Food poisoning?

6/2/2025 2:17pm
Xeno wrote:

I think pro motocrossers are more susceptible gut problems becuase they train so hard and travel every week.

And they need to eat more gas station meals to harden their stomachs up.

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6/2/2025 5:32pm
Xeno wrote:

I think pro motocrossers are more susceptible gut problems becuase they train so hard and travel every week.

Remember the training thread ? They only train 20 some hrs a week.  They fly no fatigue involved in that . I used to fly ever...

Remember the training thread ? They only train 20 some hrs a week.  They fly no fatigue involved in that . I used to fly ever 10 days for work.  Travel truckers work 20-40+ hr days for months straight without a day off.  Hand unloading 45,000 lbs in a 250 degree trailer for 10 hrs.  I live on turkey & cheese flying j or pilot sandwiches 7 days a week for months straight. . Even walk 3/4 of a mile across in tall weeds to get them.  I fell in a 2 1/2 ft deep hole in the dark coming back.  My ankle throbbed for 6 weeks.   You do get diarrhea when your young 19- into 20,s pretty easy though.   Hospital called they said my insurance denied the injection.  What bs they did this b4 at the last minute. 

Profesenal125, you never disappoint.  

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6/2/2025 5:51pm

If he had real food poisoning and was puking and pissing out his rear end for a few days that would severely dehydrate him, so it isn’t that big a stretch to say Chance was told to sit out moto 2 … he probably had no business being at Hangtown at all! 

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6/2/2025 7:05pm

It’s a great excuse for anything. Nobody’s going to question diarrhea.

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6/2/2025 8:39pm

What are the rules on IV’s? If I recall it was said in reference to GNCC it’s 72 hours before an event and doctor recommended immediately after an event. I know it’s technically not allowed between motos but what about night before or morning of?

6/2/2025 8:52pm
Xeno wrote:

I think pro motocrossers are more susceptible gut problems becuase they train so hard and travel every week.

And they need to eat more gas station meals to harden their stomachs up.

2 tornadoes a morning will keep the doctor away 

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6/2/2025 10:40pm

Yea man idk. I think I had it once as a kid. Im mid 30s nothing even close. I eat a super healthy diet track everything and don't cheat. I mainly eat all chicken with some white fish and sometimes its sketchy but never got it.  Old chicken, undercooked in a hurry and nothing. I mention this because these guys are probably on a very similar diet. When I was younger I've eaten fresh killed raw venison and rare venison all the time....nothing. I think its excuses. 

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6/3/2025 5:06am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2025 5:57am
JazzyJJ wrote:

Specifically what PED would cause food poisoning like symptoms?

3strokemx wrote:

caffeine overdose could do that,  other stimulants as well

JazzyJJ wrote:

ODing on caffeine takes a ton, more than you could drink and more than anyone who has half a brain would attempt to consume. 

 

Maybe overdose isn't the right word.  

The amount of caffeine required to make a person dizzy, nauseous, and shitting their pants..................  that wouldn't necessarily be a wild amount.  

Could easily be a 32oz coffee for a 150lb person with no tolerance. 
 

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6/3/2025 5:34am

I think a lot of it has to do with all the travel these guys do. 

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6/3/2025 5:39am
aeffertz wrote:
What’s with these pro guys getting food poisoning all the time? Have y’all ever had it? Seems like some of these guys get it once a...

What’s with these pro guys getting food poisoning all the time? Have y’all ever had it? Seems like some of these guys get it once a year. 

Hymas said he got food poisoning a week ago and still dealing with the side effects. I didn’t think it stuck around that long? I had some bad chicken from Subway once but that basically just ruined my night after it came back up and I was back to normal the next day. 

Its not “bad chicken”. Food poisoning means you literally ate poo crumbs from someone else.

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6/3/2025 5:52am

Its not “bad chicken”. Food poisoning means you literally ate poo crumbs from someone else.

Oh No, here we go

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6/3/2025 5:55am

Years ago when I worked at 2 different hotels with a restaurant I got food poisoning after eating spaghetti and meatballs both times.

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6/3/2025 7:25am
MXer391 wrote:
Seeing how a lot of these guys have a nutritionist, I find it extremely unlikely that they would eat any contaminated food. I really like to...

Seeing how a lot of these guys have a nutritionist, I find it extremely unlikely that they would eat any contaminated food. I really like to give rider's the benefit of the doubt because they are awesome athletes, but it sure sounds like an excuse. I remember Max Vohland saying he ate some bad soup from Olive Garden one time, LOL C'mon dude. Now, I could definitely see rider's contacting a stomach virus traveling during the supercross season when it's cold. But food poisoning? Nah, not buying it. Just say you were nervous, or burned out during the week, or tired, whatever...

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If you know Max, you would know… that boy LOVES Olive Garden. Especially the Alfredo

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When the Dallas supercross was held at Texas Stadium the Olive Garden across the highway was the place to see all of the factory riders on...

When the Dallas supercross was held at Texas Stadium the Olive Garden across the highway was the place to see all of the factory riders on Friday night. lol

Yuck. Olive Garden is such hot garbage. Definitely at the bottom of the list from those chain restaurants. I could do Longhorn or maybe Texas Roadhouse. But if I'm going out to eat its at a "real" restaurant, a Mom and Pop joint

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6/3/2025 7:54am
aeffertz wrote:
What’s with these pro guys getting food poisoning all the time? Have y’all ever had it? Seems like some of these guys get it once a...

What’s with these pro guys getting food poisoning all the time? Have y’all ever had it? Seems like some of these guys get it once a year. 

Hymas said he got food poisoning a week ago and still dealing with the side effects. I didn’t think it stuck around that long? I had some bad chicken from Subway once but that basically just ruined my night after it came back up and I was back to normal the next day. 

Its not “bad chicken”. Food poisoning means you literally ate poo crumbs from someone else.

Alright. Well if there’s poo on my chicken, I’m gonna consider that to be bad chicken!

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6/3/2025 8:31am
Xeno wrote:

I think pro motocrossers are more susceptible gut problems becuase they train so hard and travel every week.

And they need to eat more gas station meals to harden their stomachs up.

Oh man, I went through a phase where I was eating healthy and one Sunday on the way to do a hike i stopped and got my old gas station meal of a pizza pocket, diet 7-up and a 3 musketeers candy bar. 

Whoah! Massive stomach cramps! Ended up pulling off the road and jumping behind some trees and barely being able to get my trousers down before the explosion happened. Sweating, exhausted, thoroughly emptied out. Not cool.

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6/3/2025 8:38am

Could it be related to CNS fatigue? Overtraining?

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6/3/2025 8:41am

So what’s he hiding?  Probably just didn’t feel like racing Saturday and made a excuse?  What horrible thing has he done that we should be upset about? I really want to be mad at him. I just need to know what I’m mad about.

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6/3/2025 9:03am

Pretty heavy accusation that he's tanking on purpose. I just don't see it. But......he is a head case. I dont fucking know

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6/3/2025 9:13am

Could it be related to CNS fatigue? Overtraining?

Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can do 30 hours weeks easily and recover well. This is assuming your sleep/nutrition etc is dialed in. 

 

CNS fatigue is a boogeyman, it's possible but not really plausible IMO 

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I have diarrhea right now

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I have diarrhea right now

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6/3/2025 10:03am

In 2016 I was a part of a riders impromptu birthday celebration on a Thursday night into Friday morning before he flew out for a SX. 

Unfortunately, he contracted "food poisoning" and it severely affected his Saturday performance.

I don't think that applies to most scenarios, but I have seen it used as an official scapegoat lol. 

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6/3/2025 10:36am

Just so we are clear on a couple things here. Food poisoning and a stomach virus are two different things. I am not doubting that either of these things happen to the riders. What I am saying is that food poisoning would be farrrrrr less common than getting a stomach virus and Motocross riders somehow seem to get it more often than any other human being. I am not doubting that Hymas was sick whatsoever. Just don't call it food poisoning if that's not what it really is. 

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6/3/2025 10:47am
JazzyJJ wrote:
Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can...

Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can do 30 hours weeks easily and recover well. This is assuming your sleep/nutrition etc is dialed in. 

 

CNS fatigue is a boogeyman, it's possible but not really plausible IMO 

I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  
No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   
Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you start going in a hole if you don't have enough recovery, hormones get messed up, etc.  

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6/3/2025 11:06am

With the amount these guys travel it's going to happen when eating meals in all different places.  I went to a high end wedding and me and my lady came home puking and pissing diarrhea all night long.  Nearly everyone who attended the wedding got the nasty norovirus.  It was a high end caterer, so it can happen anywhere.

Combine that with flying commercial which is basically like flying in a germ capsule.  There's always a few low life scumbags who don't know manners and end up coughing/sneezing all flight without covering mouths.  

Being on the road and being healthy is very difficult to avoid sickness.

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6/3/2025 11:19am Edited Date/Time 6/3/2025 11:21am
JazzyJJ wrote:
Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can...

Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can do 30 hours weeks easily and recover well. This is assuming your sleep/nutrition etc is dialed in. 

 

CNS fatigue is a boogeyman, it's possible but not really plausible IMO 

3strokemx wrote:
I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you...

I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  
No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   
Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you start going in a hole if you don't have enough recovery, hormones get messed up, etc.  

Maybe we have different definitions, were you making a living as a cyclist? Even local P12 riders are doing 20 hour weeks, especially in the offseason/base season. Legit pros are doing plenty of 500-600 mile weeks. 

30 hours is really only 3-4 long rides a week and some shorter/recovery rides on the other days. You should know that you're on the bike every day, and a short day is 1-2 hours for recovery after a long weekend(something like back to back 5+ hour rides). 

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6/3/2025 11:26am
lumpy790 wrote:

Years ago when I worked at 2 different hotels with a restaurant I got food poisoning after eating spaghetti and meatballs both times.

We used mud flap app for fuel only chain with that is Petro or TA.  And there not many in the country especially on back rds. So I got 60 gal at a tiny India ts in Tn. to make it to a Ta.  Ma& pa ts in the se hv catfish I love it.  I asked is that spaghetti any good ah I,ll take it.  It looked funky the meat had weird shapes , probably raccoon that he shot  in the gravel parking lot.  I ate the spaghetti late that night when I parked . It was pretty tangy I never got sick tho.  How about that flew last Feb going around. I got that during a 23 hr unld eww that was bad.  The worst ever probably 22 lbs worth I get done & there 6 cases of shampoo . I couldn’t see the front of the trailer I was soo sick I had to climb in & walk to the front to see if it was empty.  All woozy headed driving to a ts was tough .ER rooms where packed in the Midwest & ne.   . I threw in the packed cab I tried to give it away . Weeks later it’s in my van I gave some away the rest I gave to a store.  Tissue of my body hurt for days.  Up at 4am for a Indy delivery I felt puke pressure I got the door open & thought I got lucky & got all the puke outside.  I turn cab light on & see puke on my pants , no time to clean up . Construction in Indy is bad.  Warehouse isn’t even open so waiting outside. I notice the puke on my pants . I ended up checking etc then later cleaned the puke up .  Boston del I was puking white foam Soo f ing hard for almost a hr.my stomach muscles cramped tight. I apologized & said 2 1/2 weeks of just a can of tuna a day  & little Debbie brownies sorry man. Your #2 stinks soo bad from that. Is there any food in the strip malls ? After unld I walked there 23.99 + tax for a roast beef sandwich. Sandwich was raw uncooked roast beef .  I posted a pic of Zoe Soo Hot .  Remember my mom to Fri LA multi del & pu,s ?  Only parking is in Ontario & u hv to pay I parked there 1 night I got a whoppers 1 was for the rest of the week .  I remember wanting  to eat my hand on the 101 in traffic .  Then I thought about parking sideways on the 101 , so I can go to jail & eat . Haha .  Then my co won’t pay the warehouse guy for holding our freight all week.  I think it was aprox 8 pu,s everyone after pu went to his warehouse to get unlded .  I sat in his office shooting the breeze texting my work saying pay the guy so I can leave. He had a living quarters inside & a massive amount of stolen goods.  He said your free to go Anthony next time they need me I will tell them to F off. In buisness u hv bad days when they call needing me again I will take out my anger out on them.  At night  I parked in the streets with the crazy’s in there rv,s. , Compton 1 night , ts 1 night.  All pu s where in bad areas & starvation is brutal. All the alert systems our bodies hv the 2 worst is a weird pressure & heat going up your body to your head . Hate to abuse your body that bad but there is really no where to park & get food but Ontario a fj s of there is tiny & always full. Only 1 day I was in the Ontario area.  Fri rush hr I left way up north finally I got food 

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6/3/2025 11:27am
JazzyJJ wrote:
Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can...

Unless you're not paying attention to recovery, it's really hard to overtrain. I come from cycling and if you're a pro(which these guys are) you can do 30 hours weeks easily and recover well. This is assuming your sleep/nutrition etc is dialed in. 

 

CNS fatigue is a boogeyman, it's possible but not really plausible IMO 

3strokemx wrote:
I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you...

I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  
No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   
Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you start going in a hole if you don't have enough recovery, hormones get messed up, etc.  

JazzyJJ wrote:
Maybe we have different definitions, were you making a living as a cyclist? Even local P12 riders are doing 20 hour weeks, especially in the offseason/base...

Maybe we have different definitions, were you making a living as a cyclist? Even local P12 riders are doing 20 hour weeks, especially in the offseason/base season. Legit pros are doing plenty of 500-600 mile weeks. 

30 hours is really only 3-4 long rides a week and some shorter/recovery rides on the other days. You should know that you're on the bike every day, and a short day is 1-2 hours for recovery after a long weekend(something like back to back 5+ hour rides). 

I wouldn't call it a living, but I traveled extensively to race against and occasionally would beat really good people on the US domestic crit scene.  
My good friend and training partner made the jump to UCI stage racing, so I also have a broadened understanding from him. 

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6/3/2025 11:30am
3strokemx wrote:
I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you...

I'm a former pro cyclist. It's actually really easy to overtrain.  
No one is doing 30+ hour weeks regularly.   
Even with sleep and nutrition dialed you start going in a hole if you don't have enough recovery, hormones get messed up, etc.  

JazzyJJ wrote:
Maybe we have different definitions, were you making a living as a cyclist? Even local P12 riders are doing 20 hour weeks, especially in the offseason/base...

Maybe we have different definitions, were you making a living as a cyclist? Even local P12 riders are doing 20 hour weeks, especially in the offseason/base season. Legit pros are doing plenty of 500-600 mile weeks. 

30 hours is really only 3-4 long rides a week and some shorter/recovery rides on the other days. You should know that you're on the bike every day, and a short day is 1-2 hours for recovery after a long weekend(something like back to back 5+ hour rides). 

3strokemx wrote:
I wouldn't call it a living, but I traveled extensively to race against and occasionally would beat really good people on the US domestic crit scene...

I wouldn't call it a living, but I traveled extensively to race against and occasionally would beat really good people on the US domestic crit scene.  
My good friend and training partner made the jump to UCI stage racing, so I also have a broadened understanding from him. 

Sure, if you're racing 75-90 minute crits, your definition is somewhat different, and I assume that is your fancy way of saying your friend just started racing local/domestic stage races, which is great, but doesn't mean he's the gold standard. If he was racing in the P1 cat, he was doing some bigger weeks or he was getting his head kicked in. 

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6/3/2025 11:46am

The last time I had food poisoning I puked all night then then the other end started. I coulda shit through a screen door. I could eat again after about 36 hours but felt wonky for another couple days. I definitely wasn't trying to 30+2 so I can see where he wouldn't race. It really seems risky to try and race that depleted.

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