What happened to Starling & Moranz?

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Kyle978 wrote:
It’s GoFundMe season, of course Starling is popping up. 

It’s GoFundMe season, of course Starling is popping up. 

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Kyle, I’m not here asking for money. Only Speaking my side of things. 

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Kyle978 wrote:
It’s GoFundMe season, of course Starling is popping up. 

It’s GoFundMe season, of course Starling is popping up. 

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Kyle, I’m not here asking for money. Only Speaking my side of things. 

Don't let Kyle diss you like that bro

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12/15/2024 2:04pm Edited Date/Time 12/15/2024 2:05pm

Not from me lol. Starling actually annoys me quite a bit when he's on Pulp, but I've never heard anything about him being toxic. 

What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

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12/15/2024 2:30pm

Not from me lol. Starling actually annoys me quite a bit when he's on Pulp, but I've never heard anything about him being toxic. 

What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where...

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

Shots fired! 😁

Ole Nat goes after folks in the industry with a shotgun. 🙃

 

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12/15/2024 2:34pm

What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where...

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

Shots fired! 😁

Ole Nat goes after folks in the industry with a shotgun. 🙃

 

Yeah I'm totally going after them, huh? I totally disrespected Starling and ML, right?!?!

I hope your comment is sarcastic lol. ML has done a pretty good job here, definitely better than than the last guy. But I'm not a fan of his style on Pulp. Starling annoys me a bit on the same 3 hour podcast.

Must mean I hate them. 

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Kyle978 wrote:
It’s GoFundMe season, of course Starling is popping up. 

It’s GoFundMe season, of course Starling is popping up. 

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Kyle, I’m not here asking for money. Only Speaking my side of things. 

I speak for most when I say we respect and admire your efforts and honesty. Very few people your age follow their dreams to reality, most just wish them so. Good luck in the coming season, treasure your young family, and keep focus on your goals. Many of us are rooting for you, and you are a breath of fresh air on pulp.

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Yeah I'm totally going after them, huh? I totally disrespected Starling and ML, right?!?!I hope your comment is sarcastic lol. ML has done a pretty good...

Yeah I'm totally going after them, huh? I totally disrespected Starling and ML, right?!?!

I hope your comment is sarcastic lol. ML has done a pretty good job here, definitely better than than the last guy. But I'm not a fan of his style on Pulp. Starling annoys me a bit on the same 3 hour podcast.

Must mean I hate them. 

I agree 💯 with you mate. And when I think why, it is mainly that they both talk over guests/Matthes and try and make the convo about themselves with relatable stories. 
Like you, don’t hate the fellas, just don’t like them on Pulp

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Not from me lol. Starling actually annoys me quite a bit when he's on Pulp, but I've never heard anything about him being toxic. 

What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where...

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

Michael “in a sense” Lindsay? No way.  🥱

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What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where...

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

soggy wrote:

Michael “in a sense” Lindsay? No way.  🥱

"per se"

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You sure can, but when it turns out to be completely wrong and targeting someone's character, maybe own it publicly since you put it out there...

You sure can, but when it turns out to be completely wrong and targeting someone's character, maybe own it publicly since you put it out there publicly.

You know, maturity and all 😂

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Maybe he’s basing his opinion off of more than just this instance? But hey….this is vital and as soon as a fast guy shows up and posts...

Maybe he’s basing his opinion off of more than just this instance? 

But hey….this is vital and as soon as a fast guy shows up and posts the tongues immediately come out for he ball licking so by all means carry on….

I guess we'll never know why he has this opinion. All we get is "I guess I'm not allowed an opinion" and silence like my teenage children try on their Mother and a couple of cool guy ball gargling comments. 

You're right, this is vital, just waiting for the usual suspects to add a couple of shitty memes and the cycle will be complete.

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Yeah I'm totally going after them, huh? I totally disrespected Starling and ML, right?!?!I hope your comment is sarcastic lol. ML has done a pretty good...

Yeah I'm totally going after them, huh? I totally disrespected Starling and ML, right?!?!

I hope your comment is sarcastic lol. ML has done a pretty good job here, definitely better than than the last guy. But I'm not a fan of his style on Pulp. Starling annoys me a bit on the same 3 hour podcast.

Must mean I hate them. 

Haha, I feel zero disrespect. I’m not everyone’s cup of tea, neither is Jett Lawrence etc. 

 

I appreciate the feedback on things. I do notice sometimes I talk over people on pulp, it’s so hard to find the window to talk when you’re in a room with a couple people all talking to just one person on the other line. Sometimes you mess up, and speak without realizing if they’re gonna talk more or something like that cause you’re also looking at Steve, and whoever else is co host and there’s a lot going on. 

I’ll work on being better with it all. I personally like ML on the show. I love the knowledge with things he says and also his thoughts on this or that. 

I appreciate everyone on here, wether it was good or negative towards me. I’m only human. 

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12/15/2024 4:11pm

Not from me lol. Starling actually annoys me quite a bit when he's on Pulp, but I've never heard anything about him being toxic. 

What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

You’re not annoying per say, but you have a tendency to talk over others. I think it comes from lack of experience on a pod cast with that format. 

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I didn’t know much about Starling, good or bad, prior to Pulp, but I thought he was a great co-host and really enjoyed his perspective and commentary. 

Best of luck this season JS!

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12/15/2024 4:31pm

Sounds like a case for Washington 

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Is there any other sport that fills ( pretty well) major stadiums that pays the athletes so poorly?  Mind blowing… I’d love to see a Feld P&L on just one Venue.

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You’ve made a fan out of me. Best of luck to you Justin. 

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Team403 wrote:
Is there any other sport that fills ( pretty well) major stadiums that pays the athletes so poorly?  Mind blowing… I’d love to see a Feld...

Is there any other sport that fills ( pretty well) major stadiums that pays the athletes so poorly?  Mind blowing… I’d love to see a Feld P&L on just one Venue.

Soccer in the US

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Coming away with $300-400 for a 10-to-15th place finish at the professional level? With a baby at home? Yeah dude, that risk-to-reward ratio is nonsensical.

Just to make it clear on what I mean by that..That’s after flight / hotel, mechanic pay + his bonus, his travel, his hotel. The only bonus...

Just to make it clear on what I mean by that..


That’s after flight / hotel, mechanic pay + his bonus, his travel, his hotel. 

The only bonus I had from anything KMR was I believe gear. That’s all I had heard, at least. 

You “believe”? Wouldn’t the details all be in writing by this time of the year? If not, people in this sport are their own worst enemies 

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yak651 wrote:

You “believe”? Wouldn’t the details all be in writing by this time of the year? If not, people in this sport are their own worst enemies 

No, not in writing. I did not have a contract. 

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Team403 wrote:
Is there any other sport that fills ( pretty well) major stadiums that pays the athletes so poorly?  Mind blowing… I’d love to see a Feld...

Is there any other sport that fills ( pretty well) major stadiums that pays the athletes so poorly?  Mind blowing… I’d love to see a Feld P&L on just one Venue.

JazzyJJ wrote:

Soccer in the US

Ok maybe true BUT - catastrophic injury potential notably less.

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For Justin to come on here and defend himself is enough to make me a fan as this is a tough crowd.

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yak651 wrote:

You “believe”? Wouldn’t the details all be in writing by this time of the year? If not, people in this sport are their own worst enemies 

You might be surprised how little is in writing in this industry! Good in some ways, bad in others... A lot of guys are solid on their word in this industry, which is lacking in the rest of the world these days. 

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Luxon MX wrote:
You might be surprised how little is in writing in this industry! Good in some ways, bad in others... A lot of guys are solid on...

You might be surprised how little is in writing in this industry! Good in some ways, bad in others... A lot of guys are solid on their word in this industry, which is lacking in the rest of the world these days. 

Honestly as a outsider to the sport.. i would take maybe 5 people for their word if i was in the industry... The rest need to sign on a dotted line period, ive read/ heard wayyy too many horror stories. For instance i know somebody who had to accept a bike at the end of the season because the team couldnt or wouldnt pay them.. back in 2013 ish....Idk i just know alot of what ive been told does not inspire trust or even the belief that they mean what they say.

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yak651 wrote:

You “believe”? Wouldn’t the details all be in writing by this time of the year? If not, people in this sport are their own worst enemies 

No, not in writing. I did not have a contract. 

Thanks for answering all our questions. So is it typical not to have a contract by this time or where you planning your season around a handshake?

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12/15/2024 10:24pm Edited Date/Time 12/15/2024 10:26pm

Remember Starling and Moranz are privateers trying to scrape a “team” together by joining forces.

Teams that pay riders salaries have contracts.

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Not from me lol. Starling actually annoys me quite a bit when he's on Pulp, but I've never heard anything about him being toxic. 

What part annoys you? I ask just for future reference to try and be better. 

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where...

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

No one is as bad as Queefer and his disgusting 'after dark' made-up stories. 

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I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where...

I appreciate you asking, but nothing I can particularly point to. Also not saying I don't want you to success and I pay attention to where you're at on the weekends. You definitely don't annoy me as much as ML does on there 😂🍻

soggy wrote:

Michael “in a sense” Lindsay? No way.  🥱

ML512 wrote:

"per se"

Well played ML. 

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Never change Mx… between suing tracks and trying to kill each other the track, we are truely,y rebels without a clue…

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12/16/2024 3:51am Edited Date/Time 12/16/2024 3:53am

It really is awesome that Starling posts here on Vital and the majority of us appreciate him being here, so I say thank you Justin. 

Some folk here need to reevaluate their comments. It ain't nice dudes. I understand and get it if you disagree or don't gel with someone but come on, there are better ways to express opinions.

We need more Pro riders and industry folk here on Vital, they need to be encouraged to post...not shot down when they do...go figure...

Wish you all the best Starling for 2025.

Edit. Michael, you and you crew are doing a awesome job here and most of us appreciate it. Thank you.

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Good luck JS!  We will be rooting for you!

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