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I believe Crusty is referencing Australia being the current MXdN winners 😆
Hey Spode33, I take it you've never seen Jeffrey Herlings race in his prime? Perhaps you remember Ironman 2017?
Its done for more riders than any other brand, anyone who has ridden it in Europe for the last 5 years will attest to that.
Ben Watson finally found something that gave him what he wanted, and the the team changed it back, Seewer hated it and couldnt get it changed to suit him, Mitch Evans did nothing on it,and Jonass is doing the same,
Anderson , AC, Weimer, and Tickle all struggled with it , as did Savatgy.
Tomac left because he couldnt get the bike changed.
The team is clueless? That is absolutely the winningest 450 team on the gate by far.
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They had RV and Tomac and Stewart, and as a result of having the best riders, they wouldnt entertain that the bike needed work for other riders.
Well documented. Ask Weimer.
What’s your beef with Webb? Doing better than you expected outdoors?
Webb hurt his precious little feelings somehow. Maybe because his compatriot Jett didn't get the SX title this year. Poor guy.
I think Webb's a fat lazy turd with zero style who most of the time can't be fucked doing outdoors. That's pretty clear cut.
Sorry the des nations is not comparable. In the USA the riders get up to $150k for win bonuses, in the des nations they get nothing. You can't tell me that doesn't effect motivation, even if the rider states it doesn't.
You are taking a what, 8 year old reference for Suzuki and KTM, that the Kawi is not the issue at the moment? 😂
Bike is the issue. If it ain't tailored to the rider it won't work.
If bike wasn't the issue, Jett would leave it as ia. Still they did testing all last week. Tomac had to change shock setting for second moto.
AP went wrong direction and couldn't ride it in second moto. Hymas went 1 1 after dialing in the bike from first races and being sick last weekend. Tomac went from 1-2, to 5-7 when setting wasn't right. Stew refuse to ride without factory ECU. RC requires a super special setup. RV even more so. McGrath used old frames because the new was so bad. Jcoop was throwing factory wheels off the bike for stock wheels to try and get comfort.
Sure, it can not be the bike for Prado when he ends up 5th....
I haven't seen one rider last 10, or 20 years where a mental switch has made someone go from top 5 to winning races. And you will never find one either.
Still we have people sitting on a forum, that would be 30 sec a lap slower claiming they should just get over it and ride.
I guess if he doesn't have unobtanium then he can't hang. That appears to be the sentiment....
So champions overcame the limitations of the bIke and didnt make excuses. Interesting.
Crazy that Prados expectations went from world championships to Jake Weimer.
How do you suppose AP7, CS1, or ET3 would do in the GP’s? Better than Jorge?
🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ always crazy takes from you. Always….
I'm going to give it a couple more rounds. He got hurt early in SX. He's in a completely different world over here where he doesn't get to spend the day before riding the track for an hour and he hasn't ridden these tracks. He went from a world where they have carte blanch to fit the bike to the rider to one with many more limitations on what they can do and a team that has been historically stubborn to give riders what they want when it isn't what the team thinks they should have. I do wonder why he signed with Kawi based on that factor though. We are three rounds in and two of them have been exceptionally difficult days. Hangtown was hot as balls and the way Thunder Valley shaped up it was not a track conducive to figuring out your issues. That track was wildly difficult and took 110 percent focus. If Kaw can give him the power he wants (and it sounds like that is a big if) and he gets some settings he likes I won't be surprised to see some improvements especially at places like Southwick, Red Bud and Millville. I want the dude to get up there and run with the boys at least in the top 5. Part of what this shows is just like when RV went to MXGP it is not an easy transition.
My Panic button broke. I am now pressing the going but to MXGP button
I don't think they would be in 7th place a minute behind the leaders. Everyone laments RV's GP experience, but he won a race within 4 races.
If Chase and Eli went to GPs they'd be on the podium. If Jorge was only racing outdoors in the US, he'd be on the podium.
I dont know why the Euro bros can't just acknowledge that racing SX makes things much more difficult. It seems like they believe that admitting to that would suddenly invalidate how good GP riders really are, which is dumb.
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So with that being said..Prado should win next week!
They will still probably end up with the title.
Send some motors to Twisted Development with orders for more power! Somebody has to know how to get more ponies.
The bike was fine for Anderson in sx, he podiumed like 4 outta the first 8 rounds or something. I think Prado thought he’d have these guys covered outdoors and Jett, Eli, AP are all hauling ass. I’m pretty sure there was an interview with Prado last year or the year before on gatedrop.com where Prado was saying he could beat Jett. Reality might be hitting him pretty hard right now, or maybe he should’ve came over on a 250 after he won his MX2 titles like Vialle.
Jett raised the bar now AP, Eli, and Sexton have stepped it up. Prado will have to do the same.
Team Kawasaki is like the factory yamaha of back in the day. A bunch of staff and crew members who are comfortable n collect those big checks. There egos know everything
Hard to push the limit if you aren't comfortable on the bike. If you are rolling to the gate with any doubt in your setup you've already lost the race.
Even Tomacs bike looks busy as hell out there compared to Jett's bike. Tomac just happens to be a psycho that will continue twist the throttle through headshake on a gnarly rutted track while being 28 mins into a 30 min moto.
Yea Tomac will keep accelerating all crossed up and swapping until he sees Jesus, then he’ll hold it wide open for 5 more seconds while
other riders have their braking marks and acceleration points. Tomac is just built different
AP starting to ride like Tomac a bit now also.
Not sure that it is Tomac's bike that looks busy as much as it is Tomac. Jett is a wizard at seeking out the smooth, momentum saving lines. On top of that, he just has a very smooth, fluid style. Tomac is like a honey badger and just doesn't give a shit....his answer is always more throttle. I've really learned to appreciate Jett's riding style and finesse, but damn, Tomac is by far the most fun to watch in the 450's.
Panic button has to be pressed after the last weekend.
Sure, he has multiple things that is against him (new bike, team, tracks, format etc). But Prado is an elite rider, even with these things against him he should be able to finish much, much closer to the winners where he and the team expects him to eventually be at.
Then factor in the complete wash that the SX season was, things are looking grim to be honest.
You’re saying he only won titles because of track familiarity, track time and a GP spec bike? As in, the same 3 things that all of his competitors have also???
No, I think he's saying there are 7 dudes ahead of Prado only because they know which way the track goes 😆
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