Vialle forced to 450 for ‘26 SX

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Vialle is going to be good on 450’s. His temperment and technique will translate over very well imo. Plus the added power will give him a lot more room to work with within his calm and collected race form. I see him being a bit like a justin cooper but being able to close out wins a little better when the opportunity presents itself. Going to be fun! The 450 class is going to start getting pretty thin in a few years so itll be good getting him a couple years to get up to speed racing guys like eli and webb before the class blows wide open. 

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Emmert243 wrote:

My bad I meant Vialle lucked into his titles. Had a few beers tonight haha 

Hcallz5 wrote:

Didn't Sexton kinda luck his way into his 250 titles? Now he's fast as hell so anything can happen for Tom in 450. 

Sexton got a little gift with Forkner but had 5 wins and 8 podiums the year after that, not really the definition of lucking into a title lol.

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5/10/2025 8:12pm Edited Date/Time 5/10/2025 8:14pm
Emmert243 wrote:

My bad I meant Vialle lucked into his titles. Had a few beers tonight haha 

Hcallz5 wrote:

Didn't Sexton kinda luck his way into his 250 titles? Now he's fast as hell so anything can happen for Tom in 450. 

Yea and ppl forget but the year he won his 450sx title he wasnt 2nd in points but was 3rd in points behind both webb and tomac and in the last 3 weeks webb got injured moving him up to 2nd then tomac got injured the next week moving him to 1st then he was the last guy standing at the last race and won the title. The check still cashes tho and hes a 450sx winner for the rest of time. Ppl get injured every year and crazy things happen thats why they still have to show up and race and the last guy standing is the champion. 

As they say you make your own luck and not crashing out or getting injured is a part of why some guys win and some guys dont. Cant take anything away from anyone whos on the top step at the end of the season. 

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Mavetism wrote:
Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo...

Oh yeah, makes sense with the "only one win this year" lol. But even then, he beat Deegan more than Deegan beat Vialle last year. Imo Vialle was better last year I think, he really was off pace this season specially in the beginning ot the season. Who knows how he'll be on the 450, we'll find out.

Might be an unpopular opinion, but I think Vialle was just trying to ride within himself this year, however he had to push after he got last in the mud. These last few races he pushed and had more speed than he'd been showing, even if he did require some luck at the last race to get the title

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nobody “lucks” into a title … ever 

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Since Tom is not expected to be 2026 SX champ (?), why not go 350 first year?

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mx691 wrote:

Since Tom is not expected to be 2026 SX champ (?), why not go 350 first year?

Because he doesn't want to start in 12-14th every race. 

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Vialle is totally unprepared for 450sx. His timing is spotty and he sucks in the whoops. On a 450 that will get him hurt, fast. 

Before he came over I read:" He's gonna get hurt" "Euros can't ride SX" etc... 

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5/11/2025 2:52am Edited Date/Time 5/11/2025 3:04am
mx691 wrote:

Since Tom is not expected to be 2026 SX champ (?), why not go 350 first year?

chasetwo79 wrote:

Because he doesn't want to start in 12-14th every race. 

You know thats BS.

RV2 did holeshot the field 2 times at Budds MXoN 2007 with a 250. Cairoli nailed the starts at 2010 MXoN and won 5 world MXGP titles on the 350.

Whatever.

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Everyone saying vialle doesn't stand a chance on 450 for all these various reasons..... I feel like I've heard similar things (maybe even said them myself....) about someone else in the recent past....?

Anyway, congrats to webb on his third championship and to vialle on his second. 

sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts and both of these guys have proven it multiple times now.

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mx691 wrote:

Since Tom is not expected to be 2026 SX champ (?), why not go 350 first year?

chasetwo79 wrote:

Because he doesn't want to start in 12-14th every race. 

mx691 wrote:
You know thats BS.RV2 did holeshot the field 2 times at Budds MXoN 2007 with a 250. Cairoli nailed the starts at 2010 MXoN and won...

You know thats BS.

RV2 did holeshot the field 2 times at Budds MXoN 2007 with a 250. Cairoli nailed the starts at 2010 MXoN and won 5 world MXGP titles on the 350.

Whatever.

Here we go

5/12/2025 6:04am

Already confirmed they are running a three man team in the 450 and only running Juju on the 250. 

Who confirmed?

StilI looking for who confirmed this? I’ve seen the rumors but no confirmation.

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mx691 wrote:

Since Tom is not expected to be 2026 SX champ (?), why not go 350 first year?

You'll never see another 350 in pro SX. 

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Emmert243 wrote:

My bad I meant Vialle lucked into his titles. Had a few beers tonight haha 

Hcallz5 wrote:

Didn't Sexton kinda luck his way into his 250 titles? Now he's fast as hell so anything can happen for Tom in 450. 

The first 250 title yaa, but I don’t think he kicked into his 2nd 250 title. 

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I see vialle being musquin esq. I feel its going to take a little time for him to get into the groove on SX on the big dog. Top 10 guy but I need to see him on the pig before I pass full judgement. He reminded me of a more timid Hunter Lawrence on the 250 and he turned out to ride the 450 really really well.

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Vialle is totally unprepared for 450sx. His timing is spotty and he sucks in the whoops. On a 450 that will get him hurt, fast. 

He survived 3 years sx,why should he struggle on the 450?

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What if KTM goes under? It all seems a little iffy at the moment. I can't imagine them going away and expect someone to either buy or bail them out, but they are in a lot of debt.

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5/12/2025 7:47am
JL13 wrote:

Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.
Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.

Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just saying.

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JL13 wrote:

Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

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12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just...

12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.
Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.

Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just saying.

Tom is not better than Nichols, Noren, or Chiz? Thats a wild statement lol.....

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JL13 wrote:

Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

crusty_xx wrote:
12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just...

12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.
Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.

Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just saying.

With a healthy field to start the 26' SX season, yeah, 12-15th place guy.

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He will get eaten alive on the 450. 

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Tom lucked into the title but Seth and RJ didn’t luck into being in close points contention after Toms last place in the mud. Makes total sense…

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5/12/2025 9:18am
JL13 wrote:

Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

crusty_xx wrote:
12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just...

12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.
Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.

Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just saying.

Bow977 wrote:

Tom is not better than Nichols, Noren, or Chiz? Thats a wild statement lol.....

#Sarcasm

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5/12/2025 9:28am
JL13 wrote:

Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

crusty_xx wrote:
12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just...

12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.
Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.

Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just saying.

Bow977 wrote:

Tom is not better than Nichols, Noren, or Chiz? Thats a wild statement lol.....

that's my point

5/12/2025 9:30am
JL13 wrote:

Tom will be a 12-15th place rider next year.

crusty_xx wrote:
12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just...

12-15th on Saturday: Nichols, Noren, Chiz, Hand.
Yeah, there's no way Tom is better than those guys.

Mcelrath finished 9th in points. 2 points shy of 7th. Just saying.

JL13 wrote:

With a healthy field to start the 26' SX season, yeah, 12-15th place guy.

Yeah I guess if you talk about rounds 1-3 I could see him get 10-12th. You said "next year". 
By round 5 riders like Chiz, Harrison, ARod, Bloss were all in the top 15. You'd hope a 2 time champ is slightly better than them even in his first year.

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mx691 wrote:

Since Tom is not expected to be 2026 SX champ (?), why not go 350 first year?

Seriously wonder what a factory setup 350 vs 450 SX lap time comparison would be….especially for the horse jockey riders coming off 250”s…

5/12/2025 9:41am
aeffertz wrote:
I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only...

I think he meant to type Prado beats* Vialle and that Vialle lucked into his SX championship last year because of the soft/rutty tracks and only has one win this year. 
 

I still disagree with him, though. You don’t just luck into back-to-back championships. Vialle has 2 SX championships now, Prado has 6 SX entries. 

Vialle seems to haha

5/12/2025 9:42am

I just wish Seth won dude, Juju pulling that crap and him almost going down, I was screaming at the TV 😂

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Emmert243 wrote:
RJ will be the only 450 sx rider next year. Rumors are KTM group only running 2 brands next year so my guess is GasGas gets...

RJ will be the only 450 sx rider next year. Rumors are KTM group only running 2 brands next year so my guess is GasGas gets cut!

Or will they run KTM & GasGas in moto an make Husky the "off road" brand?

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