help. It...

He’s been having some issues since Covid. Hard to tell if it’s substance related or not but I think it’s clear he needs some help. It also doesn’t help that he went on Kooksy’s pod recently. 

Thank you very much for the explanation and that saddens me. I truly hope he’s doing better and getting some help. Most people don’t understand what it’s like in these situations. The decisions you make at the moment aren’t a true reflection of your character. Grant is human like all of us and is deserving of some compassion.

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Grant Langston was a phenomenal motocross racer and a great addition to a broadcast team, and as a broadcaster I really enjoyed his insight. The day he declared himself a medical professional he lost me, you're allowed your personal beliefs and opinions but the way he has carried on that basically if you don't agree with him you're an idiot has really only reflected on him poorly. It's been a very steep downward spiral since then.

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TogaSet wrote:
Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice...

Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice but I’m gonna side with GL.  Grant calls it like he sees it no bullshit.  He drinks ?  I’d be honored to knock back a few brews with a champ like him and talk about all his number 1 plates he grinded out here in USA 

I think Matthes calls it like he sees it also. I don’t agree with his politics but I listen to his takes on things. Society as a whole stopped listening to anyone that doesn’t believe exactly what they believe. 

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If I remember correctly Steve versions why not having Ping on the show was that he was demanding a lot of money compared to others hosts...

If I remember correctly Steve versions why not having Ping on the show was that he was demanding a lot of money compared to others hosts at the time. Obviously we will never know the real reason 100% but it’s word against word and it’s Steve’s show so he decides who he has on and if that hurt Ping maybe someone should check their ego. 

I liked Ping earlier, but he’s been a really sensitive and whiny the last years. The Roczen bike debacle was such a shit show and how he hates Ken since then. 

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I liked him to, But during Covid both Ping and GL lost it for me. I want my moto content being moto, not the guys personal...

I liked him to, But during Covid both Ping and GL lost it for me. I want my moto content being moto, not the guys personal political values.

Same, I should not know who ping, GL, cooksie, brian deegan vote for. I couldnt give less of a shit. Were inundated with the politics crap 24/7 365 already and we go to moto to get away from that bs for a bit. So tired of these guys trying to get politics into moto. I dont follow ping to learn about what the newest conspiracy theory is, I followed him to hear about moto. Shits lame af. 

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JustMX wrote:
So, i am having a bit of insomnia and decided reading a 10 pager all about moto drama would make me drowsey.I learned that matthes is...

So, i am having a bit of insomnia and decided reading a 10 pager all about moto drama would make me drowsey.

I learned that matthes is a fat liberal canadian that learned to help privateers so he could be like pablo escobar.

I learned that brian deegan bullied pastrana so badly that tp stombed deegan like a cockroach in every fmx competition they ever did and could buy and sell deegan 10 times until brian started cashing haidens checks.

It was also eye opening that gl blamed matthes for getting fired from his broadcast gig because he would not get a covid vaccine like everybody else that wanted to be involved In events in 2020, per covid guidelines promoters agreed to follow to be able to have events.

Some unnamed entity is also responsible for a cute bear getting into a trash can. I missed who it was, but they must be gay, because there seems to be a lot of animosity directed at them.

I appreciate all that sought to enlighten the moto masses with various politically relevant opinions that are so articulate and well stated.

Unfortunately this little 10 page journey has not helped my sleeplessness, so i am off to find on demand episodes of "real house wives" or "teen mom".

I feel like this discussion has fully prepped me for a binge of similar drama.

As i leave i wish all here a pleasant evening, and urge all of you, please, do not step in front of a train.

You missed the $5k challenge Matthes put up to GL to prove he sued Yamaha. 

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Grant Langston was a phenomenal motocross racer and a great addition to a broadcast team, and as a broadcaster I really enjoyed his insight. The day...

Grant Langston was a phenomenal motocross racer and a great addition to a broadcast team, and as a broadcaster I really enjoyed his insight. The day he declared himself a medical professional he lost me, you're allowed your personal beliefs and opinions but the way he has carried on that basically if you don't agree with him you're an idiot has really only reflected on him poorly. It's been a very steep downward spiral since then.

Every time I see a new video of him he seems drunk. If you want to really figure out where his disdain for Steve started, I personally think it was after his last appearance on Pulp. If I'm remembering correctly, he got so wasted on the show he started to make a fool of himself on the air and afterwards he threw up all over himself and the driver's car when they were taking him to his hotel. I don't think he has been on the show since and a lot of sly remarks from GL started slowly coming out over time. It almost felt like GL thought it was Steve's fault for making him look like such a mess that night.

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Donalds mother had his name branded on himself too.  Baby got back!

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6/14/2025 11:38pm
UpTiTe wrote:
This will explain journalism in our sport. This isn’t my opinion, I’ve never had a problem with Mathes and I do listen to two of his...

This will explain journalism in our sport. This isn’t my opinion, I’ve never had a problem with Mathes and I do listen to two of his pods every week(not Pulp). 

 I was trying to get a friend who owns a very successful investment firm, who doesn’t know much about supercross to sponsor a rider. He went to a couple races on his own and did some homework to get a true fans perspective. 

 He had a lot of negative things to say, but he was absolutely blown away that Mathes is the journalistic face of the sport.  

He never sponsored the rider, but he does watch supercross now. 
 

What sport is he comparing it to? Who is the bar for the face of a sport?

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6/14/2025 11:55pm
aeffertz wrote:
Matthes responds to Deegan:I’m out. Someone else can try to keep up with it now :lol:

Matthes responds to Deegan:

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I’m out. Someone else can try to keep up with it now Grinning

Steve has a big mouth, he's the type to get punched and call the police when hes equally at fault. 

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6/15/2025 12:06am Edited Date/Time 6/15/2025 12:09am
Yamabog wrote:
Are you fucking retarded? No one said anything political. This is about Steve giving THOUSANDS to Jerry and then he goes and likes some drunk wonky eyed...

Are you fucking retarded? No one said anything political. 

This is about Steve giving THOUSANDS to Jerry and then he goes and likes some drunk wonky eyed monkey’s post about NOTHINGburger discrediting Steve. 

I think some people are taking this way too serious... maybe Jerry just thought it was funny and liked it? maybe hes not so emotionally attached to this situation like a lot of other people ? doesn't necessarily mean he agrees with it or is picking a side. 

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Mathes is the most liberbal obese person in our sport.

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If it’s not the atrocious commentary (thank god we get some respite during outdoors) we watch journalists have pathetic beefs. 

This sport is so pathetic at times. 

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BobPA wrote:
They should have a boxing ring setup at every national....Cool Hand Luke style, duke it out on Saturday afternoon. I bet there would be a lot...

They should have a boxing ring setup at every national....Cool Hand Luke style, duke it out on Saturday afternoon. I bet there would be a lot less petty BS social media fights.

jazza167 wrote:
Brooo no way, the Brazilian ju Gypsy would clean house……All seriousness I’d watch matthes and the general throw down. Would enjoy seeing Brian get man handled...

Brooo no way, the Brazilian ju Gypsy would clean house……

All seriousness I’d watch matthes and the general throw down. Would enjoy seeing Brian get man handled by an out of shape Canadian liberal 😂

UpTiTe wrote:

I don’t care for Brian, but hes smashing Mathis, and Gypsy is smashing pretty much everyone in the pits.  

Yes, but back when Matthes was morbidly obese he could have squashed Brian. 

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I don't care for anyone's political beliefs but I do remember the days when Steve use to be the edgy one. He didn't care if he upset riders as long as the info was true and relevant? He used to laugh how several riders didn't like him. Now he and the pod are doing well with major sponsors he's worried about upsetting riders?? I get it but just admit it he's changed. 

To be honest I miss the much more loose, rowdier, sometimes drunk pulp podcast. It all charged the moment he got that Yamaha sponsorship. 

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Matthes, Gypsy, GL8 Drama.....sounds like a partial lineup of bands at Bonnaroo

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6/15/2025 1:32am
TogaSet wrote:
Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice...

Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice but I’m gonna side with GL.  Grant calls it like he sees it no bullshit.  He drinks ?  I’d be honored to knock back a few brews with a champ like him and talk about all his number 1 plates he grinded out here in USA 

err But Grant is commenting on journalism. not racing? 

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dingaling wrote:
I don't care for anyone's political beliefs but I do remember the days when Steve use to be the edgy one. He didn't care if he...

I don't care for anyone's political beliefs but I do remember the days when Steve use to be the edgy one. He didn't care if he upset riders as long as the info was true and relevant? He used to laugh how several riders didn't like him. Now he and the pod are doing well with major sponsors he's worried about upsetting riders?? I get it but just admit it he's changed. 

To be honest I miss the much more loose, rowdier, sometimes drunk pulp podcast. It all charged the moment he got that Yamaha sponsorship. 

Agree, Things like mark pellgrino and tony alessi call in’s are just not there anymore 

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Deegan (Brian) has completely called out Steve for how he runs things. Steve Looks out for the little guy more than anyone in that position. Not just the racers'. but giving podcast opportunity to many. 

Deegan is all about himself and money.

Gypsy lowered himself  to cooksey level. I know personally that Gypsy has hated Steve since the year Kenny went to the states. maybe earlier. Just waits for openings to make shots. Hoppers question was not a fair question to ask AP. especially cause AP is so cool and will of course get himself in trouble.

Lets wait until Little deegs is trying to hide getting a ride elsewhere and media spots him the same way. Big Deegs will melt down.

Side note. when can we respect Deegs without his dad? Like time to pass the torch

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englishman wrote:
Interesting thread.I think what we need to remind ourselves that all these people are extremely immature and uneducated.We also saw that recently with Lawrence brothers agents...

Interesting thread.

I think what we need to remind ourselves that all these people are extremely immature and uneducated.

We also saw that recently with Lawrence brothers agents behavior. 

Yes they can appear to be grown men -  have families, businesses etc . 

But.

They are emotionally stuck in the late teen / early 20’s stage of brain development. Part of that stage is a limited ability to moderate your emotions and a tendency toward impulsive behavior which all the guys in this little contretemps are displaying. 

This stage of development also entails the “imaginary audience” phase - basically where you think people are really interested in what you say and/or do. Also an inability to grasp realistic perspectives and an inflated sense of self.  There are many other behavioral traits displayed at this stage.

Most people grow out of this and mature by late 20’s / early 30’s . Some don’t ..

We should all empathize with these people because whilst most of us mature as we gain age these poor guys will be forever stuck in a revolving door of childlike behavior and more than likely have conflict and issues with others throughout life. 

Sad and as many here have said all made worse by airing their little spat in public. 

Some people grow up, others just get bigger...

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As they said: "the dumber - the more engaging!"
10 pages of we racing fans discussing about a couple of journalist's ego-fight on social media.
 

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EVH4Ever wrote:
Where did all the negativity begin towards Grant? The dude has always been a straight up guy. Let alone one of the fastest 125 guys on...

Where did all the negativity begin towards Grant? The dude has always been a straight up guy. Let alone one of the fastest 125 guys on the planet.

When he brake checked Bonds for daring to race him ending his mx career before it started

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Deegan (Brian) has completely called out Steve for how he runs things. Steve Looks out for the little guy more than anyone in that position. Not...

Deegan (Brian) has completely called out Steve for how he runs things. Steve Looks out for the little guy more than anyone in that position. Not just the racers'. but giving podcast opportunity to many. 

Deegan is all about himself and money.

Gypsy lowered himself  to cooksey level. I know personally that Gypsy has hated Steve since the year Kenny went to the states. maybe earlier. Just waits for openings to make shots. Hoppers question was not a fair question to ask AP. especially cause AP is so cool and will of course get himself in trouble.

Lets wait until Little deegs is trying to hide getting a ride elsewhere and media spots him the same way. Big Deegs will melt down.

Side note. when can we respect Deegs without his dad? Like time to pass the torch

Gypsy lowered himself to Kooksey levels? When? Cite specific examples. I rarely watch his stuff so I'm genuinely curious 

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I’m starting to like hopper he did the start block breakdown video with details and clips. 
 

Honestly think Steve is a little bummed about his clicks too because other media is getting more then him. 

Claims he doesn’t do click bait stuff then chops up his show into shorter segments and gives it a click bait title… he does the same shit. 

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Deegan joins in on the fun. 

Deegan joins in on the fun. 
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“Makes a living off of the riders, not the other way around”Steve’s successfully used his platform to put almost a million dollars back into the pockets...

“Makes a living off of the riders, not the other way around”

Steve’s successfully used his platform to put almost a million dollars back into the pockets of privateers with his LCQ challenge.

Fatty would skim Cream from the pot. Wouldnt be a surprise.

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UpTiTe wrote:
This will explain journalism in our sport. This isn’t my opinion, I’ve never had a problem with Mathes and I do listen to two of his...

This will explain journalism in our sport. This isn’t my opinion, I’ve never had a problem with Mathes and I do listen to two of his pods every week(not Pulp). 

 I was trying to get a friend who owns a very successful investment firm, who doesn’t know much about supercross to sponsor a rider. He went to a couple races on his own and did some homework to get a true fans perspective. 

 He had a lot of negative things to say, but he was absolutely blown away that Mathes is the journalistic face of the sport.  

He never sponsored the rider, but he does watch supercross now. 
 

This says more about the other journalists and the people consuming the content than it does about matthes.

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TogaSet wrote:
Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice...

Langston the euro champ and USA champ won every title here except 450 supercross vs Steve the ex mechanic journalist.   Hmmm that’s a tough choice but I’m gonna side with GL.  Grant calls it like he sees it no bullshit.  He drinks ?  I’d be honored to knock back a few brews with a champ like him and talk about all his number 1 plates he grinded out here in USA 

Who’s side are you on RC or Blair? I’m guessing RC?

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