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This extends far past LACR, this lawsuit directly effects every legit, insured, sanctioned event/track in the United States and further.
Usually when a track gets sued, it’s not a choice, this time it was.
Why don't we all get together and sue EKS.
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Yeah, right. This site takes $$ from EKS, yet here you all are. You all complain on here about Rich and the EKS brand, and pull out the pitchforks, so stick to your principles and leave.
MXA did a fluff piece on Eks a few years ago…wonder if they knew about pending lawsuit and just took the Bro down route and just ignored it?
This is a story that should reported on but we’re a niche sport with a tiny media that all rely on industry advertising so it is what it is.
I have a lot of respect for ML because he seems to be the most neutral in scooping stories.
Maybe he is staying here to bring attention the hypocrisy of Vital taking money from a company that is actively participating in the destruction of the sport in your state. If you love motocross and being able to partake in it, you should pay attention.
I get it.
Here’s a hard to explain position: I can see damn near everyone’s position!
It all starts with building a track, in the modern era, that allows for someone to LAUNCH OFF A 30 FOOT CLIFF! There’s no getting away from that fact of life. Words like “Ignorantly” are used as a non-endearing yet legal terms that end up being replicated by “negligent” as the lawyers make their way towards the words “liable” and “responsible”…and never mind “culpable”.
And, I know Rick Ryan, he’s not gonna stick his nose into something if he’s not outright passionate about it. His statement seals the deal.
Then, someone who’s considered “Core Moto” sues a legendary SoCal race track over his sons medical expenses…which is what this really comes down to, isn’t it?
Suing one of our beloved tracks? Fuck, that’s a NO WIN SITUATION.
There’s sooooooo many assumptions made to support our various positions. All of which I kinda understand…this is “OUR sport” and as of late we’re getting fucked over by the lawyers and their plaintiffs…and IRRESPONSIBLE track operators…that last one is gonna sting and someone’s gonna come back with…
Ride at Your Own Risk. Yes, I get that…too, it, how well does that hold up when you get into negligence and outright belligerence when the issue is dragged out into the light of day…in a legal setting…and someone’s SERIOUSLY INJURED & has HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF MEDICAL BILLS?
Yes,” Ride at Your Own Risk”…However, there’s outright “negligence” and then there’s the harm to the individual. Yup, I can understand all of this.
As I said…I get it. We’re all taking sides and we’re all pissed.
Here’s my contribution to a solution: I’d be VERY interested in creating a new ownership group of “members” complete with an annual membership/dues to purchase a bond or insurance as necessary to operate a newly renamed facility…compete with “new safety standards”…a new charter…hell, a new “mission statement” all about safety with the desired affect being to get insurance co’s to recognize “the change in focus”…this is California after all.
I’m sooooo over the labeling of “who’s the bad guy” or “who’s at fault” and for what. Rich’s kid is permanently physically harmed and one of our historic and stellar SoCal tracks is closing...an awesome sand track at that!
Time to stop bitching and start fixing.
To the the guys that have made LACR so much fun over all these years, I’m sorry this is happening.
To the Taylor family, I’m sorry for what you’ve been thru.
If this whole thing was about the local grocery store having to close because a kid fell though a hole on aisle 2, then nobody would care.
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. P.S when youre back lurking: Hows the human rights in Thailand?
He’s not going anywhere…..too much content on Vital.
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I think that was the joke right?
Right..... because the whole thing wouldn't endanger the existence of grocery stores in general.
Also, let eks spend all the money they have on advertising here. It's the perfect place to spend it. ML gets paid and can keep the thing running while everyone here knows the story and those ad dollars aren't likely to produce a great return on investment. Embed every EKS banner ad in one of these threads.
Well we certainly wouldn't care as much because we don't ride our dirt bikes in a grocery store.
Asking a question but in no way defend Rich Taylor. Was it really just the one lawsuit that shut down LACR? I may be naive but would think it would take more than 1 lawsuit to have insurance cancelled?
Yep, like Whoopi Goldberg.
Pit Row
Oh. Probably 🤦♂️
"Well we certainly wouldn't care as much because we don't ride our dirt bikes in a grocery store."...
Holy i need more popcorn to read every comment on this page, looks like a script to a poorly thought of movie with some of these comments from people....
All actions have consequences….
If in doubt follow this story
Holy crap. I'd assumed it was the insurance company also, didn't realize he himself initiated the lawsuit. What a complete douche that deserves to be blackballed.
Local track near me is a very beginner friendly track, but also has multiple doubles (small doubles) that have signs right before them saying “DO NOT ROLL.”
It is also stated clearly at the sign in, that multiple jumps on the track have a drop off at the take off and that you CANNOT ROLL THE JUMP.
Some lawyers kid was there and rolled one of the jumps, flipped over and broke a bunch of bones. Now the track has had pending lawsuits for a while now.
This situation reminds me of that. You were out of control on your dirtbike and launched a berm. If you launch a berm anywhere, you’re gonna go flying and probably get hurt, it is what it is.
It’s like racing a hare scramble, smacking into a tree, and suing because you smacked into a tree. This sport is risky. It’s dangerous. We try our best to mitigate the risk. But to remove all the risk, then there would be no motocross.
Included in the whole insurance/pit vehicle banning fiasco was comment about how many claims are people getting stabbed/impaled riding in the woods and how we are supposed to sweep trails and do everything in our power to minimize that risk. That is nuts
There was a young girl that passed away there , I think it was this year. I saw a news story on Youtube about it. The parents were quoted saying they were not suing them. The news story said there was some lawsuit in June of this year that was the reason for closing.
My mom fell and broke her hip about 3 weeks ago and is in a rehab place right now. Having a family member with a major injury is hard. I can not imagine what Rich was going through, what that girls parent's are going through. I know its been hard on all of my siblings with my mom's injury and the anesthesia really did a number on her. She has dementia , but it was found early on and the meds were working amazingly. I knew the risk going in that she could have some bad side effects. She had designated me to make decisions for her if she was unable to. That was a hard choice to make. Give her the chance to walk again and risk her mental issues becoming much worse, or let it heal itself and most likely never walk again, and all the pain and stress that would bring. I'm hopeful that her fog will keep going away when she's back home in a familiar environment again.
Knowing how much Rich loves the sport, how invested he is in the sport. Suing must have been a very difficult choice to make. I don't know him personally. And I am not defending him here. Just saying that Rich must have felt justified in what he was doing. Knowing how badly it could impact his company. For me its hard to totally condemn him for what he did. I'm not a fan of suing at all. I can understand how he felt the track was dangerous with the berm that dropped off. But if I put myself in his place, I would feel horrible for not walking the track and pointing out the section. Or not letting my kid ride if I saw something I felt was unsafe. Seems like track walks at the local level have gone away.
I feel bad for everybody that has lost a track, for the families of anybody that has lost their life or been injured at that track or others. I know a couple track owners who have had fatalities at their tracks. And it hits them VERY hard too. I do wish that Rich had gone a go fund me route instead.
My parents always told me if I went to the ER,
Tell them you crashed your BICYCLE in OUR DRIVEWAY, that way the insurance companies don't sue the tracks or our friends.
I thought everyone knew that?
I sympathize with your take on this, and I think it's a noble thought to hope those things are true about Taylor.
The evidence, unfortunately, paints a different picture.
Sure there is a chance he thought long and hard and it was a difficult decision to sue....but you have to acknowledge the fact he made a terrible and selfish decision, and then thought people would back him. And here we are.
Some people go most of their lives making decent and good decisions and then one day a huge payday is staring them in the face and they become a total piece of crap and do something like this. Don't forget his kid is completely recovered and living like this crash never happened. Important detail to remember.
I think that is the MOST important thing to remember, his kid is fine.
Don't know it this has been posted here yet, but the last photo shows Rich's son laying at the bottom of the berm that he went over. Some people falsely claimed it was nearly a sheer cliff that went into a ravine and was arpund 60 feet to the bottom. Doesn't look anything like that to me.
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