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My personal answer to that is because he has been the happiest and best version we ever had of ET. Sure He was great on red and green but when he got on the Yamaha, He became a man of the people and having fun again.
So you think 3-4 different of the best elite trainers we have in Mx (including Aldon) has the endurance part all wrong to what Deegan is doing with Swane? Sorry but that doesn't add up.
Believe is BS when it comes to our sport and endurance. You can apply Special forces mentality (always 20% more in the tank) for low intensity endurance stuff, and high intensity no brain function required stuff.
But you can't believe your way to navigating a dirtbike around a beaten up track with HR at 95%+ when you are out of fuel. That results in crashes 100% of the time.
I’m going to generalize here but I think people use genes/genetics as an excuse.
I don’t think Swany is a better trainer then the rest but his program clearly works for Haiden. But the body is capable of incredible things if the mind is willing to push it there. 100 mile endurance running races used to be crazy, now we have people doing 250.
I just think Haiden is willing and able to go to a level the rest of the field isn’t at this time. And he’s done it so much he expects to win and I think a lot of the rest of the field does too.
Completely agree. It won’t be long before his hands are covered in tattoos, buying a rolls royce, be in a public lawsuit with his agent, and saying the N word in public.
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Thank God someone said this. Deegan comes from.behind and beats the 40 best 250 riders in the world and hardly seems winded afterward. Sorry haters, he works his ass off the right way, obviously. If he beats you improve your training. If 30 + 2 tires you, which looking at the podiums it does all of them except Deegan, train harder. Which from many things your read or hear many do not. Sorry if you are a pro racer and compulsive about video games, fishing, or golfing, don't cry when you are Haiden's bitch on Saturday.
Oh definitely not. He's the class of the field by a good margin. Which I fully expected. He was last year and knew he would only get better. I also didnt see that any of his competition would make the improvements he was going to make. I thought Hymas might be a wild card. I said in another thread he wins at least 15 motos. What do you think?
This is a thread about athletics now and I agree with you😘😘😘😘
I’d say 13-15 is the floor if he stays healthy.
There can be some gifts, larger hands, etc…but someone that trains harder during the week makes it seem like race day is easy. Go back and listen to Villiopto. He talks about just this when he trained under Aldon and burnt out early.
For me I think the happy version of Tomac arrived after he finally won the SX title. Once he got that monkey off his back, he seemed to relax a bit more.
Haiden is doping. There, I said it.
Couldn't possibly be hard work, not even possible.
Yamaha controls the 450 effort under the Star tent.
Different doping protocol for MXDN in Europe as well hence his "wrist injury." Clear as day the dude will piss hole through a testing cup with what's in his veins but the boomer patriots all want to believe its just "heart"...450 class cant come soon enough to dead this hype.
wassup Mr Tony alessi , would u like to tell the world who else is currently on the juice 🤔
I believed Lance Armstrong was just physically gifted and a hard worker also
Eli out to Danger on dope, well done Vital!
He was, but had some additional help also.
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Sounds like a "moto-cliche", but Deegan seems to be willing to "do the work" at a much more intense level than his competition...at least his current 250 competitors. I'm absolutely not a fan of his schtick, but I have to give the kid credit for being at a higher level that anybody else right now. You don't necessarily get that by genetic predisposition, family support, or being on the "best" team or equipment...it flat ass comes down to wanting it the most & being willing to put out more than anybody else to get it. Shimoda, Hymas, Vialle and the rest are going to have to reach way up to even have a chance this season.
I don't think they will.
Yep, the morans came out to play and jacked this thread.
I didn’t see Eli signing with KTM for the same reason it appears Chase is leaving…. But does the Bajaj buyout solve that problem??
You sound like you need a hug.
There were pictures of him with stitches in his wrist.
only haiden and a few others would know if he’s doping. I’m sure he’s been tested and obviously passed. One thing is for sure hes in shape and knows he can beat the entire field even with a bad start.
No one has ever accused Eli of doping when his beast mode rides were in full effect 2017-2020, 2022. Some people let their emotions cloud their judgment when it comes to their favorite or least favorite rider.
Blake Bagget is another example of a guy that just kept charging at the end of motos on PC Kawi, never recall any accusations against him either.
There were acquisitions about Blake when he was having his insane late moto charges and strange thing he didn’t translate that to 450s except for try “famous father” moto in Colorado. People also raised questions about RC. Its not new to question how someone can be in such better shape than their competitors when the training programs are all out in the open
The famous father thing is quite funny looking back. I always thought it was pretty dumb but Tomac wasn’t very well liked around here after Supercross that year so a lot of people found humour in it.
Does look like he has roid gut.
Plenty of great 250 riders didnt translate to 450’s. Blake didnt get a 450 title but I’d say his career was pretty great.
I challenge all the training programs being out in the open. We don’t know the specifics of each program and they show us some stuff in vlogs but not all.
If there programs were that out in the open we’d be able to detail what they are doing every day of the week down to sets, reps, miles etc etc.
It was weird seeing Bajaj on the Motogp bikes. And so it begins.
Not this year he's not.
Tomac thread hijacked over Deegan physical conditioning. Roid strength and cardiovascular conditioning have zero correlation. There is no pill you can swallow or drug you can inject that will enable you to ride a 35 minute moto and be as strong at the 35 minute mark as you were at the 5 minute mark. Deegan's cardio is unreal! His hair isn't even drenched in sweat after the moto
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