HD and El Hombre black listed?

11/19/2024 9:41pm
It seems reasonable to remind the crowd that those most involved in him getting a paycheck have all been known to straight up lie, for both...

It seems reasonable to remind the crowd that those most involved in him getting a paycheck have all been known to straight up lie, for both performance and marketing reasons. 

 

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So you think it's reasonable that Deegan's mechanic would support a completely fabricated lie, which would open him up to not only libel, but essentially ruin...

So you think it's reasonable that Deegan's mechanic would support a completely fabricated lie, which would open him up to not only libel, but essentially ruin his reputation in the community and any chances of working with other teams in the future?

It seems to me that many of you are stretching any sense of credibility beyond reasonable bounds. 

I said it seems reasonable to remind the crowd. The rest of what you said is what you think.

I don't care enough to speculate on this drama. I have no reason to believe anything I see on a screen from either camp. 

Credibility is a great filter for determining where to give my attention and energy.

 

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11/19/2024 10:09pm
Kyzer138 wrote:
Leaving this here to continue stirring the pot because why not…

Leaving this here to continue stirring the pot because why not…

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11/19/2024 10:16pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2024 10:18pm
I said it seems reasonable to remind the crowd. The rest of what you said is what you think.I don't care enough to speculate on this...

I said it seems reasonable to remind the crowd. The rest of what you said is what you think.

I don't care enough to speculate on this drama. I have no reason to believe anything I see on a screen from either camp. 

Credibility is a great filter for determining where to give my attention and energy.

 

Why do you think it's reasonable to "remind the crowd" that a certain team is known to straight up lie?  

It's because you want implications to be drawn from that statement on the credibility of Deegan's mechanic and what he said. 

It's poisoning the well, and you don't get to come in and throw gas on the fire, and then turn around and say that you don't care enough to speculate when that is exactly what you are doing, and what you want others to do by attacking "credibility" without answering the question I asked. 

Acting like a disinterested third party in the matter is simply a ploy. 

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11/19/2024 10:25pm
I said it seems reasonable to remind the crowd. The rest of what you said is what you think.I don't care enough to speculate on this...

I said it seems reasonable to remind the crowd. The rest of what you said is what you think.

I don't care enough to speculate on this drama. I have no reason to believe anything I see on a screen from either camp. 

Credibility is a great filter for determining where to give my attention and energy.

 

971_Fan wrote:
Why do you think it's reasonable to "remind the crowd" that a certain team is known to straight up lie?  It's because you want implications to...

Why do you think it's reasonable to "remind the crowd" that a certain team is known to straight up lie?  

It's because you want implications to be drawn from that statement on the credibility of Deegan's mechanic and what he said. 

It's poisoning the well, and you don't get to come in and throw gas on the fire, and then turn around and say that you don't care enough to speculate when that is exactly what you are doing, and what you want others to do by attacking "credibility" without answering the question I asked. 

Acting like a disinterested third party in the matter is simply a ploy. 

Who do you think you are telling me what I can and cannot do? Lol

Ps. You are experiencing your own perception and projecting those implications onto me. 

Pps. I am disinterested. There is no fire here.

 

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11/19/2024 10:29pm

6 pages of absolutely no credible outstanding proof and a bunch of nuthuggers fanning the flames on both sides. Someone’s taking a page out of the kardashian’s book and it’s working….

 

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11/19/2024 10:34pm Edited Date/Time 11/19/2024 10:36pm
Who do you think you are telling me what I can and cannot do? LolPs. You are experiencing your own perception and projecting those implications onto...

Who do you think you are telling me what I can and cannot do? Lol

Ps. You are experiencing your own perception and projecting those implications onto me. 

Pps. I am disinterested. There is no fire here.

 

I can't tell you what to do. I should have said insofar as credibility is concerned, it's disingenuous to claim you don't care enough to speculate when at the same time, you are adding fuel to the fire. 

As far as being a disinterested 3rd party...well, here you are in the middle of the thread so all your bs about me projecting is, as I said previously, a ploy to maintain objectivity without answering my question.

Haveva good day. 

 

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11/19/2024 10:42pm
Who do you think you are telling me what I can and cannot do? LolPs. You are experiencing your own perception and projecting those implications onto...

Who do you think you are telling me what I can and cannot do? Lol

Ps. You are experiencing your own perception and projecting those implications onto me. 

Pps. I am disinterested. There is no fire here.

 

971_Fan wrote:
I can't tell you what to do. I should have said insofar as credibility is concerned, it's disingenuous to claim you don't care enough to speculate...

I can't tell you what to do. I should have said insofar as credibility is concerned, it's disingenuous to claim you don't care enough to speculate when at the same time, you are adding fuel to the fire. 

As far as being a disinterested 3rd party...well, here you are in the middle of the thread so all your bs about me projecting is, as I said previously, a ploy to maintain objectivity without answering my question.

Haveva good day. 

 

You are the one calling it fuel on a fire. You have every right to see it that way. 

However, I owe you nothing and I will see it my way. No fire. Simply a PSA.

And I’m giving my attention and energy to you (which is about to come to a conclusion), not the drama in this thread. 

I have no emotions surrounding the topic. 

No fire.

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I would like to know what duffe had to say about Deegan's injury over the past year so I know how much credibility to give his Instagram comments. 

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11/20/2024 12:26am
You are the one calling it fuel on a fire. You have every right to see it that way. However, I owe you nothing and I will...

You are the one calling it fuel on a fire. You have every right to see it that way. 

However, I owe you nothing and I will see it my way. No fire. Simply a PSA.

And I’m giving my attention and energy to you (which is about to come to a conclusion), not the drama in this thread. 

I have no emotions surrounding the topic. 

No fire.

You're right, I am the one calling it fuel on fire. Because that's what it is. I never said that's what you are calling it because I don't expect you to admit it. 

But you threw shade on the relationship between Deegan's mechanic and those who pay his bills, and are pretending to have "no emotions" in the matter which is laughable.  Just like your claim that it is me you are giving your attention to when in fact you entered the thread before me. 

Just like you show up in all Deegan threads.  But let me guess...you are simply a disinterested third party?

 

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11/20/2024 12:40am
You are the one calling it fuel on a fire. You have every right to see it that way. However, I owe you nothing and I will...

You are the one calling it fuel on a fire. You have every right to see it that way. 

However, I owe you nothing and I will see it my way. No fire. Simply a PSA.

And I’m giving my attention and energy to you (which is about to come to a conclusion), not the drama in this thread. 

I have no emotions surrounding the topic. 

No fire.

971_Fan wrote:
You're right, I am the one calling it fuel on fire. Because that's what it is. I never said that's what you are calling it because...

You're right, I am the one calling it fuel on fire. Because that's what it is. I never said that's what you are calling it because I don't expect you to admit it. 

But you threw shade on the relationship between Deegan's mechanic and those who pay his bills, and are pretending to have "no emotions" in the matter which is laughable.  Just like your claim that it is me you are giving your attention to when in fact you entered the thread before me. 

Just like you show up in all Deegan threads.  But let me guess...you are simply a disinterested third party?

 

You’re right 

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So Kooksey is the source for this, umm, ‘story’. This Kooksey? Really……

Hmmm I may reserve my judgement 😂

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11/20/2024 1:40am
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Two things:First, it’s far more likely to have been a case of “if they go we aren’t going” rather than an actual banning or blacklisting.Second, if...

Two things:

First, it’s far more likely to have been a case of “if they go we aren’t going” rather than an actual banning or blacklisting.

Second, if true does anyone really believe that it would have happened without Dazzy’s involvement/approval?

Nothing in this sport happens without Dazzys approval.

I'm bringing my Dad to work today to hold my hand.

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11/20/2024 1:47am

He was never going just stirring shit up like normal lol

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11/20/2024 2:21am

If any one keeps up to date on how the AUSX works, the paid riders that come to race are pretty much all grouped together and it’s made a holiday for the riders. 
Last Melbourne event they did all types of stuff through the city together. Dinners, boat cruises, tours etc… 


After all that beef. The last thing I’d want to do is be hanging out for a few days with another family I strongly dislike. 

Whole thing seems weird on all parts. 

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11/20/2024 3:31am

Was Deegan banned from the MXDN as well?

 

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11/20/2024 3:40am

I'm just trying to figure out which fans are the worse? The Lawrence fans or the Deegan fans hmmm

I have the answer. Yes

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11/20/2024 3:47am Edited Date/Time 11/20/2024 3:47am
Paul333 wrote:

Was Deegan banned from the MXDN as well?

 

Yes, 2 year suspension. He will be eligible to race in '25.

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So Kooksey is the source for this, umm, ‘story’. This Kooksey? Really……Hmmm I may reserve my judgement 😂

So Kooksey is the source for this, umm, ‘story’. This Kooksey? Really……

Hmmm I may reserve my judgement 😂

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Is this correct?

That idiot with zero connections created this? 

Ignore 

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11/20/2024 4:00am
Paul333 wrote:

Was Deegan banned from the MXDN as well?

 

Only from events outside his home turf 

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11/20/2024 4:02am
Paul333 wrote:

Was Deegan banned from the MXDN as well?

 

crusty_xx wrote:

Only from events outside his home turf 

Bingo..

 

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11/20/2024 4:28am
Paul333 wrote:

Was Deegan banned from the MXDN as well?

 

crusty_xx wrote:

Only from events outside his home turf 

Paul333 wrote:

Bingo..

 

I believe that it is called a court order

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11/20/2024 4:41am

Darkside said on pod that he got confirmation from Deegan himself that this is what Deegan had been told. No idea by who or how reliable the info Deegan got was but definitely some smoke here. 

also seems likely that cooksey has a Deegan source. You can practically hear Brian doing some of the cooksey rants himself and cooksey seems to be quite the fan boy. 

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11/20/2024 4:48am
Sandusky26 wrote:

Nothing in this sport happens without Dazzys approval.

I'm bringing my Dad to work today to hold my hand.

That's fuckin rich when talking about the Deegan's. 

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Yes (see earlier post).  This is an exhibition race and the Lawrences as star acts have all the power. In this case they've used it to...

Yes (see earlier post).  This is an exhibition race and the Lawrences as star acts have all the power. In this case they've used it to get back at Deegan and Anderson.  I personally feel no sympathy for either El Oldbre or Deegan. 

Why would folks who never intended to race need sympathy for being blacklisted? It’s more about the pettiness of Donut Inc..

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11/20/2024 5:04am Edited Date/Time 11/20/2024 5:06am

Real source said

“We not only don’t want them here, we would like them BLACKLISTED” 

Deegs and Duffe will verify.


I have a soft spot for Dark, but his journalistic take on this made him sound like a Fkng moron on the pony pod. Be better Dark.

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11/20/2024 5:09am
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If true this is extremely disappointing. Would have a lot to do with there agent more then likely, I am a Aussie and going myself and...

If true this is extremely disappointing. Would have a lot to do with there agent more then likely, I am a Aussie and going myself and looking forward to it as yes it is a homecoming for them but adding deegan and Anderson in is nothing but benefits for everyone. I look at it as the family’s that won’t and can’t afford to go to the states to see them race and how exciting it is for the kids to see people like Deegan over here cause he has done a lot for the sport already not matter if you like it or not. Always to sides to a story and will never know the full bottom of it but not looking great from the Lawerence camp

Thank you for proving Mathes opinion in his twitter comments are wrong. Dude got some sort of beef with the deegans and spins shit around to hate on them. 

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11/20/2024 5:19am

Jason Lawrence would be rolling over in his grave if he knew about what his cousins from Australia have been doing................

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11/20/2024 5:31am Edited Date/Time 11/20/2024 5:31am

Everyone laughs and things HD is the man for all the head games and stuff he does, but Lawrences do something and its treated different, imagine that

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