Jett VS. Jorge

2025 US motocross can't come soon enough.

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9/29/2024 9:52am
Dirt_Dawg wrote:

2025 US motocross can't come soon enough.

It took a year or so for Vialle to learn the tracks and everything else, give Prado a year to learn the tracks and everything else.

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Prado will be lucky to be on the podium.Jett is on another level.

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9/29/2024 10:00am

Prado is amazing, but I think Jett is still on another level. Wouldn't be surprised if he finishes 2nd in 2025 nationals though

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9/29/2024 10:02am

Let's hope he survives SX. 17 rounds is no joke.
And hopefully he gels with the bike. First time in his life on a different bike than KTM or GG. Can go either way

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9/29/2024 10:04am
Bonanza69 wrote:

Prado will be lucky to be on the podium.Jett is on another level.

Yeah he'll be lucky to beat Plessinger who finished 3rd this season. 
Wait, what?

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9/29/2024 10:26am Edited Date/Time 9/29/2024 10:29am

Other than money, why is he leaving the Austrians?

 

Outdoors, he's used to racing on much uglier tracks.

 

He holeshots 75% of the time, and is as smooth as it gets.

 

He'll give Jett and Chase a run for the money outdoors.

 

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9/29/2024 10:40am

Didn’t Jorge beat Jett in one of the motos at last year’s Nations? 

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9/29/2024 10:45am
crusty_xx wrote:
Let's hope he survives SX. 17 rounds is no joke.And hopefully he gels with the bike. First time in his life on a different bike than...

Let's hope he survives SX. 17 rounds is no joke.
And hopefully he gels with the bike. First time in his life on a different bike than KTM or GG. Can go either way

Yep, that Kawi might feel like a tank compared to his GG. Not sure why he chose it ($ obviously)? Should’ve stayed with the GG.

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9/29/2024 10:48am

Echoing the comments about him "surviving" sx. What's a realistic ceiling for him in sx this year, 8th-10th? It will be tough for a GP champion who's used to winning. He was solid in the races he did this year. Hopefully he shows that patience all season. 

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9/29/2024 10:53am
Dirt_Dawg wrote:

2025 US motocross can't come soon enough.

It took a year or so for Vialle to learn the tracks and everything else, give Prado a year to learn the tracks and everything else.

Prado is of a completely different caliber than Vialle.
Pauls Jonas was also an MX2 world champion but absolutely could not compete with Prado in MX2.

I foresee difficulties in getting used to the new team, especially with the setup of the bike, it is different in the US. and the heat and high humidity in the outdoors can be a pain in the ass for Prado.

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9/29/2024 11:01am
Dirt_Dawg wrote:

2025 US motocross can't come soon enough.

It took a year or so for Vialle to learn the tracks and everything else, give Prado a year to learn the tracks and everything else.

alex69 wrote:
Prado is of a completely different caliber than Vialle.Pauls Jonas was also an MX2 world champion but absolutely could not compete with Prado in MX2. I...

Prado is of a completely different caliber than Vialle.
Pauls Jonas was also an MX2 world champion but absolutely could not compete with Prado in MX2.

I foresee difficulties in getting used to the new team, especially with the setup of the bike, it is different in the US. and the heat and high humidity in the outdoors can be a pain in the ass for Prado.

Yeah, I hope he can still get his great starts in our series and challenge jett, question is, how long does it take for him to get to jett's level.

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9/29/2024 11:02am

Prado reminds me of Vialle. Both super smooth.

Problem is, Vialle has had to step up his intensity for racing in the US and it has taken away some of that smoothness. Racing against Deegs will do that I suppose

I can see Prado having the same problem as Tom in stepping up the intensity and getting out of his comfort zone early in the races on the American style tracks.

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9/29/2024 11:12am

It took a year or so for Vialle to learn the tracks and everything else, give Prado a year to learn the tracks and everything else.

alex69 wrote:
Prado is of a completely different caliber than Vialle.Pauls Jonas was also an MX2 world champion but absolutely could not compete with Prado in MX2. I...

Prado is of a completely different caliber than Vialle.
Pauls Jonas was also an MX2 world champion but absolutely could not compete with Prado in MX2.

I foresee difficulties in getting used to the new team, especially with the setup of the bike, it is different in the US. and the heat and high humidity in the outdoors can be a pain in the ass for Prado.

Yeah, I hope he can still get his great starts in our series and challenge jett, question is, how long does it take for him to...

Yeah, I hope he can still get his great starts in our series and challenge jett, question is, how long does it take for him to get to jett's level.

I tend to agree with your original comment. It takes GP guys some time to adapt to the Nationals. They get way more time to learn the track in the World Championships. I don't see him being totally out of sorts. But challenging Jett his first go at it? 

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9/29/2024 11:45am

Gonna be ugly for Prado I feel. First he has to stay healthy and then even then he has to race someone like him only better. 

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I’m a fan of both and love the added talent in the states. 

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Prado reminds me of Vialle. Both super smooth.Problem is, Vialle has had to step up his intensity for racing in the US and it has taken...

Prado reminds me of Vialle. Both super smooth.

Problem is, Vialle has had to step up his intensity for racing in the US and it has taken away some of that smoothness. Racing against Deegs will do that I suppose

I can see Prado having the same problem as Tom in stepping up the intensity and getting out of his comfort zone early in the races on the American style tracks.

Like Herlings did at Iron man😝😝

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9/29/2024 12:07pm

Didn’t Jorge beat Jett in one of the motos at last year’s Nations? 

On a race that Jorge Holeshoted and Jett was last at the end of lap 1. Race 2 they started together, Jett gapped him, turning a couple 1.49 versus 1.51 a lap for Jorge. Speedwise, I'll take Jett over Jorge. Buuut, the starts and the way Prado can get away by doing a perfect race without mistake could beat Jett... on a track each of them don't know. A lot of unexperience on the tracks and schedule of the day would help Jett against Jorge, and let's be honest, even without that advantage Jett is already one of the toughest guys ever to finish in front of...

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9/29/2024 12:23pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2024 12:27pm

While I might put Jett a hair ahead of Prado in outdoors(jmho) I put Prado ahead at starts.  I think Prado is literally the best holeshoter in the world.  That negates my first sentence….mostly.   Once Prado learns the tracks/AMA it is basically even in my mind.  Chase will be in there…if he can figure out starts.  I think we have years of the most epic MX battles ever.  SX…maybe not as much.

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9/29/2024 12:23pm

What's the ballpark salary Kawi is forking out for Prado?

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9/29/2024 12:33pm

Prado top 15 in SX, top 5 outdoors a few moto wins, maybe an overall. He can't beat Jett, not yet anyway.

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Prado reminds me of Vialle. Both super smooth.Problem is, Vialle has had to step up his intensity for racing in the US and it has taken...

Prado reminds me of Vialle. Both super smooth.

Problem is, Vialle has had to step up his intensity for racing in the US and it has taken away some of that smoothness. Racing against Deegs will do that I suppose

I can see Prado having the same problem as Tom in stepping up the intensity and getting out of his comfort zone early in the races on the American style tracks.

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Like Herlings did at Iron man😝😝

You think current Prado is comparable to '17 Herlings? Prime Herlings is a different animal. I hope I'm wrong and Prado hits the ground running. There's also that for the first time in his career he won't be honing his mx skills year round. After the MXdN he's full bore sx mode. It's just a different element he's never had to deal with

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9/29/2024 12:43pm
Shaned9326 wrote:

Like Herlings did at Iron man😝😝

Coming in for the last race is way different then the entire series. Plus he will be coming off of focusing on SX. 

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9/29/2024 12:46pm
crusty_xx wrote:
Let's hope he survives SX. 17 rounds is no joke.And hopefully he gels with the bike. First time in his life on a different bike than...

Let's hope he survives SX. 17 rounds is no joke.
And hopefully he gels with the bike. First time in his life on a different bike than KTM or GG. Can go either way

burn1986 wrote:

Yep, that Kawi might feel like a tank compared to his GG. Not sure why he chose it ($ obviously)? Should’ve stayed with the GG.

There is no more GG

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9/29/2024 12:57pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2024 1:01pm

Didn’t Jorge beat Jett in one of the motos at last year’s Nations? 

On a race that Jorge Holeshoted and Jett was last at the end of lap 1. Race 2 they started together, Jett gapped him, turning a...

On a race that Jorge Holeshoted and Jett was last at the end of lap 1. Race 2 they started together, Jett gapped him, turning a couple 1.49 versus 1.51 a lap for Jorge. Speedwise, I'll take Jett over Jorge. Buuut, the starts and the way Prado can get away by doing a perfect race without mistake could beat Jett... on a track each of them don't know. A lot of unexperience on the tracks and schedule of the day would help Jett against Jorge, and let's be honest, even without that advantage Jett is already one of the toughest guys ever to finish in front of...

I don`t remember the Qualifying race, but Jorge won over Jett there also. So Jorge was better in 2 of 3 races that weekend. Maybe the only weekend I saw Jett "struggle" that year, after coming from a perfect season in AMA (22-0).

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9/29/2024 12:59pm
Spoonguy wrote:

Prado top 15 in SX, top 5 outdoors a few moto wins, maybe an overall. He can't beat Jett, not yet anyway.

He was top 10th in points already after 4 rounds with a fully stacked field with 2-3 weeks of riding SX for the first time in like 8 years. With 2 months of preperation I don't think he will be worse than that overall if he makes it healthy through the SX season, which should be the first goal probably.

New schedule, specially 17 rounds from the get go, new country (continent), but the biggest change will be the new bike I think. He rode an austrian brand since he turned pro and the bike was pretty much tailored to him in the GPs.

For me it's impossible to predict where he will stack up but I think 5-10th in SX and 2-5 in MX sounds reasonable if he stays healthy. I say he needs a year until he fights Jett outdoors, but I wouldn't be surprised if he wins MX motos from the beginning with his holeshot skills.

Prado going to the US is one of the most exciting things that has happened to us fans, no doubt about that. 

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Didn’t Jorge beat Jett in one of the motos at last year’s Nations? 

On a race that Jorge Holeshoted and Jett was last at the end of lap 1. Race 2 they started together, Jett gapped him, turning a...

On a race that Jorge Holeshoted and Jett was last at the end of lap 1. Race 2 they started together, Jett gapped him, turning a couple 1.49 versus 1.51 a lap for Jorge. Speedwise, I'll take Jett over Jorge. Buuut, the starts and the way Prado can get away by doing a perfect race without mistake could beat Jett... on a track each of them don't know. A lot of unexperience on the tracks and schedule of the day would help Jett against Jorge, and let's be honest, even without that advantage Jett is already one of the toughest guys ever to finish in front of...

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I don`t remember the Qualifying race, but Jorge won over Jett there also. So Jorge was better in 2 of 3 races that weekend. Maybe the...

I don`t remember the Qualifying race, but Jorge won over Jett there also. So Jorge was better in 2 of 3 races that weekend. Maybe the only weekend I saw Jett "struggle" that year, after coming from a perfect season in AMA (22-0).

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From last to 6th in the first moto was absolutely insane though, and moto two he clearly showed that he is pretty much unbeatable with a decent start. Getting a bad start against Prado is way different though than against any other rider in the AMA.

Also imagine beeing Sexton, now you gotta deal with a starter like Prado on top of the Hunter brothers.

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9/29/2024 1:15pm Edited Date/Time 9/29/2024 1:16pm
Bonanza69 wrote:

Prado will be lucky to be on the podium.Jett is on another level.

crusty_xx wrote:

Yeah he'll be lucky to beat Plessinger who finished 3rd this season. 
Wait, what?

To be fair, I don’t think it’s a lock he’s a podium guy every weekend. He’s going against Jett, Hunter, Chase and Eli on home soil after 17 rounds of SX.  Not that he can’t finish on the podium but it’s not going to be easy year one. 

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I love the fact that he’s coming over here to give it a shot. He could easily stay where he’s comfortable but he’s not. You gotta respect that. I think he just needs to stay as healthy as he can and consider the first season a learning year here. Pumped we got another awesome rider in the mix! 

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Mick 22 wrote:
Other than money, why is he leaving the Austrians? Outdoors, he's used to racing on much uglier tracks. He holeshots 75% of the time, and is as smooth...

Other than money, why is he leaving the Austrians?

 

Outdoors, he's used to racing on much uglier tracks.

 

He holeshots 75% of the time, and is as smooth as it gets.

 

He'll give Jett and Chase a run for the money outdoors.

 

Smoke another one. Year one he will be behind Jett, Hunter, Tomac, and Chase in almost every race.


I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t win a single moto.


Year 2 will be different but still behind Jett and Chase. 

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