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TbonesPop wrote:

With Jett going down this year, that's one less key competitor for Eli to have to beat.  Would anyone be shocked to see Eli win another...

With Jett going down this year, that's one less key competitor for Eli to have to beat.  Would anyone be shocked to see Eli win another 7-8 wins this year given his current speed?  That would put him damn near 60 SX wins.  I know he says he is retiring, but if he goes on a win streak and gets up to 60 wins, does he come back part time for SX only and try to break the record?  Jett really shouldn't be discussing it right now, he's no where near close to be in the discussion.  Eli is the only one who has earned being in the discussion - and even that is barely earned.

TbonesPop wrote:

With Jett going down this year, that's one less key competitor for Eli to have to beat.  Would anyone be shocked to see Eli win another...

With Jett going down this year, that's one less key competitor for Eli to have to beat.  Would anyone be shocked to see Eli win another 7-8 wins this year given his current speed?  That would put him damn near 60 SX wins.  I know he says he is retiring, but if he goes on a win streak and gets up to 60 wins, does he come back part time for SX only and try to break the record?  Jett really shouldn't be discussing it right now, he's no where near close to be in the discussion.  Eli is the only one who has earned being in the discussion - and even that is barely earned.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

I mean, is Jett discussing it right now? He said it was his goal to beat the record and now a year later fans can't let...

I mean, is Jett discussing it right now? He said it was his goal to beat the record and now a year later fans can't let it go

TbonesPop wrote:

With Jett going down this year, that's one less key competitor for Eli to have to beat.  Would anyone be shocked to see Eli win another...

With Jett going down this year, that's one less key competitor for Eli to have to beat.  Would anyone be shocked to see Eli win another 7-8 wins this year given his current speed?  That would put him damn near 60 SX wins.  I know he says he is retiring, but if he goes on a win streak and gets up to 60 wins, does he come back part time for SX only and try to break the record?  Jett really shouldn't be discussing it right now, he's no where near close to be in the discussion.  Eli is the only one who has earned being in the discussion - and even that is barely earned.

Chris_Buehler wrote:

I mean, is Jett discussing it right now? He said it was his goal to beat the record and now a year later fans can't let...

I mean, is Jett discussing it right now? He said it was his goal to beat the record and now a year later fans can't let it go

Johnny Ringo wrote:

There are still people that dislike RC because he wore a crown 23 years ago

Tate517 wrote:

Uhh. so if RJ Hampshire races the full premier class SX season next year.. it wont be his rookie season? According to you he will not...

Uhh. so if RJ Hampshire races the full premier class SX season next year.. it wont be his rookie season? According to you he will not be since hes raced a handful of premier class SX races so far in his career. What about Christian Craig? Was 2023 not his rookie season in the premier class since he had already raced some premier class SX races before?

What school did some of you vitards go to? Let me guess.. homeschool. 

 

Team403 wrote:

The top guys make too much money to go that long.. doesn’t make any sense to risk your body when you’re set…

Tate517 wrote:

Uhh. so if RJ Hampshire races the full premier class SX season next year.. it wont be his rookie season? According to you he will not...

Uhh. so if RJ Hampshire races the full premier class SX season next year.. it wont be his rookie season? According to you he will not be since hes raced a handful of premier class SX races so far in his career. What about Christian Craig? Was 2023 not his rookie season in the premier class since he had already raced some premier class SX races before?

What school did some of you vitards go to? Let me guess.. homeschool. 

 

NateDawg241 wrote:

You literally used the same homeschool insult on me twice in one day, lol. I guess it's hard to come up with new insults when you're...

You literally used the same homeschool insult on me twice in one day, lol. I guess it's hard to come up with new insults when you're too busy gargling on Jett's nutsack

Jett is older now than McGrath was during his rookie season in the premier class. That is an undeniable fact. You're wrong, get over it 

Tate517 wrote:

Uhh. so if RJ Hampshire races the full premier class SX season next year.. it wont be his rookie season? According to you he will not...

Uhh. so if RJ Hampshire races the full premier class SX season next year.. it wont be his rookie season? According to you he will not be since hes raced a handful of premier class SX races so far in his career. What about Christian Craig? Was 2023 not his rookie season in the premier class since he had already raced some premier class SX races before?

What school did some of you vitards go to? Let me guess.. homeschool. 

 

NateDawg241 wrote:

You literally used the same homeschool insult on me twice in one day, lol. I guess it's hard to come up with new insults when you're...

You literally used the same homeschool insult on me twice in one day, lol. I guess it's hard to come up with new insults when you're too busy gargling on Jett's nutsack

Jett is older now than McGrath was during his rookie season in the premier class. That is an undeniable fact. You're wrong, get over it 

Magoofan wrote:

The irony is that the public schools and many big colleges are the ones churning out the idiots and candy-asses for some time now....   Not...

The irony is that the public schools and many big colleges are the ones churning out the idiots and candy-asses for some time now....   Not a chance I'd "public school" my kid today.    Public schools ain't what they used to be.    (yes, I used ain't...lol)

 

NateDawg241 wrote:

Jett isn't making it to 73, lol. He has 9 wins in his first two seasons, McGrath had 19. And if Jett is going to have...

Jett isn't making it to 73, lol. He has 9 wins in his first two seasons, McGrath had 19. And if Jett is going to have a 1997-ish season then he needs to offset it by a season like 1996 when MC won 14 out of 15 races. Jett will never accomplish that even with a longer schedule

Maybe now Jett is starting to realize why no one has ever come close to McGrath's record

Dirty Points wrote:

Yeah, but Jett still has another year to go before he's the same age as Showtime his rookie season in the big class. So he actually...

Yeah, but Jett still has another year to go before he's the same age as Showtime his rookie season in the big class. So he actually has a 9-win and a Championship head start, year-for-year.

Johnny Ringo wrote:

There are still people that dislike RC because he wore a crown 23 years ago

Chris_Buehler wrote:

Even more silly considering how humble RC seems. 

washingtonstate80-125cc wrote:

MC was untouchable for all of his 7 title winning seasons. I’m just old enough to have witnessed the second half of his career. I don’t...

MC was untouchable for all of his 7 title winning seasons. I’m just old enough to have witnessed the second half of his career. I don’t think the younger guys that don’t know understand how dominant he was. No one was anywhere near him year after year, with the one odd Suzuki year being the only exception. Jett is very good, and had a phenomenal outdoor season in a class that was decimated by injuries, but other than that he is nowhere near the dominance of MC. In a 450 class that is now full of healthy competition, Jett has been beat heads up by three different riders this year alone. That never happened to MC until the very end of his career. Jett will likely stack up a lot of titles like RC and RV, but getting to 72 requires sheer dominance week in and week out for nearly a decade.

Echo wrote:

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by...

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by the end admitted that the level had risen from 2022 which everyone said was the "gnarliest season ever" a year where Chase held the red plate a lot - Jett didnt let Chase lead a single lap, let alone win. Chase is so strong that he could win from 40th with Jett compromised. Not to mention the champ from just 2 yeaers prior was on the gate and riding strong.

Echo wrote:

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by...

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by the end admitted that the level had risen from 2022 which everyone said was the "gnarliest season ever" a year where Chase held the red plate a lot - Jett didnt let Chase lead a single lap, let alone win. Chase is so strong that he could win from 40th with Jett compromised. Not to mention the champ from just 2 yeaers prior was on the gate and riding strong.

NateDawg241 wrote:

Lol, greatest motocross season ever? He didn't even have to race the defending champ 🤣 And Chase was a shell of himself because he had 2...

Lol, greatest motocross season ever? He didn't even have to race the defending champ 🤣 And Chase was a shell of himself because he had 2 concussions right before the season and missed time. 

Anderson and Webb were both out injured too. Roczen only did 1 race and he gave Jett all he wanted at High Point even though Roczen has been nowhere close to Tomac outdoors in recent years. 

2004 is the best MX season ever. Ricky was destroying everyone by a mile and he did it coming fresh off an ACL tear.

Echo wrote:

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by...

We're not about to downplay what is objectively the greatest motocross season in the history of the sport. He beat Chase in 16 motos who by the end admitted that the level had risen from 2022 which everyone said was the "gnarliest season ever" a year where Chase held the red plate a lot - Jett didnt let Chase lead a single lap, let alone win. Chase is so strong that he could win from 40th with Jett compromised. Not to mention the champ from just 2 yeaers prior was on the gate and riding strong.

NateDawg241 wrote:

Lol, greatest motocross season ever? He didn't even have to race the defending champ 🤣 And Chase was a shell of himself because he had 2...

Lol, greatest motocross season ever? He didn't even have to race the defending champ 🤣 And Chase was a shell of himself because he had 2 concussions right before the season and missed time. 

Anderson and Webb were both out injured too. Roczen only did 1 race and he gave Jett all he wanted at High Point even though Roczen has been nowhere close to Tomac outdoors in recent years. 

2004 is the best MX season ever. Ricky was destroying everyone by a mile and he did it coming fresh off an ACL tear.

Echo wrote:

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have...

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have like 2 national wins combined. Competition wise it's superior to Stews and both of RC's undefeated years. None of them had someone on Chase or Dylan's level

Echo wrote:

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have...

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have like 2 national wins combined. Competition wise it's superior to Stews and both of RC's undefeated years. None of them had someone on Chase or Dylan's level

NateDawg241 wrote:

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV...

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV (2 of the greatest motocross riders ever)  before getting launched to the moon at Millville.

Speaking of Millville, there were multiple races in 2023 where Chase was straight up faster than Jett and caught him from behind, but couldn't make the pass. That NEVER happened to RC in 2004.

Echo wrote:

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have...

He beat roczen after losing his visor in a crash and making up a big gap. And how are you mentioning webb and ando who have like 2 national wins combined. Competition wise it's superior to Stews and both of RC's undefeated years. None of them had someone on Chase or Dylan's level

NateDawg241 wrote:

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV...

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV (2 of the greatest motocross riders ever)  before getting launched to the moon at Millville.

Speaking of Millville, there were multiple races in 2023 where Chase was straight up faster than Jett and caught him from behind, but couldn't make the pass. That NEVER happened to RC in 2004.

Echo wrote:

Mate, Reed 2011 is not the same as Reed in 2004 or even his 2009 mx title. In 09 he got demolshed by rv and alessi...

Mate, Reed 2011 is not the same as Reed in 2004 or even his 2009 mx title. In 09 he got demolshed by rv and alessi before they went out. 2011 was his peak season, though. Reed Maybe wins it without the crash but I do think Dungey has a stronger "should have won" case that year. If you're playing this silly game of equating a rider in one year to every other year of their career we can say Dylan comfortably beat Tomac in 2021 who was already a 3x national champ and would win the following year - and Tomac has the 2nd best mx legacy in the states. 

NateDawg241 wrote:

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV...

Dude what?! Chad Reed wasn't as good as Chase or Dylan?! 😂 I guess you forgot 2011 when Reed was straight up beating Dungey and RV (2 of the greatest motocross riders ever)  before getting launched to the moon at Millville.

Speaking of Millville, there were multiple races in 2023 where Chase was straight up faster than Jett and caught him from behind, but couldn't make the pass. That NEVER happened to RC in 2004.

Echo wrote:

Mate, Reed 2011 is not the same as Reed in 2004 or even his 2009 mx title. In 09 he got demolshed by rv and alessi...

Mate, Reed 2011 is not the same as Reed in 2004 or even his 2009 mx title. In 09 he got demolshed by rv and alessi before they went out. 2011 was his peak season, though. Reed Maybe wins it without the crash but I do think Dungey has a stronger "should have won" case that year. If you're playing this silly game of equating a rider in one year to every other year of their career we can say Dylan comfortably beat Tomac in 2021 who was already a 3x national champ and would win the following year - and Tomac has the 2nd best mx legacy in the states. 

NateDawg241 wrote:

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight...

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight up in motocross

And you can't claim Jett's season was more dominant when he was caught from behind multiple times.

Echo wrote:

Mate, Reed 2011 is not the same as Reed in 2004 or even his 2009 mx title. In 09 he got demolshed by rv and alessi...

Mate, Reed 2011 is not the same as Reed in 2004 or even his 2009 mx title. In 09 he got demolshed by rv and alessi before they went out. 2011 was his peak season, though. Reed Maybe wins it without the crash but I do think Dungey has a stronger "should have won" case that year. If you're playing this silly game of equating a rider in one year to every other year of their career we can say Dylan comfortably beat Tomac in 2021 who was already a 3x national champ and would win the following year - and Tomac has the 2nd best mx legacy in the states. 

NateDawg241 wrote:

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight...

2011 Reed would've gotten his shit kicked in by Ricky just like he did every other time they raced outdoors. Reed never once beat RC straight up in motocross

And you can't claim Jett's season was more dominant when he was caught from behind multiple times.

Echo wrote:

I didn't say most dominant. I said it was the greatest - which is to say the most impressive. As a 19 year old rookie *would...

I didn't say most dominant. I said it was the greatest - which is to say the most impressive. As a 19 year old rookie *would turn 20 after like round 9 he went undefeated and CHASE SEXTON wasn't able to lead a single lap against him. Chase is definitely superior to any version of Reed outdoors. Supercross - different story of course. Ricky Carmichael is the greatest motocross racer in history and I think I'll be saying the same thing 20 years from now when Jett is long gone. It doesn't change the fact that I believe 2023 Jett is the most impressive season.