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It did even feel like a race. more like a redneck mudpit. the commentary was as bad as the camera work
What happened to the scoring, in particular the timing? I spend a good amount of time looking at the scoreboard, watching the gaps shrink/grow. Without that info, it’s impossible to know what’s happening on the track when the bikes and riders are impossible to tell apart.
Diffy is a turd on a stick and bad for the sport.
It was pathetic. I can understand having a hard time telling who riders are when they are covered in mud. But not even trying to follow the race after the leader crossed the finish line is inexcusable. There is obviously still racing going on but no, we’ve got to be fixated on Plessinger (nothing against AP). At least split screen it.
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Yes weather had to have a major impact on everything. When RJ was picking his bike up you couldn't tell it was him! Had to be near impossible to tell who was lapped etc . Imagine running a camera in those conditions would be no easy task. Very different environment than sitting on your couch watching it on TV.
The camera operators were not the problem. The guy deciding what to show when was (is) the problem. As someone pointed out, maybe they just didn’t pay for enough experienced spotters to help track the progress of the leaders? Either way, the production suffered due to decisions made by the production team. The track crew was prepared for the shitty conditions, but the folks in the tv control room apparently were not.
Does not change the production. Hard to spot riders is one thing, week after week we have inexcusable idiotic mistakes. The production is stale and boring, the stories they try to paint are stupid, get into the grit and detail that our sport offers. Not the traditional, roll off/tear off debate for the last 25 years. Get rid of the awful music they try and use as background noise, and use the environment and allow a little quiet to build up. So many things need changed and it starts with BONDO. No more excuses, it is time for change that makes our sport look good. The production looks childish and simply poor quality. They don't even follow the actual race going on. Why anyone is ok with this as a representation of our sport is beyond me. It is awful
That was the suckiest suck fest of a broadcast ever in SX!
I'm not one to complain about the broadcast.. but that was terrible. Think we put last night more on the producers. But then again Ricky and Diffy should have seen what was going on
Until your a mechanic or a rider that has been there and know what it is really like then you are doing the same thing. Arm chair quaterbacking. The production sucks, if you think it is ok then cool. But when you see the stupidity behind it all and actually understand the sport and have been around, you do not accept this piece of garbage they package. The production is and always will be at fault. James and Weege can only polish a turd so much, and when they are not announcing and you have an evening of mud racing like last night? Well your answer is staring you in the face. Diffy and Ricky do not deserve the booth, and Bondo had all the time in the world to paint his stupid storyline pictures and still couldn't even follow the championship battle as we close in on final rounds. So many examples showing sub par performance from that group week after week and it is accepted because of our sports size and the bro sho. Again, why anybody accepts this as ok, when we could make changes that represent our sport positively and actually show it in a light that is interesting that shows the difficulty. The camera angles suck, the sound sucks, the production sucks, the story telling sucks, the timing of replays suck. It is all simply not good enough.
Simple changes that can be made
-Graphics designer, for pete sakes this is not difficult, they could find someone on Vital who is a graphic designer who can do something better than the shit boxes we get.
-Sound, listen to the race and the bikes more. Mics need to be moved to hear the action better
-Cameras, they have them in the opposite direction showing them coming to you instead of away from you mostly, so you hardly see the difficulty of the track as well as either too focused in, or way too far away, there is a happy medium
-Replays nobody gives a fuck about the holeshot replay, if you have to show it due to sponsorship obligations show it after the race. The beginning is when the most movement is happening and we always miss it because of you guessed it. Poor timing and LONG replays
-Announcing, do we really need to say it? Stick with Weege, Stew and JT. No more WIll, RC, and Diffy.. They offer zero other than taking up pay that can go elsewhere and have a designated PIT reported who understands WTH is going on with the bikes and technical terms. Not a random reporter guessing wtf is going on
Watch any other motorsport and it is obvious how our production team dumbs down our sport and makes it look childish instead of professional. Then, others wonder why it doesn't grow. Right here is your reason, MXGP runs circles around our TV crew with 1 announcer. This is the largest pile of poo packaged to us and y'all gobble it up with open mouths.
Meaningful well though through changes need to be made
Anyone catch Diffy say Plessinger had never been on the podium as the are showing graphic is the background saying he has placed 3rd before? JT came in a little after and corrected him and the screen.
Time stamp 2hour 24min mark .
What the Fylin’ F…?
All this time Rickyisms has really been Aaron Plessinger?!🤪
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Yeah, It's pretty bad when you can't depend on scoring / timing being right...seems that would have to be transponder related?
As far as figuring out which rider is which, it's rough when everyone is wearing mocha brown. For example, I have to admit I did a pizz poor job of that while at the 2005 A1 mudder as I was absolutely shocked that it was Kdub that won it.
So bad.... Show the race not the redneck puddle jumping....
The complete lack of mechanical knowledge by RC is crazy too. He kept saying the bikes were 'smoking' when it was obvious it was just steam on a hot pipe and motor. At least he said they need to stay off the clutch to keep the heat down but I have $100 that he has no clue WHY that would get the motor hot 😆
The timing and scoring stuff I give a pass as it was a total shit show but agree that cutting away once the winner came across the line was BS in several races.
Was happy when Ricky retired... thought 'good, sport can be rid of him... '
nope... he's still making the sport more boring....
and as a champion, saying he "hated racing"... whatta tool to say that.....
He 'hated every minute of it' .. now he's paid to call the races ... brilliant NBC...
I’m betting that there was a failure in the timing system. I don’t remember seeing any lap times, gaps or times behind leader at all. If the system is hardwired, it must not have been waterproofed, if its wireless, same. That would explain all (well, most..) of the problems/confusion in the broadcast. If the system didn’t fail, it falls back to regular incompetence..
He must have been so relieved when AC retired.
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As a webb fan that sucked, apparently he started jumping all the jumps but I guess I'll never get to see it unless I can find some iphone bootleg video somewhere. Got to see someone jump in a puddle though "Hell yeah". I usually don't complain about the broadcast or commentating, but to miss a huge chunk of actual racing with the cameras is a pretty shitty miss.
RC is a champion and knew how to ride a dirt bike damn well. But he’s one of the old pros that needs to disappear and go away. He sucked the joy out of the sport with how he approached it, introduced PEDs, and set the precedent of hate life and retire at 27. The sport is just now recovering but we’re still dealing with him in the booth.
In those conditions, there is no race to follow, all the guys look the same, everyone is relying on the timing to give them a clue, and that was shonky all night,
Once they get into lappers, its game over as far as having a clue who is leading goes, especially when they fall off while you are looking at something else.
That said, not following the guys over the line is a pet hate of mine, but all the stuff they do is layed out in a script that have to follow, you cant just freestyle it.
They showed AP while they were trying to peice together what happened and find the footage. Diffey tried to contradict RC a few times, and RC shot him down .
The thing is that they DO have it on video, I've seen it. The issue is that Bondo is telling them to keep the camera on Plessinger playing in the mud while there is still a race going on.
WTF?
Lol, I was there with friends and we, too, were absolutely shocked when it turned out Windham had won! I think most of the crowd in attendance were surprised! That was a crazy race!
Xactly!!! You crystalized my thoughts.... He took what Rick Johnson, Hannah, Glover, Magoo, Bailey, McGrath built and won to probably just SPITE the great guys foremetioned.... & now present time, the ginger is still taking up sacred space ..
Baloney. We are in the home stretch with two guys in a title fight and crazy shit goes down in the last few laps and you are telling me we can't keep an eye on that and maybe cut to it? Baloney.
Shit bag commentary. Wtf? How does this happen? If you suck at your job in my line of work, you get replaced.
Thats cause feld is "growing" the circus, not the sport. Fans dig the stupid stuff as entertainment, the actual racing who cares?
As posters we have very little juice, now if "journalist" or those with a platform (Vital, Racer X, Matthes, Ping etc...)start writing articles and asking questions...such as, Ricky, during the race can you expalin why you weren't covering the rac? Dont expect an answer but need publicity for the decsions makers to take notice.
I stopped watching last night during the main, for me, my time is more valueable then watching a crappy product.
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Not one mention of the ride Gage Linville put in the broadcast with his ride in the main from being down in the first corner, to getting 3rd on the podium.
It blows me away how Will got this far because her voice is nails on a chalk board.
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