Hampshire to 450MX

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5/22/2025 5:11am

So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith or Forkner ????

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kxking wrote:
The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine...

The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine on the 450.

5 minute heat with half the field vs a 35 minute moto with everyone... big difference

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Elite speed?I’m not pro or anti rj but saying elite speed seems like a stretch for a guy with less than 5 overalls in the 250...

Elite speed?

I’m not pro or anti rj but saying elite speed seems like a stretch for a guy with less than 5 overalls in the 250 class outdoors

dhp_mma94 wrote:
he did win a heat on a 450 at Daytona , let the wrist & his fitness improve thru out the up coming weeks , he’ll...

he did win a heat on a 450 at Daytona , let the wrist & his fitness improve thru out the up coming weeks , he’ll show u 

Herr Lich wrote:
No he won't. The guy is 65-years-old and has competed in over 2000 races on the 250. He seldom wins, but crashes all the time. He's...

No he won't. The guy is 65-years-old and has competed in over 2000 races on the 250. He seldom wins, but crashes all the time. He's not going to change on the 450. In fact it's even more likely he rides over his head and eats shit. 

😂😂 ayyy this summer we get to see whether the 450 chilled him out or he still the same ol RJ 

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kxking wrote:
The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine...

The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine on the 450.

5 minute heat with half the field vs a 35 minute moto with everyone... big difference

Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?

Half the guys on the line every week have never won a heat race and he did it on his first try, that deserves some respect.

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5/22/2025 7:12am
kxking wrote:
The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine...

The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine on the 450.

5 minute heat with half the field vs a 35 minute moto with everyone... big difference

kxking wrote:
Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?Half the guys on the line every week have never...

Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?

Half the guys on the line every week have never won a heat race and he did it on his first try, that deserves some respect.

I've won the same amount of 450 sx heats as you... seems your opinion matters as much as mine.  I totally respect it its super gnarly, I just don't see that translating to winning outdoor motos

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I don't and hope nobody else is expecting him to win moto's, at least not yet. But I do think hell do fine and even battle inside the top 10 or better, nobody can short him on his crazy effort.

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I don't and hope nobody else is expecting him to win moto's, at least not yet. But I do think hell do fine and even battle...

I don't and hope nobody else is expecting him to win moto's, at least not yet. But I do think hell do fine and even battle inside the top 10 or better, nobody can short him on his crazy effort.

It’s been said in this thread that he has elite speed. That means he is battling for wins

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5 minute heat with half the field vs a 35 minute moto with everyone... big difference

kxking wrote:
Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?Half the guys on the line every week have never...

Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?

Half the guys on the line every week have never won a heat race and he did it on his first try, that deserves some respect.

I've won the same amount of 450 sx heats as you... seems your opinion matters as much as mine.  I totally respect it its super gnarly...

I've won the same amount of 450 sx heats as you... seems your opinion matters as much as mine.  I totally respect it its super gnarly, I just don't see that translating to winning outdoor motos

Yep. Dean Wilson won a 450 heat at Daytona against Stew. How many 450 nationals did he win

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5/22/2025 7:59am

I'm thinking back half of the top 10 would be good for him . Who knows though .  I'm glad he's finally moving up . 

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5/22/2025 9:11am

RJ has spent a lot of time on the 450. He'll be fine! I'm thinking he'd better turn down his aggression level a hair though...

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5/22/2025 9:34am
kxking wrote:
Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?Half the guys on the line every week have never...

Yup you're right, and how many 5 min heat races (against half the field) have you won?

Half the guys on the line every week have never won a heat race and he did it on his first try, that deserves some respect.

This is such a stupid statement. 99.9% of us posters have the same amount of wins, 0. Doesn’t mean we can’t be a fan and bench race.  

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5/22/2025 9:41am Edited Date/Time 5/22/2025 9:44am

Quick scroll of The Vault makes it look like Hampshire was basically a 5-8 guy for most of his Motocross career, I wouldn't expect him to be any better than that on a deeper field in the 450s.

*Quick is a relative term, dude has over a decade of 250 results so it takes a little bit to scroll it all

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kxking wrote:
The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine...

The guy hole-shots and leads every lap in a heat race at Daytona (the most MX, SX track there is) I think hell do just fine on the 450.

That doesn't mean anything. The following race in Indianapolis he qualified 15th, crashed out in the second qualifying session, and pulled out of the night show.

Will RJ stop doing RJ things now that he's on a 450? He's 29 years old and has been a pro since 2014. How many guys have changed after 10+ years? 

We'll see. 

And I know Daytona and Indianapolis are different, but the point is that RJ is still RJ. 

He could go out and be competitive or go out and crash his brains out. Neither would be a surprise. 

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I’m afraid what RJ’s gonna do in 450 SMX. 3 weekends to get a 450 title… we may have yet to see the most RJ he could possibly be!

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Elite speed?I’m not pro or anti rj but saying elite speed seems like a stretch for a guy with less than 5 overalls in the 250...

Elite speed?

I’m not pro or anti rj but saying elite speed seems like a stretch for a guy with less than 5 overalls in the 250 class outdoors

dhp_mma94 wrote:
he did win a heat on a 450 at Daytona , let the wrist & his fitness improve thru out the up coming weeks , he’ll...

he did win a heat on a 450 at Daytona , let the wrist & his fitness improve thru out the up coming weeks , he’ll show u 

Am I crazy, I think he can fight for a 6-8 spot? He's not beating Hunter. I need to see JCoop. I dont think he can...

Am I crazy, I think he can fight for a 6-8 spot? He's not beating Hunter. I need to see JCoop. I dont think he can beat him either

I wouldn't be surprised if he's close to AP and Anderson in terms of speed by the end of the summer.  He's fore sure got Malcolm and Barcia covered.  I don't think being around the 8th place mark is out of the world, 6th would be a great result.

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5/22/2025 2:02pm
mb60 wrote:
So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith...

So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith or Forkner ????

Smith, followed by Anstie. 

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5/22/2025 2:04pm Edited Date/Time 5/22/2025 2:04pm

9-12 respectable but not setting the world on fire this summer 

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LungButter wrote:
Quick scroll of The Vault makes it look like Hampshire was basically a 5-8 guy for most of his Motocross career, I wouldn't expect him to...

Quick scroll of The Vault makes it look like Hampshire was basically a 5-8 guy for most of his Motocross career, I wouldn't expect him to be any better than that on a deeper field in the 450s.

*Quick is a relative term, dude has over a decade of 250 results so it takes a little bit to scroll it all

Indeed, I think you'd have to spend a few weekends scrolling to get through all of RJ's 250 results. 

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mb60 wrote:
So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith...

So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith or Forkner ????

Anstie is older at 32, but it's his 8th season in the 250 class. 

Smith is 30 and this year is his 11th season in the class. 

Forkner is 26 and this is his 10th year as a pro. 

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RJ, Anderson, Barcia, locked in a battle for 7th place, could be the most entertaining moto anyone has ever seen.. the perfect split screen filler, you...

RJ, Anderson, Barcia, locked in a battle for 7th place, could be the most entertaining moto anyone has ever seen.. the perfect split screen filler, you know there’s gonna be something replay worthy..

kawasa84 wrote:
Way too much credit, this would be accurate if you had said they're battling for 9th place, all three crash each other out, and then come...

Way too much credit, this would be accurate if you had said they're battling for 9th place, all three crash each other out, and then come back and are locked in a battle for 13th place!

That’s the replay I was talking about!

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5/23/2025 1:03pm
mb60 wrote:
So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith...

So with RJ moving up full time now. Who does get the most heat for being the oldest 250 rider left in the class. Anstie, Smith or Forkner ????

-MAVERICK- wrote:
Anstie is older at 32, but it's his 8th season in the 250 class. Smith is 30 and this year is his 11th season in the class. Forkner...

Anstie is older at 32, but it's his 8th season in the 250 class. 

Smith is 30 and this year is his 11th season in the class. 

Forkner is 26 and this is his 10th year as a pro. 

JMart is 32 as well I believe. 

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Elite speed?I’m not pro or anti rj but saying elite speed seems like a stretch for a guy with less than 5 overalls in the 250...

Elite speed?

I’m not pro or anti rj but saying elite speed seems like a stretch for a guy with less than 5 overalls in the 250 class outdoors

chasetwo79 wrote:

That's more wins than a lot of the top 10 guys had in 250 MX. so yes elite speed. 

Herr Lich wrote:

Yes, but what is his wins percentage? He was in the 250 class for over 50 years. 

That's awesome! That means there's time for me to still go Pro! WooHoo!!

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