Sexton?

2/9/2025 6:22am

Chase was on rails to start the main. Is there any post race interviews where he addressed if there were bike problems pre crash? 

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2/9/2025 6:26am

Chase was on rails to start the main. Is there any post race interviews where he addressed if there were bike problems pre crash? 

I know we are all speculating, but I would love to see his lap times from the start, to the end of the race.  I know the track was breaking down hard, but Sexton does not fade to fitness or anything else, if his lap times were progressively getting worse after the halfway point of that race compared to say Mookie or Webb, I think there may be something more to it than a simple mistake.

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2/9/2025 6:41am

The press release clears it up…. The crash is on Chase, the drop from P2 to P5 after was a damaged front brake and throttle housing.

BobPA nailed it.  

Nobody was holding Mookie off last night.  But Chase still extended his points lead on a tough night.

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2/9/2025 6:46am

I like Sexton’s attitude and not take it too badly. Yeah, he fell over while leading, but he has to keep looking forward and move on. 

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2/9/2025 7:59am

That’s crazy that sexton folded like that for Mookie.  Like who would of guessed that.  I still think something had to be wrong 

matze wrote:
Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see...

Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see that, it feels like a 10 year old writing words exactly as he hears them lol

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Love showing this a couple times a year.

Love showing this a couple times a year.


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Lol 😎

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2/9/2025 11:00am Edited Date/Time 2/9/2025 11:01am

People using the word “choke” when one of the fastest riders in the world racing some of the toughest tracks with brutal whoops goes down are….how should I say it…..fucking idiots.  Every rider goes down some pushing the limits in one of the toughest sports in the world…yes…sometimes getting pressure from behind.  Not choking..getting bit riding the very edge.  Just riding the edge while doing something extreeeemmmly difficult, and dangerous, that you can only dream about.  Go back to eating your 10 gallon tub of cheese puffs from Costco……on the couch.  Maybe later you can touch yourself some more.

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Shred wrote:
People using the word “choke” when one of the fastest riders in the world racing some of the toughest tracks with brutal whoops goes down are….how...

People using the word “choke” when one of the fastest riders in the world racing some of the toughest tracks with brutal whoops goes down are….how should I say it…..fucking idiots.  Every rider goes down some pushing the limits in one of the toughest sports in the world…yes…sometimes getting pressure from behind.  Not choking..getting bit riding the very edge.  Just riding the edge while doing something extreeeemmmly difficult, and dangerous, that you can only dream about.  Go back to eating your 10 gallon tub of cheese puffs from Costco……on the couch.  Maybe later you can touch yourself some more.

I agree.  People who write these sort of digs about riders have some sort of metal disorder that they will carry the rest of their lives.  
Sometimes its embarrassing to be of the human race.  

Imagine being married to a someone with that disorder.  

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2/9/2025 11:33am

That’s crazy that sexton folded like that for Mookie.  Like who would of guessed that.  I still think something had to be wrong 

matze wrote:
Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see...

Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see that, it feels like a 10 year old writing words exactly as he hears them lol

I think many people genuinely don't realize that "should have/would have" is the correct phrase, and that "should of/would of" is wrong.

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Sexton will more than likely retire as an all-time great of the sport, with a career similar in accomplishments to someone like Chad Reed (although I believe he'll win more than 1 more 450 title, SX or MX, in his career), and 90% of discussions surrounding him have been about choking, tucking the front, being overrated, and being a headcase. He has his faults, but he's so damn good and hardly gets any legitimate credit from the media and fans without adding in asterisks.

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2/9/2025 11:42am
davistld01 wrote:

Sexton won’t ride orange in ‘26. Stamp it.

Rumor has it Suzuki is slated to buy out KTM. KTM ‘s terrible financial decisions have played right into Suzukis hands. Dumping $100 a year into...

Rumor has it Suzuki is slated to buy out KTM. KTM ‘s terrible financial decisions have played right into Suzukis hands. Dumping $100 a year into a new bike with a 2-3k profit per machine has worked out. 

Literally the dumbest thing posted on the internet today. 

You're not familiar with ButtereyWaffles are you?

 

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2/9/2025 11:45am

Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just wants to blame the whoops, which is crazy to me. Whoops, big, small, cupped out, rutted, slick, etc... They are not new.

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just...

Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just wants to blame the whoops, which is crazy to me. Whoops, big, small, cupped out, rutted, slick, etc... They are not new.

And yet EVERY rider goes down in them at times.  Hmmmm…they are not new…hmmmm…...maaayyyybbbeeee they are very difficult…especially when cupped and slick…with ruts…at very high speeds…hm.  They do this very difficult thing as fast as they can without crashing…and sometimes tip off that edge.    No…definitely that specific rider’s fault.  He should probably be banned or something.

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2/9/2025 11:55am

That’s crazy that sexton folded like that for Mookie.  Like who would of guessed that.  I still think something had to be wrong 

matze wrote:
Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see...

Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see that, it feels like a 10 year old writing words exactly as he hears them lol

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Love showing this a couple times a year.

Love showing this a couple times a year.


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2/9/2025 11:57am
SoCalMX70 wrote:
Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just...

Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just wants to blame the whoops, which is crazy to me. Whoops, big, small, cupped out, rutted, slick, etc... They are not new.

How do riders crash in a corner? They've been around sense man set foot on this earth, how is it possible to crash in a corner.

 

See how stupid you sound?

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just...

Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just wants to blame the whoops, which is crazy to me. Whoops, big, small, cupped out, rutted, slick, etc... They are not new.

Shred wrote:
And yet EVERY rider goes down in them at times.  Hmmmm…they are not new…hmmmm…...maaayyyybbbeeee they are very difficult…especially when cupped and slick…with ruts…at very high speeds…hm...

And yet EVERY rider goes down in them at times.  Hmmmm…they are not new…hmmmm…...maaayyyybbbeeee they are very difficult…especially when cupped and slick…with ruts…at very high speeds…hm.  They do this very difficult thing as fast as they can without crashing…and sometimes tip off that edge.    No…definitely that specific rider’s fault.  He should probably be banned or something.

I don't know what you're going on about. I am just surprised that Sexton went down the way he did, that is all. Watching from different angles, it just looked odd. Usually its fairly easy to pick out what happened.

Other than that, I think its lame when people try to say the whoops need to be tamed down. They were fine.

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tomlopez wrote:
Sexton will more than likely retire as an all-time great of the sport, with a career similar in accomplishments to someone like Chad Reed (although I...

Sexton will more than likely retire as an all-time great of the sport, with a career similar in accomplishments to someone like Chad Reed (although I believe he'll win more than 1 more 450 title, SX or MX, in his career), and 90% of discussions surrounding him have been about choking, tucking the front, being overrated, and being a headcase. He has his faults, but he's so damn good and hardly gets any legitimate credit from the media and fans without adding in asterisks.

The CR comparison is interesting to look at. Relative to the competition you could argue that Chase is faster than Chad was. When Chad would lose, indoors or outdoors to James and Ricky he'd often be gapped heavily. Whereas Chase has been right on Tomac and Jetts tail so many times. Then you look at the nature of their titles and it's similar - ricky out for 04 sx, james for 08, rv, james alessi all out in 09 mx. People do bring this up but it seems much more harsh with Chase and his titles. Chase has just lost a lot of races so dramatically from the front so many times so that it stays in the mind. Chad would often be flawless in capitalising from faster guys mistakes, whereas Chase is often the fastest guy making the error. Interesting though the choice of language when talking about certain riders mistakes - with stew it was because he was just so good and sending it so hard, but chase is a mental midget apparently. When all is said and done he'll be one of the all timers

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just...

Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just wants to blame the whoops, which is crazy to me. Whoops, big, small, cupped out, rutted, slick, etc... They are not new.

JazzyJJ wrote:
How do riders crash in a corner? They've been around sense man set foot on this earth, how is it possible to crash in a corner. See...

How do riders crash in a corner? They've been around sense man set foot on this earth, how is it possible to crash in a corner.

 

See how stupid you sound?

I don't blame the corner... Figure it out yet?

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tomlopez wrote:
Sexton will more than likely retire as an all-time great of the sport, with a career similar in accomplishments to someone like Chad Reed (although I...

Sexton will more than likely retire as an all-time great of the sport, with a career similar in accomplishments to someone like Chad Reed (although I believe he'll win more than 1 more 450 title, SX or MX, in his career), and 90% of discussions surrounding him have been about choking, tucking the front, being overrated, and being a headcase. He has his faults, but he's so damn good and hardly gets any legitimate credit from the media and fans without adding in asterisks.

Echo wrote:
The CR comparison is interesting to look at. Relative to the competition you could argue that Chase is faster than Chad was. When Chad would lose...

The CR comparison is interesting to look at. Relative to the competition you could argue that Chase is faster than Chad was. When Chad would lose, indoors or outdoors to James and Ricky he'd often be gapped heavily. Whereas Chase has been right on Tomac and Jetts tail so many times. Then you look at the nature of their titles and it's similar - ricky out for 04 sx, james for 08, rv, james alessi all out in 09 mx. People do bring this up but it seems much more harsh with Chase and his titles. Chase has just lost a lot of races so dramatically from the front so many times so that it stays in the mind. Chad would often be flawless in capitalising from faster guys mistakes, whereas Chase is often the fastest guy making the error. Interesting though the choice of language when talking about certain riders mistakes - with stew it was because he was just so good and sending it so hard, but chase is a mental midget apparently. When all is said and done he'll be one of the all timers

You are absolutely right. I guess the comparison to Reed was based more on accolades rather than performance on the track, but it is an interesting discussion. Sexton is more similar to Stewart - wicked fast and talented, but mistakes/bad starts have hampered his potential. To add to that parallel, Stewart ended his career with very similar accomplishments to Reed - they both had 2 SX titles and 1 MX title. Of course, Stewart had more wins, but at the end of the day, the statistics are pretty comparable.

You bring up a great point regarding the language surrounding these riders. Stewart’s mistakes are almost “excused” because he was “pushing the limits of a dirt bike”, whereas Sexton’s are because of mental weakness. Perhaps Sexton is simply pushing the limits of a dirt bike in the same way that Stewart used to?

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2/9/2025 12:09pm

That’s crazy that sexton folded like that for Mookie.  Like who would of guessed that.  I still think something had to be wrong 

matze wrote:
Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see...

Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see that, it feels like a 10 year old writing words exactly as he hears them lol

tomlopez wrote:

I think many people genuinely don't realize that "should have/would have" is the correct phrase, and that "should of/would of" is wrong.

Similarly, commonly we see on this board “could care less” this is wrong. 

It’s couldn’t Care less. 

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SoCalMX70 wrote:
Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just...

Good to see it was just a bike issue after the crash. I still think its weird how he went down in the whoops. Everyone just wants to blame the whoops, which is crazy to me. Whoops, big, small, cupped out, rutted, slick, etc... They are not new.

JazzyJJ wrote:
How do riders crash in a corner? They've been around sense man set foot on this earth, how is it possible to crash in a corner. See...

How do riders crash in a corner? They've been around sense man set foot on this earth, how is it possible to crash in a corner.

 

See how stupid you sound?

SoCalMX70 wrote:

I don't blame the corner... Figure it out yet?

Did Sexton blame the whoops for his crash?

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Nobody ever has ever been caught from behind and thrown out the anchor? I know I have😂the crash in the whoops was just a result of getting gobbled up by Mookie…I am a Sexton fan but Mookie was coming like a freight train …its mental, nobody gets arm pump when they pulling away…

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Love showing this a couple times a year.

Love showing this a couple times a year.


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That's hilarious.

...yet on the flip side, we had a thread a couple weeks back where everyone was purposefully mauling the spelling and grammar in their responses.

You can't win on VitalMX. 😂

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matze wrote:
Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see...

Off topic, but why do so many people write "should of", "would of"..? It's not slang, it's not shorter, it sounds dumb... Every time I see that, it feels like a 10 year old writing words exactly as he hears them lol

tomlopez wrote:

I think many people genuinely don't realize that "should have/would have" is the correct phrase, and that "should of/would of" is wrong.

Similarly, commonly we see on this board “could care less” this is wrong. 

It’s couldn’t Care less. 

You should of considered it a blessing in the sky that we could care less.

Literally.

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Shred wrote:
People using the word “choke” when one of the fastest riders in the world racing some of the toughest tracks with brutal whoops goes down are….how...

People using the word “choke” when one of the fastest riders in the world racing some of the toughest tracks with brutal whoops goes down are….how should I say it…..fucking idiots.  Every rider goes down some pushing the limits in one of the toughest sports in the world…yes…sometimes getting pressure from behind.  Not choking..getting bit riding the very edge.  Just riding the edge while doing something extreeeemmmly difficult, and dangerous, that you can only dream about.  Go back to eating your 10 gallon tub of cheese puffs from Costco……on the couch.  Maybe later you can touch yourself some more.

I was thinking something similar about a fuel injected PC Kawasaki race bike having a "choke".

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KTM being broke cant be helping the situation. Not to mention Sexton is a diva fo sho. 

Please explain why you think Sexton is a Diva. I watch all the moto media I can, and I cannot figure out why anyone would say this.

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The press release clears it up…. The crash is on Chase, the drop from P2 to P5 after was a damaged front brake and throttle housing.BobPA...

The press release clears it up…. The crash is on Chase, the drop from P2 to P5 after was a damaged front brake and throttle housing.

BobPA nailed it.  

Nobody was holding Mookie off last night.  But Chase still extended his points lead on a tough night.

Still extended his points lead?  He lost points to the one guy we can count on to be there every weekend

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2/9/2025 2:34pm
agn5008 wrote:

I don’t know. Why did they need to run KYB components in sextons forks? 

I think because Chase likes that feel better. Why was half the Honda team on KYB and the other half on Showa a few years ago?

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Because KYB and Showa make forks that are good. Those riders chose what they liked best. WP has to use KYB’s components and still cover the...

Because KYB and Showa make forks that are good. Those riders chose what they liked best. WP has to use KYB’s components and still cover the forks with WP stickers and act like it’s their own. I don’t see anyone on Yamahas trying to replicate the WP fork. And for good reason. 

Wasn’t everyone saying the 52mm cone valves were the best thing ever just a few years ago?

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