MXoN - Sunday: Races

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10/6/2024 12:08pm
KurtJ99 wrote:

Everyone : Celebrating Prados MXGP championship over Tim before Prado leaves for the US. 

Gasjer at MXDN: Hold my beer …got one more thing to show you. 

What did Prado have to prove by pushing the limit today?

 

How about Kay DeWolf career trajectory? Did he even win a moto in 2023? This guy is putting in the work and really raised his game

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10/6/2024 12:25pm

A fabulous event, it is a privilege to see so many high calibre riders and racing of such quality.

Always the best MX race of the year.

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kongols wrote:

Any word on Febvre?

FastEddy wrote:
Nothing yet... visor broke.  Maybe concussion?

Nothing yet... visor broke.  Maybe concussion?

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When you pass the mechanic pit board lane you turn right down the hill off that drop off then turn right again and  there is a small double jump. Tricky corner before the double and rutty. Febre jumped into the face of the double and hit his chest on the handlebars. Big impact.

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10/6/2024 12:45pm

I just want to thank the Materley Basin "crew". The track was superb, real motocross.

I loved the broadcast and the combination of Malin and JT worked great. Lisa was not out of place either.

I'm not sure how much credit should go to the fim and Infront, but well done.

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kongols wrote:

Any word on Febvre?

FastEddy wrote:
Nothing yet... visor broke.  Maybe concussion?

Nothing yet... visor broke.  Maybe concussion?

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bergie11 wrote:
When you pass the mechanic pit board lane you turn right down the hill off that drop off then turn right again and  there is a...

When you pass the mechanic pit board lane you turn right down the hill off that drop off then turn right again and  there is a small double jump. Tricky corner before the double and rutty. Febre jumped into the face of the double and hit his chest on the handlebars. Big impact.

Being reported that he had an eye injury…

10/6/2024 1:16pm

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nations

Some good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.
Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a google issue last moto.
De Wolf leaving to the US next week to try SX.
Febvre came up short and couldn't breathe

Also De Wolf mentioning he showed he was the fastest 250 rider in the world. Prado mentioned Tim showed that the GP guys are the best in the world this year. This race clearly matters to them.

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Even though USA didn't get the job done in the end, Tomac getting that holeshot and riding the way he did in the first half of...

Even though USA didn't get the job done in the end, Tomac getting that holeshot and riding the way he did in the first half of the race was very, very fun to watch. 

They did get the job done and did better than most expected. 

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10/6/2024 1:31pm

Awesome result for both team Australia and team USA. Eli really showed what he is made of, Webb made the best of an imperfect situation, and Plessinger did better than expected as well. Considering Plessinger was beating Tomac at the last few nationals, yet Tomac crushed Plessinger's results at this race, did Eli heal more or get faster? Does the pressure of this race get to Plessinger? Does Plessinger take it a little less seriously then some? 

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10/6/2024 1:31pm
Even though USA didn't get the job done in the end, Tomac getting that holeshot and riding the way he did in the first half of...

Even though USA didn't get the job done in the end, Tomac getting that holeshot and riding the way he did in the first half of the race was very, very fun to watch. 

VetRider97 wrote:

They did get the job done and did better than most expected. 

The Hunter brothers were at the front of the pack all year long for the last 2 years. Jett comes off the couch and wins SMX. All they needed was one good ride from their 250 guy. What Tomac did was super hero stuff. Webb offering to ride a 250, there's a patriot. Pretty impressive finish by Team USA. 

I'm happy for Oz and happy for us.

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10/6/2024 2:15pm

Just watched the highlites after riding today…looked awesome! Congratulations to the Aussies! And welll done by the USA ! A valiant effort for a last minute team…..

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crusty_xx wrote:
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nationsSome good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a...

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nations

Some good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.
Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a google issue last moto.
De Wolf leaving to the US next week to try SX.
Febvre came up short and couldn't breathe

Also De Wolf mentioning he showed he was the fastest 250 rider in the world. Prado mentioned Tim showed that the GP guys are the best in the world this year. This race clearly matters to them.

I don’t see anyone in the top 2 finishing teams who race the MXGP series. Not sure how or why Prado thinks the GP guys are the best in the world this year. 

J. Lawrence, H. Lawrence, Webster, Tomac, Webb and Plessinger. Strange thing for him to say. Especially when you really only have these guys plus Roczen and Antsie in the entire field who race the American series. He seems to think because essentially everyone who races the MXGP series vs 7 guys is a good test? Bring over the top 10 from their series in both classes and have a race. Then compare who is better. 

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10/6/2024 2:53pm

Congrats to Australia. There’s always next year to do better for the rest of the teams. 

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10/6/2024 3:08pm
crusty_xx wrote:
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nationsSome good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a...

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nations

Some good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.
Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a google issue last moto.
De Wolf leaving to the US next week to try SX.
Febvre came up short and couldn't breathe

Also De Wolf mentioning he showed he was the fastest 250 rider in the world. Prado mentioned Tim showed that the GP guys are the best in the world this year. This race clearly matters to them.

agn5008 wrote:
I don’t see anyone in the top 2 finishing teams who race the MXGP series. Not sure how or why Prado thinks the GP guys are...

I don’t see anyone in the top 2 finishing teams who race the MXGP series. Not sure how or why Prado thinks the GP guys are the best in the world this year. 

J. Lawrence, H. Lawrence, Webster, Tomac, Webb and Plessinger. Strange thing for him to say. Especially when you really only have these guys plus Roczen and Antsie in the entire field who race the American series. He seems to think because essentially everyone who races the MXGP series vs 7 guys is a good test? Bring over the top 10 from their series in both classes and have a race. Then compare who is better. 

I guess he just meant Tim winning the two big motos. I don't think he counted how many guys from which series were on the line.
There's never going to be a fair comparison. You could also say it's not fair that the Netherlands with a population twice as high as NYC has to race countries with a much bigger talent pool to pick from. But it's not the united nations of europe.

I also wouldnt say Kay really proved to be the fastest. Coenen was clearly faster, just couldnt keep it on two wheels. Well neither could Kay but he managed to not get hurt.

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10/6/2024 4:10pm

going to record these epic MX of Nations on CBS sports network 

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crusty_xx wrote:
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nationsSome good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a...

https://www.vitalmx.com/features/vital-mx-post-race-interviews-2024-motocross-nations

Some good stuff in here. Lewis with the best questions again.
Sounds like Prado was just empty and didn't have it in him today. Then a google issue last moto.
De Wolf leaving to the US next week to try SX.
Febvre came up short and couldn't breathe

Also De Wolf mentioning he showed he was the fastest 250 rider in the world. Prado mentioned Tim showed that the GP guys are the best in the world this year. This race clearly matters to them.

agn5008 wrote:
I don’t see anyone in the top 2 finishing teams who race the MXGP series. Not sure how or why Prado thinks the GP guys are...

I don’t see anyone in the top 2 finishing teams who race the MXGP series. Not sure how or why Prado thinks the GP guys are the best in the world this year. 

J. Lawrence, H. Lawrence, Webster, Tomac, Webb and Plessinger. Strange thing for him to say. Especially when you really only have these guys plus Roczen and Antsie in the entire field who race the American series. He seems to think because essentially everyone who races the MXGP series vs 7 guys is a good test? Bring over the top 10 from their series in both classes and have a race. Then compare who is better. 

crusty_xx wrote:
I guess he just meant Tim winning the two big motos. I don't think he counted how many guys from which series were on the line.There's...

I guess he just meant Tim winning the two big motos. I don't think he counted how many guys from which series were on the line.
There's never going to be a fair comparison. You could also say it's not fair that the Netherlands with a population twice as high as NYC has to race countries with a much bigger talent pool to pick from. But it's not the united nations of europe.

I also wouldnt say Kay really proved to be the fastest. Coenen was clearly faster, just couldnt keep it on two wheels. Well neither could Kay but he managed to not get hurt.

I agree. I really like Prado and Gajser so it’s no knock on them. I do think they’re two of the best riders in the world. Between those two, the Lawrence bros, Tomac, Sexton and Herlings any of those guys could win on any given weekend. It was just a weird thing to say given the results today. It’s not like the guys who participate in the AMA series underperformed. I’d say they all performed pretty well. Even Enzo Lopes finished 11th in race 3. 

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10/6/2024 4:51pm Edited Date/Time 10/6/2024 4:51pm
Trickamoto wrote:

A1 is twice as exciting.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

Unrelated. Are you going to round 1 of WSX in Vancouver?

Believe it or not I can't make it. We are moving my mom into her retirement facility that weekend of all weekends and there was no getting around it. Still may be like a 10% chance if everything worked out that I could blast down there last minute. You??

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10/6/2024 6:23pm
Trickamoto wrote:
Believe it or not I can't make it. We are moving my mom into her retirement facility that weekend of all weekends and there was no...

Believe it or not I can't make it. We are moving my mom into her retirement facility that weekend of all weekends and there was no getting around it. Still may be like a 10% chance if everything worked out that I could blast down there last minute. You??

No, I'm not going. I don't know what the attendance is going to look like, but I saw that the hospitality suites are sold out. 

IMO, they couldn't fill the stadium when RC, Reed, and Stewart were at their peak, so I don't think it'll be well attended, but who knows? 

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davis224 wrote:

This is why riders are hesitant to go. At least he raised his hand to go!

yak651 wrote:

Exactly, and if captain America lined up we would’ve most likely won even with APs results 

Press516 wrote:
Image a Sexton-Tomac-Deegan team.Unfortunately, we have to imagine it because the USA can’t get their shit together to build their best team.On the other hand, I...

Image a Sexton-Tomac-Deegan team.


Unfortunately, we have to imagine it because the USA can’t get their shit together to build their best team.


On the other hand, I couldn’t be more proud of the guys that went.  Amazing result!


And lastly, congrats to AUS!  Well deserved.  Hunter and Jett did exactly what was expected and Webster out performed my expectations in that first moto.  

The only loser for team USA this weekend was Haiden Deegan. 

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yak651 wrote:

Exactly, and if captain America lined up we would’ve most likely won even with APs results 

Press516 wrote:
Image a Sexton-Tomac-Deegan team.Unfortunately, we have to imagine it because the USA can’t get their shit together to build their best team.On the other hand, I...

Image a Sexton-Tomac-Deegan team.


Unfortunately, we have to imagine it because the USA can’t get their shit together to build their best team.


On the other hand, I couldn’t be more proud of the guys that went.  Amazing result!


And lastly, congrats to AUS!  Well deserved.  Hunter and Jett did exactly what was expected and Webster out performed my expectations in that first moto.  

Talon wrote:

The only loser for team USA this weekend was Haiden Deegan. 

Deegan and the fans that want to see the best go at it on the track.  Cooper did great, but we had a little “what could have been.”

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Press516 wrote:
Image a Sexton-Tomac-Deegan team.Unfortunately, we have to imagine it because the USA can’t get their shit together to build their best team.On the other hand, I...

Image a Sexton-Tomac-Deegan team.


Unfortunately, we have to imagine it because the USA can’t get their shit together to build their best team.


On the other hand, I couldn’t be more proud of the guys that went.  Amazing result!


And lastly, congrats to AUS!  Well deserved.  Hunter and Jett did exactly what was expected and Webster out performed my expectations in that first moto.  

Talon wrote:

The only loser for team USA this weekend was Haiden Deegan. 

Press516 wrote:
Deegan and the fans that want to see the best go at it on the track.  Cooper did great, but we had a little “what could...

Deegan and the fans that want to see the best go at it on the track.  Cooper did great, but we had a little “what could have been.”

Yep. You would think between a healthy Sexton and Deegan choosing to go we could have made up 3 points somewhere on the day. When you look at the top 8 teams they were the best 3 riders from that country without a doubt. USA always has some shit excuse for not sending it’s  very best 3. It’s getting old as fuck

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10/6/2024 11:27pm

250's fastest laps in race 1 and 2 

MXGP+MX2 

2.02.882 = Lucas Coenen 
2.03.696 = Kay De Wolf 
2.04.273 = Kyle Webster 
2.05.364 = Tom Vialle
2.05.841 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.05.893 = Andrea Adamo 
2.05.938 = Cooper Webb
2.06.195 = Max Anstie 
2.06.393 = Karlis Reisulis 
2.06.521 = Camden Mc Lellan 

MX2+OPEN 

2.05.706 = Kay De Wolf 
2.06.882 = Tom Vialle 
2.06.960 = Simon Laengenfelder 
2.07.406 = Cooper Webb
2.07.501 = Mikkel Haarup 
2.08.037 = Karlis Reisulis 
2.08.419 = Camden Mc Lellan 
2.08.160 = Kyle Webster 
2.09.199 = Andrea Adamo 
2.09.826 = Oriol Oliver

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10/6/2024 11:38pm

Webster has some speed, maybe now they can see he should have a ride in Europe for 2025, 250 or preferably 450.

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10/6/2024 11:40pm
Peddy wrote:

Ah man, just think what could have been if Sexton was here too. Should be lights out!

ky_savage wrote:

If Sexton was here, I feel we'd still be in the same position.  Him and ET are a pretty good trade-off.

Ya I said if sexton was here too. Meaning instead of AP.

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10/6/2024 11:47pm

Webster has some speed, maybe now they can see he should have a ride in Europe for 2025, 250 or preferably 450.

Webster is 28(?) - no chance of a 250 GP ride in Europe.  There's that utterly ***ked '23 and You Are Out Rule' in the GPs.

And, that age makes it hard for a US ride, I'd say, even though they, Thankfully, don't have an "age class ruling". 

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Webster has some speed, maybe now they can see he should have a ride in Europe for 2025, 250 or preferably 450.

Bearuno wrote:
Webster is 28(?) - no chance of a 250 GP ride in Europe.  There's that utterly ***ked '23 and You Are Out Rule' in the GPs.And...

Webster is 28(?) - no chance of a 250 GP ride in Europe.  There's that utterly ***ked '23 and You Are Out Rule' in the GPs.

And, that age makes it hard for a US ride, I'd say, even though they, Thankfully, don't have an "age class ruling". 

He should be on a 450 regardless. The 250 was a one off for MXdN.

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JT can't get Jett's balls out of his mouth. Apparently Jett was being cautious and it had nothing to do with Gajser dropping a 2:06 on...

JT can't get Jett's balls out of his mouth. Apparently Jett was being cautious and it had nothing to do with Gajser dropping a 2:06 on the last lap.

gregyou wrote:

I’m a Gajser fan, but they race just showed that Jett can run him down 

The race showed Jett had better lines and when Gajser saw them, he could drop his lap times when it mattered. He had a 2:06 on...

The race showed Jett had better lines and when Gajser saw them, he could drop his lap times when it mattered. He had a 2:06 on the last lap. And nobody had done that for the last 5 laps.

I just rewatched it and you’re right. Gajser def picked up on Jetts lines but ( I hate to say it) the lappers very much helped Gajser stay in touch. Jett ran into the lappers consistently at a bad spot causing him to take odd lines and make mistakes. But full credit to Gajser that last 1/2 lap was amazing. 

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I think this photo says it all 😆

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CPR wrote:

He should be on a 450 regardless. The 250 was a one off for MXdN.

Yes, he did what Webb is being lauded for (and, rightfully so, Webb stepped right up) and 'dropped down ' to a 250.

It's , perhaps, easier to get a start in 250s in the USA - the 1/2 season of SX being a somewhat 'gentler' way into the start of the US season(s).

Getting a 450 ride straight up, with good support, would be a hard ask.

I wonder what Yarrive Konksey (sp?)  could do about it? 

But then, Webby could be fully settled into a life here in OZ - I'm not sure if he's got a family and kids ?

 I'm rather guilty of not paying that much attention to the OZ series. No Appin this year, didn't get to the - Maitland? -  NSW Rd. Might not get to The Gong for SX either, unless  my neighbours across the road go - I shout them tickets: they transport me. Melb SX / WSX - nope. 

I just bought 2 tickets for the Darwin GP . Just the $150 3 day deal - though, might pay up for a more   'glitzy' set up, if  / when they become available. 'She Who Must Be Obeyed', will want AC / Comfort in Darwin, I fear, though, she's had a good time in Indo /  Europe for GPs, which I never expected would happen. 

It's a bit doubtful I'll actually go - have to work OS , usually, that time of year, so will probably end up giving  the tickets away. But, I feel the Need to support the event, even If I might not actually get there. I should be able to get to Indo GPs though - about the same cost / cheaper than  getting to Darwin, and, I can do some work there / near there as well. 'SWMBO', loves Indo as well. 

Thinking of going to Ironman MXdN, but, work interferes with  it too. Trying to trade US work time in Feb / March, for Oct /  Nov, but, it's not looking likely. 

 

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