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They are the highest finishing mfg for the round 1 also! Next closest was Honda!
Desmo will be interesting in the 250
Guadanini was impressive too. A year (mostly) out developing the bike then back with those results bodes well for the year.
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$11200 Pounds i read for the UK.
Pricey
KTM better watch out. This is going to be the new rich +40 C rider must-have status symbol.
Cheaper than a ktm at retail there. I think with what people thought they were going to cost, this is cheap. I’d imagine they will sell well, it is a very nice looking bike.
Hey, leave us alone. 😂
To have the parts it comes with, no it's not
Consider it a step forward, something we haven't seen in a while.
Back in the 60s, their 250 single Desmo was the fastest 250 around. It won a lot races in road racing. I'm sure their 250 will put out some power.
They had a scrambler also but it didn't handle very good. Motor was great though.
That doesn’t mean anything.
Mike Alessi consistently holeshot on a Suzuki Honda and KTM and rarely won the race.
$14,400 USD. It’s pricey
You guys didn’t think that Ducati was going target the entry level market … did you? To be honest I was expecting 16-18000 as a MSRP as it is the premium brand of motorcycles or boutique maybe is a better word… don’t think they would have a problem selling them at that price either.
I'm that deep into building a 250 and that's just in parts. It's really not that bad lol there will be a market for people buying a sub 15k race ready bike
Yeah, there’s wealthy people out there that will buy it. But that’s like saying a $100K race car really isn’t that pricey compared to a lot of others.
It’s a cool bike. A Ferrari is a cool car.
The difference is people aren't buying Miatas and trying to turn them into a Ferrari. I don't see how this concept is so complicated. The bike comes with parts that 75% of people are going to buy for their new bike anyways, putting them just as much into any bike as the Ducati will be. I seriously expected the bike to closer to 17-18k.
At 14k, i doubt the production bike will mimic what you see right now. Especially with billet cases as is shown.
Pit Row
I was dreaming that their production bikes would be so close to their race bikes and their contingency would be killer so that they would corner the privateer professional market.
Seeweer is notoriously good starter. Sets his bike up for starts specifically. So no surprise.
Guadagnini also pretty good starter.
But if this keeps going for sure bike has a part in it since there is many good starters in MXGP.
Every 250 out there is race ready. It's what is between the ears, not the legs.
That being said, people are dumb and this will make every other manufacturer's price go up.
Shoot, HD just dropped a $110,000 bagger yesterday. $14k is a drop in the bucket! 😂
What are we seeing about this bike that makes it anymore ready to race or premium over any other bike? Because it has a pipe on it?
Its not going to have billet cases, it has billet triple clamps which is not a big deal KTMs also have this, titanium tank which Hondas also have. Its nice but its not like its above and beyond anything available.
I think if it costs much more than a KTM factory edition they will have a hard time selling a bunch.
What parts is it coming with? No ones even seen a production model yet
Hmmmm…a guess…
$13,999 US….?
If it’s anything like the display bike like what they’ve been showing at the TLD intros…
Billet cases.
Billet Hubs…real…billet…with Dirt Star rims…
Full Ti exhaust system
Kashima Showas in billet triples
Ti bolts…?
I'd have to agree. It really comes down to the cost to manufacture each individual part. I guess we'll see when the time comes. I know a ton of people here hate Stark, but they really figured it out when it comes to individual part manufacturing and starting to 3d print their Ti parts. Billet triples and risers are on thing, but the time to machine an engine case would be wayyyy more costly and is why no production bike has it.
Ducati is also use to 10+ year engine life cycles from the street bike industry, motocross people expect all new engines every 5 years it seems like.
That really shortens the time to recoup costs in stuff like that when its over a shorter amount of time.
when it comes to CNC machining, other than the time used in CAD, there is no recouping costs. Machine time is a cost that is constant.
Cast parts recoup costs over time as the dies used for manufacturing are the main investment.
The problem with Desmo is the upkeep and cost of repairs cool motor setup and it will prove itself but to the average consumer it will be a lot steeper than maintaining a traditional bikes engine.
Yeah I wasn't referring to the billet stuff specifically just that Ducati will want to recoup engine cost ASAP and certainly not possible with billet cases.
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