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Smoke ‘em if you got ‘em! Who else is excited to watch this weekend?


Robbie Wageman is back on the bike. 

https://www.nbcsports.com/motor-sports/news/robbie-wageman-returns-to-racing-16th-annual-2025-two-2-stroke-challenge-glen-helen-raceway

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I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The Walk of Fame behind the grandstands. 

Weather looks to be perfect too. low of 50 high of 70 and 3-5mph winds. 

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4/17/2025 3:15pm

I raced this a few years back a couple of times.

Really fun lining up next to 1980 AMA 500cc Champ Chuck Sun on the start line and going bar to bar down the start straight and most of the 1st lap.

And yes he beat me. :o)

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Kevin852 wrote:
I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The...

I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The Walk of Fame behind the grandstands. 

Weather looks to be perfect too. low of 50 high of 70 and 3-5mph winds. 

Good luck. Heard Profesh125 will be there on his 03 CR125.

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Kevin852 wrote:
I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The...

I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The Walk of Fame behind the grandstands. 

Weather looks to be perfect too. low of 50 high of 70 and 3-5mph winds. 

shortty761 wrote:

Good luck. Heard Profesh125 will be there on his 03 CR125.

You heard wrong - it's an '04. 👍

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4/18/2025 6:45am
Kevin852 wrote:
I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The...

I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The Walk of Fame behind the grandstands. 

Weather looks to be perfect too. low of 50 high of 70 and 3-5mph winds. 

You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south of Indy . I watched MXA vid  on the race sounds like the payout is only back to 5th now in open pro & 125 30+ now but it’s bigger for them.  They didn’t mention 125 50+ payout . 

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Kevin852 wrote:
I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The...

I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The Walk of Fame behind the grandstands. 

Weather looks to be perfect too. low of 50 high of 70 and 3-5mph winds. 

You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south...

You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south of Indy . I watched MXA vid  on the race sounds like the payout is only back to 5th now in open pro & 125 30+ now but it’s bigger for them.  They didn’t mention 125 50+ payout . 

Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track Smile  

50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I think I made 300 lat year for 5th if I remember. But this year looks like a deeper field. 

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Full gates in 50+ 125 Pro/A? Qualifiers? I would like to come out for this next year, Want to bring my 93 CR125, maybe I pick up Professional125 on the way, drop some scooby snacks on the way out🤪

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sandman768 wrote:
Full gates in 50+ 125 Pro/A? Qualifiers? I would like to come out for this next year, Want to bring my 93 CR125, maybe I pick...

Full gates in 50+ 125 Pro/A? Qualifiers? I would like to come out for this next year, Want to bring my 93 CR125, maybe I pick up Professional125 on the way, drop some scooby snacks on the way out🤪

We had 26 per the reults last year. I have seen no more than 30 i think.  

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Best of luck Kevin.

Thanks. Should be fun. I spoke with Pasha earlier and he was laughing at my usual "prep" technique. I actually started my 125 today (have not rode it in a few months) and rode it down the street. Good to go for tomorrow Smile  

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Best of luck Kevin.

Kevin852 wrote:
Thanks. Should be fun. I spoke with Pasha earlier and he was laughing at my usual "prep" technique. I actually started my 125 today (have not...

Thanks. Should be fun. I spoke with Pasha earlier and he was laughing at my usual "prep" technique. I actually started my 125 today (have not rode it in a few months) and rode it down the street. Good to go for tomorrow Smile  

I’ll be out there spectating. Have fun and good luck.  I’ll stop by if I run across you. 

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Kevin852 wrote:
I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The...

I am there racing the Pasha 50+ 125 pro class. And I will have my 2005 RM 250 for sale at the Rinaldi van on The Walk of Fame behind the grandstands. 

Weather looks to be perfect too. low of 50 high of 70 and 3-5mph winds. 

You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south...

You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south of Indy . I watched MXA vid  on the race sounds like the payout is only back to 5th now in open pro & 125 30+ now but it’s bigger for them.  They didn’t mention 125 50+ payout . 

Kevin852 wrote:
Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track :)  50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I...

Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track Smile  

50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I think I made 300 lat year for 5th if I remember. But this year looks like a deeper field. 

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.   Sucks that payout only goes back to 5th.   Oh god am I pissed another holiday & I ,m stuck with no load.  If my injections work.  in June I,m going to try to get as fast as I can .  I,ve been trying ovr the winter to change my attitude. That I hv to suffer & train & get the I,m so talented I don’t need to do anything out of my head.  But I work all the time  & burnt out from work.  A few days of ice baths etc & rest . Then start training hard so I can go sprint & not get tired.  

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Bump since we are live in 90 minutes cause two strokes deserve the glory and to be on top 

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You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south...

You,ll be living the dream your Lucky Bro.  Good Luck & rail a berm for me .  My lazy dispatcher can’t find me a load south of Indy . I watched MXA vid  on the race sounds like the payout is only back to 5th now in open pro & 125 30+ now but it’s bigger for them.  They didn’t mention 125 50+ payout . 

Kevin852 wrote:
Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track :)  50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I...

Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track Smile  

50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I think I made 300 lat year for 5th if I remember. But this year looks like a deeper field. 

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.  ...

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.   Sucks that payout only goes back to 5th.   Oh god am I pissed another holiday & I ,m stuck with no load.  If my injections work.  in June I,m going to try to get as fast as I can .  I,ve been trying ovr the winter to change my attitude. That I hv to suffer & train & get the I,m so talented I don’t need to do anything out of my head.  But I work all the time  & burnt out from work.  A few days of ice baths etc & rest . Then start training hard so I can go sprint & not get tired.  

Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger 😂

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Kevin852 wrote:
Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track :)  50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I...

Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track Smile  

50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I think I made 300 lat year for 5th if I remember. But this year looks like a deeper field. 

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.  ...

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.   Sucks that payout only goes back to 5th.   Oh god am I pissed another holiday & I ,m stuck with no load.  If my injections work.  in June I,m going to try to get as fast as I can .  I,ve been trying ovr the winter to change my attitude. That I hv to suffer & train & get the I,m so talented I don’t need to do anything out of my head.  But I work all the time  & burnt out from work.  A few days of ice baths etc & rest . Then start training hard so I can go sprint & not get tired.  

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger...

Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger 😂

Don’t feel bad the 50+ riders r a different breed.  50+ in Wi. Is much faster than 40b.   Sleep hollow,s big 2-st race pays per moto back to 7th.  A Real busy 90,s style with doubles, triples etc suits me better than GH.   And it gets slick so there’s a chance of front runners  to go down & move up.  Get some  fair races in I think that would help . With high intensity & stuff.  In June we,ll see how many r in the expert classes . I think there will be more this yr.  We hv a odd class 14 A also only like 7 tho sign up.  40A usually don’t hv that in Wi.  Stock bore I would loose it if I got pulled on the big GH up hills from a rider I had to work to pass earlier. It should be 125cc only race. A stroker crank would help but big money there. I got to sit till Monday every holiday I get screwed .  

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The 125 motos were interesting but the open pro was kind of boring, not many battles.

Bummer for Derek Drake, he was heading towards a dominant 1-1 but a mechanical got him at the end of the 2nd moto so he DNF’ed. He was well above the field! He gapped everyone after one lap.

The podium is Dante Oliviera, Dare Demartile and Carson Brown

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romain524 wrote:
The 125 motos were interesting but the open pro was kind of boring, not many battles.Bummer for Derek Drake, he was heading towards a dominant 1-1...

The 125 motos were interesting but the open pro was kind of boring, not many battles.

Bummer for Derek Drake, he was heading towards a dominant 1-1 but a mechanical got him at the end of the 2nd moto so he DNF’ed. He was well above the field! He gapped everyone after one lap.

The podium is Dante Oliviera, Dare Demartile and Carson Brown

Man Derek drake looked so good in the corners the first moto 

Nice to see a couple off road riders on the podium 

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Good day today. Good racing! BUT,  I couldn’t help but think what bufoons are at the table preventing an AMA national at this facility. Not taking sides but what an open palette for a race course. Today’s track was cool and it was for a sub culture event.  Get your heads out of your asses and get the AMA national done!

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I did not ride too well. Too much time off the bike this last 12 months. Went 10-10 for 9th o/a. I was running 6th for. few laps in the second moto but just off. And then bad arm pump the last few laps dug my grave haha. But track was brutal and in great shape.  

Drake was killing it. Bummer for him to be done in by a mechanical.  Josh Moisman and B Ray had a good battle on 125's that second moto. 

Good day for sure, if I rode less than optimal. But any day I am driving my own van home and the end of it is a pretty good day riding, results be damned. 

 

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Kevin852 wrote:
Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track :)  50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I...

Thanks. Helps that I live 35 min from the track Smile  

50+ pays top 5. I think it is like 1500, 1000, 750, 500, 300.  I think I made 300 lat year for 5th if I remember. But this year looks like a deeper field. 

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.  ...

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.   Sucks that payout only goes back to 5th.   Oh god am I pissed another holiday & I ,m stuck with no load.  If my injections work.  in June I,m going to try to get as fast as I can .  I,ve been trying ovr the winter to change my attitude. That I hv to suffer & train & get the I,m so talented I don’t need to do anything out of my head.  But I work all the time  & burnt out from work.  A few days of ice baths etc & rest . Then start training hard so I can go sprint & not get tired.  

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger...

Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger 😂

Thanks Matty. My joke is I am real fast if no one fast shows up HAHAHA. 

But serious, the Dubach/Nicol/Emig guys are a whole different level than me. Those guys were moving!!!

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You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.  ...

You got 5th last yr you must haul ass, Good job.  I would be eating a few bags of spinach now for those long motos.   Sucks that payout only goes back to 5th.   Oh god am I pissed another holiday & I ,m stuck with no load.  If my injections work.  in June I,m going to try to get as fast as I can .  I,ve been trying ovr the winter to change my attitude. That I hv to suffer & train & get the I,m so talented I don’t need to do anything out of my head.  But I work all the time  & burnt out from work.  A few days of ice baths etc & rest . Then start training hard so I can go sprint & not get tired.  

mattyhamz2 wrote:
Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger...

Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger 😂

Don’t feel bad the 50+ riders r a different breed.  50+ in Wi. Is much faster than 40b.   Sleep hollow,s big 2-st race pays per...

Don’t feel bad the 50+ riders r a different breed.  50+ in Wi. Is much faster than 40b.   Sleep hollow,s big 2-st race pays per moto back to 7th.  A Real busy 90,s style with doubles, triples etc suits me better than GH.   And it gets slick so there’s a chance of front runners  to go down & move up.  Get some  fair races in I think that would help . With high intensity & stuff.  In June we,ll see how many r in the expert classes . I think there will be more this yr.  We hv a odd class 14 A also only like 7 tho sign up.  40A usually don’t hv that in Wi.  Stock bore I would loose it if I got pulled on the big GH up hills from a rider I had to work to pass earlier. It should be 125cc only race. A stroker crank would help but big money there. I got to sit till Monday every holiday I get screwed .  

Come on, besides Aztalan there are like 5 guys running 50+. 

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mattyhamz2 wrote:
Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger...

Kevin does haul ass. I couldn’t stay with him more than maybe 1 or 2 turns and I’m around 20ish years(give or take a few) younger 😂

Don’t feel bad the 50+ riders r a different breed.  50+ in Wi. Is much faster than 40b.   Sleep hollow,s big 2-st race pays per...

Don’t feel bad the 50+ riders r a different breed.  50+ in Wi. Is much faster than 40b.   Sleep hollow,s big 2-st race pays per moto back to 7th.  A Real busy 90,s style with doubles, triples etc suits me better than GH.   And it gets slick so there’s a chance of front runners  to go down & move up.  Get some  fair races in I think that would help . With high intensity & stuff.  In June we,ll see how many r in the expert classes . I think there will be more this yr.  We hv a odd class 14 A also only like 7 tho sign up.  40A usually don’t hv that in Wi.  Stock bore I would loose it if I got pulled on the big GH up hills from a rider I had to work to pass earlier. It should be 125cc only race. A stroker crank would help but big money there. I got to sit till Monday every holiday I get screwed .  

yak651 wrote:

Come on, besides Aztalan there are like 5 guys running 50+. 

Pro stop pretending. You’re like a peewee kid.  Faster off the track, than on. 

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Just looked at results…+50 Pro had good turnout…looking down the all class results….why so many dnf”s? Track conditions? 

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What’s the payout in open pro and 125 pro?

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Kevin852 wrote:
I did not ride too well. Too much time off the bike this last 12 months. Went 10-10 for 9th o/a. I was running 6th for...

I did not ride too well. Too much time off the bike this last 12 months. Went 10-10 for 9th o/a. I was running 6th for. few laps in the second moto but just off. And then bad arm pump the last few laps dug my grave haha. But track was brutal and in great shape.  

Drake was killing it. Bummer for him to be done in by a mechanical.  Josh Moisman and B Ray had a good battle on 125's that second moto. 

Good day for sure, if I rode less than optimal. But any day I am driving my own van home and the end of it is a pretty good day riding, results be damned. 

 

Top 10 is good ride, what bike you racing? Mod engine? Should have been draining tanks on that 125 leading up to this race 👍

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