TOMAC IS IN

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9/23/2024 8:27pm
dv12.com wrote:
Seriously, big props to Hymas (I know he's not going anymore), Coop and Eli to answer the call positively and go to England. There isn't much...

Seriously, big props to Hymas (I know he's not going anymore), Coop and Eli to answer the call positively and go to England. There isn't much upside for the guys going other than winning. Huge expectations, most likely difficult conditions in October in England, no money, postpones their vacation/time off & delays SX testing. So, yes, props to them!

I know the feeling... The first time we won MXDN for France in 01 in Namur, I got a call last minute to replace someone (I forgot who) right after 9/11. I said yes before knowing I could even jump on a flight to Europe and knowing what kind of bike I'd have. Yamaha US understandably didn't let my mechanic fly to the race. I flew with my girlfriend (who would become my wife and ex wife later), parts in checked bags and flew to France. I hired one of the mechanics I had when I raced GPs in 1999 (out of my pocket), my dad drove my concept hauler I used in GPs (I still had it and paid the expenses) and we went racing. The US riders weren't there though and we end up winning. The French Federation winning bonus was $1500. Yes, fifteen hundred dollars. When I found out (after the race), I was like "are they serious?". I took the money and gave it away to the 2001 60cc French championship Top 10. Each kid got $150. It was such a journey to get there, cost me a bunch of money to go racing and I don't even get invited to MXDN when it's in France. The French Federation didn't even allow me to be with Dylan at MXDN 2018 in Red Bud when I worked with him. People forget very easily what we've done for them...

Props for reaching into your own pockets to make it happen…. I’m sure you don’t regret it all these years later, mxon wins are hard to come by, maybe a different story had you not won?

Massive respect for Eli stepping in last minute, although I’m not surprised, this man is a living legend. You boys in the USA are lucky to have him - will be rooting for the US to bring home the gold. Shame deegs didn’t sack up and get on board earlier but I’m sure coop will rise to the occasion; he was a beast on that star 250F outdoors, no reason he can’t do it again. 

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9/23/2024 8:42pm

Great to hear. Bummed for Chase because I wanted to see him at the MXoN, but huge props to Tomac for stepping up last minute. 

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9/23/2024 8:47pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2024 10:10pm
prozach wrote:

Not as good as a healthy sexton, but better than anyone else and keeps winning hopes alive!  

 Eli’s on form now and a way better starter than Chase. I think their speed is a wash but those starts Eli can get will be critical as we can let Webb take the 1st pick and still have Eli rip a hole shot from the middle of the gate. I have this giving us a .69% better chance of winning now. 

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9/23/2024 9:02pm
burn1986 wrote:

Eli to John, “Alright dad, prep the track again. No more 1h40m, we’re going 2.0!”

Duuude I heard Will say 2.5 this weekend! 

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9/23/2024 9:48pm

Now that Star is quite committed, if only Deegan would suck it up at least for the sake of his fans.

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9/23/2024 10:44pm

Now that Star is quite committed, if only Deegan would suck it up at least for the sake of his fans.

Do you not realize there will be more opportunities for him to go?

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9/23/2024 11:16pm Edited Date/Time 9/23/2024 11:16pm

Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a healthy Tomac at this point. Tomac only gets selected because of an injury of a rider who is better than him and got chosen over him.

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9/23/2024 11:17pm
FastEddy wrote:
Great read.2005  in Ernee You,Tortelli and Pichon did very well. That was a pretty wild MXoN with lots of crashes ect...  You beat Windham (he almost crashed...

Great read.

2005  in Ernee You,Tortelli and Pichon did very well. 
That was a pretty wild MXoN with lots of crashes ect...  You beat Windham (he almost crashed in front of you) I think you got 2nd behind Townley in MX2/MX3 moto.  I think You guys got 2nd OA for the event.

dv12.com wrote:
For me, other than Bercy SX, Ernée 05 was the craziest/best racing memory... I think I went 2-7. First moto, Kdub crashed. I got smoked by...

For me, other than Bercy SX, Ernée 05 was the craziest/best racing memory... I think I went 2-7. First moto, Kdub crashed. I got smoked by Townley! haha. He was amazing that day on a not so good 450 KTM... I was the 3rd guy in MX3 behind KW & BT that day

Ernée 05 was also a challenge for me. That race was 5 days before the end of my factory Yamaha contract before my Bookoo Honda deal. I was already riding SX in TX on a CR250 which Yamaha allowed me to do but Jim Perry, the Yamaha team manager then, didn't want to ship a bike or parts. He let my mechanic, Gothic Jay, come but we could only bring parts that we could carry in checked bags. So we only brought suspensions, clamps and bars. I used a stock 2005 YZF450 from the then Casola team with only a Doma pipe on it. Needless to say, we weren't competitive power wise. We might've brought a carb too actually. 

Race was so fun and it was great to have France finish 2nd and be on the podium celebration. The crowd was absolutely insane! They had to shut the pits down on Sunday cause it was such a nightmare on Saturday. 

Post race was great too. We ate at the Alpinestars hospitality and then everyone started having Limoncello shots, US riders, italians, french, industry guys. It was so fun. I just did a couple, I had to drive to Paris to catch our flight the next morning. We left around 11-midnight. I drove so fast to Paris to get our room and get a few hours of sleep. I got flashed by speed radars so many times on the 200-mile drive but got our room and caught our flight. There's no way some of the other guys made their flights!!!

These stories are freakin' great!!  Thanks man! 

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9/23/2024 11:35pm
gerg wrote:

I would not underestimate this team.

This is an A team, no under estermating, finishing somewhere on the podium is expected. 

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9/23/2024 11:58pm

LET'S GO ELI - TEAM USA!!!

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I would like to have seen Eli on the 250. Not sure they could bring enough engines over there to keep it running 

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I’m thinking there’s a lot of grit in this team and they’re going in as the underdog. Watch this space. They’re podium!

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9/24/2024 5:20am

good man 👍

as a euro, i am a bigger fan of tomac than sexton, i like sexton, but tomac is more a legend , so i cant wait to see him line up against hearlings and jet, this is what we have been waiting for 

hope #84 dont have an unlucky off and can keep himself straight, he 

 only has 1 more gp left 🙏

 

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9/24/2024 6:45am

Please be dry please be dry please be dry. 

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FastEddy wrote:
Great read.2005  in Ernee You,Tortelli and Pichon did very well. That was a pretty wild MXoN with lots of crashes ect...  You beat Windham (he almost crashed...

Great read.

2005  in Ernee You,Tortelli and Pichon did very well. 
That was a pretty wild MXoN with lots of crashes ect...  You beat Windham (he almost crashed in front of you) I think you got 2nd behind Townley in MX2/MX3 moto.  I think You guys got 2nd OA for the event.

dv12.com wrote:
For me, other than Bercy SX, Ernée 05 was the craziest/best racing memory... I think I went 2-7. First moto, Kdub crashed. I got smoked by...

For me, other than Bercy SX, Ernée 05 was the craziest/best racing memory... I think I went 2-7. First moto, Kdub crashed. I got smoked by Townley! haha. He was amazing that day on a not so good 450 KTM... I was the 3rd guy in MX3 behind KW & BT that day

Ernée 05 was also a challenge for me. That race was 5 days before the end of my factory Yamaha contract before my Bookoo Honda deal. I was already riding SX in TX on a CR250 which Yamaha allowed me to do but Jim Perry, the Yamaha team manager then, didn't want to ship a bike or parts. He let my mechanic, Gothic Jay, come but we could only bring parts that we could carry in checked bags. So we only brought suspensions, clamps and bars. I used a stock 2005 YZF450 from the then Casola team with only a Doma pipe on it. Needless to say, we weren't competitive power wise. We might've brought a carb too actually. 

Race was so fun and it was great to have France finish 2nd and be on the podium celebration. The crowd was absolutely insane! They had to shut the pits down on Sunday cause it was such a nightmare on Saturday. 

Post race was great too. We ate at the Alpinestars hospitality and then everyone started having Limoncello shots, US riders, italians, french, industry guys. It was so fun. I just did a couple, I had to drive to Paris to catch our flight the next morning. We left around 11-midnight. I drove so fast to Paris to get our room and get a few hours of sleep. I got flashed by speed radars so many times on the 200-mile drive but got our room and caught our flight. There's no way some of the other guys made their flights!!!

jeffro503 wrote:

These stories are freakin' great!!  Thanks man! 

I bet he has a party story or two in his pocket..  (trying to keep the DV stories going while we have his attention) 😁

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Shaft721 wrote:

Please be dry please be dry please be dry. 

If it had of been scheduled for last weekend it would have been cancelled, it was like a monsoon in England all weekend.

At this point the forecast for the Sunday looks promising with less than a 40% chance of rain.

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9/24/2024 7:41am
DeStouwer wrote:
Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a...

Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a healthy Tomac at this point. Tomac only gets selected because of an injury of a rider who is better than him and got chosen over him.

How long did it take for you to come up with this dumb statement? Where are you getting this is to be an upgrade? It was never between Tomac and Chase to begin with. It was AP and Tomac, but the nice guy that Tomac is, he let AP have the spot and right fully so. Now the opportunity is there for him and he took it. 

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9/24/2024 8:27am

This team is as AMERICAN as it could possibly fucking get!

I'm sooo stoked for this race!! 😎

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9/24/2024 8:30am Edited Date/Time 9/24/2024 8:32am
DeStouwer wrote:
Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a...

Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a healthy Tomac at this point. Tomac only gets selected because of an injury of a rider who is better than him and got chosen over him.

Magic Man wrote:
How long did it take for you to come up with this dumb statement? Where are you getting this is to be an upgrade? It was...

How long did it take for you to come up with this dumb statement? Where are you getting this is to be an upgrade? It was never between Tomac and Chase to begin with. It was AP and Tomac, but the nice guy that Tomac is, he let AP have the spot and right fully so. Now the opportunity is there for him and he took it. 

Whoa, dude. It's an opinion, not a statement. Just my 2 cents. And as of yet, it IS between Sexton and Tomac, as one fills in for the other. No diss towards Tomac, just a fact that Sexton was the better rider the past weeks/months.

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Shaft721 wrote:

Please be dry please be dry please be dry. 

I don’t think we’re at a disadvantage in the rain, both AP and Cooper have done woods racing and Eli has beast mode! 

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9/24/2024 8:49am

I'm gonna have to find a new conspiracy theory now that Star is supporting MXdN. 

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9/24/2024 9:01am

There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... 

Jett Lawrence 
Hunter Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 
Maxime Renaux
Ken Roczen 
Jeremy Seewer 
Lucas Coenen 
Aaron Plessinger 
Jago Geerts
Glenn Coldenhoff 
Ruben Fernandez
Conrad Mewse
Mattia Guadagnini 
Andrea Bonacorsi 
Dylan Wright
Kevin Horgmo
Maximilian Nagl
Valentin Guillod
Jan Pancar 
Tommy Searle
Harri Kullas
Isak Gifting
Cornelius Toendel

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DeStouwer wrote:
Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a...

Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a healthy Tomac at this point. Tomac only gets selected because of an injury of a rider who is better than him and got chosen over him.

Did you watch the 2nd moto at Ironman? ET3 kept pace with Sexton and AP for 2/3rd of the race and was around 3 seconds back the entire time until he apparently got winded. ET3 pretty much smoked Sexton 4 out of 5 SMX playoff moto's.

They are both super knarly riders and on any Sunday could potentially vie for FMOP.

 

Not trying to disrespect Sexton because he just won the championship - all I'm saying is Tomac is back and only going to get stronger

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There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... Jett Lawrence Hunter Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey...

There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... 

Jett Lawrence 
Hunter Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 
Maxime Renaux
Ken Roczen 
Jeremy Seewer 
Lucas Coenen 
Aaron Plessinger 
Jago Geerts
Glenn Coldenhoff 
Ruben Fernandez
Conrad Mewse
Mattia Guadagnini 
Andrea Bonacorsi 
Dylan Wright
Kevin Horgmo
Maximilian Nagl
Valentin Guillod
Jan Pancar 
Tommy Searle
Harri Kullas
Isak Gifting
Cornelius Toendel

Jett Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 

 

We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. 

Normally its 3.

I think it goes in this order.

1: Jett (kids too perfect)

2: Tomac (close to Jett but not enough)

3: Herlings (right behind Tomac) (top 3 within 5 seconds)

4: Prado (can't stay with the top 3)

5: Gajser (him and Prado battle for 4th)

6: Romain (a notch off Prado and Gajser 15 seconds back) 

Whos all running in Open? 

Hunter

AP

Coldenhoff

Who else? 

 

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There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... Jett Lawrence Hunter Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey...

There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... 

Jett Lawrence 
Hunter Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 
Maxime Renaux
Ken Roczen 
Jeremy Seewer 
Lucas Coenen 
Aaron Plessinger 
Jago Geerts
Glenn Coldenhoff 
Ruben Fernandez
Conrad Mewse
Mattia Guadagnini 
Andrea Bonacorsi 
Dylan Wright
Kevin Horgmo
Maximilian Nagl
Valentin Guillod
Jan Pancar 
Tommy Searle
Harri Kullas
Isak Gifting
Cornelius Toendel

Shaft721 wrote:
Jett Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey Herlings  We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. Normally...

Jett Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 

 

We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. 

Normally its 3.

I think it goes in this order.

1: Jett (kids too perfect)

2: Tomac (close to Jett but not enough)

3: Herlings (right behind Tomac) (top 3 within 5 seconds)

4: Prado (can't stay with the top 3)

5: Gajser (him and Prado battle for 4th)

6: Romain (a notch off Prado and Gajser 15 seconds back) 

Whos all running in Open? 

Hunter

AP

Coldenhoff

Who else? 

 

What is your basis for saying that Prado and Gajser ‘can’t stay with the Top 3’? 

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There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... Jett Lawrence Hunter Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey...

There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... 

Jett Lawrence 
Hunter Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 
Maxime Renaux
Ken Roczen 
Jeremy Seewer 
Lucas Coenen 
Aaron Plessinger 
Jago Geerts
Glenn Coldenhoff 
Ruben Fernandez
Conrad Mewse
Mattia Guadagnini 
Andrea Bonacorsi 
Dylan Wright
Kevin Horgmo
Maximilian Nagl
Valentin Guillod
Jan Pancar 
Tommy Searle
Harri Kullas
Isak Gifting
Cornelius Toendel

Shaft721 wrote:
Jett Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey Herlings  We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. Normally...

Jett Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 

 

We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. 

Normally its 3.

I think it goes in this order.

1: Jett (kids too perfect)

2: Tomac (close to Jett but not enough)

3: Herlings (right behind Tomac) (top 3 within 5 seconds)

4: Prado (can't stay with the top 3)

5: Gajser (him and Prado battle for 4th)

6: Romain (a notch off Prado and Gajser 15 seconds back) 

Whos all running in Open? 

Hunter

AP

Coldenhoff

Who else? 

 

Don't sleep on Kenny

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There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... Jett Lawrence Hunter Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey...

There is the exhaustive list of riders that would compete in the MXGP+OPEN at the end race eventually. Damn... 

Jett Lawrence 
Hunter Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 
Maxime Renaux
Ken Roczen 
Jeremy Seewer 
Lucas Coenen 
Aaron Plessinger 
Jago Geerts
Glenn Coldenhoff 
Ruben Fernandez
Conrad Mewse
Mattia Guadagnini 
Andrea Bonacorsi 
Dylan Wright
Kevin Horgmo
Maximilian Nagl
Valentin Guillod
Jan Pancar 
Tommy Searle
Harri Kullas
Isak Gifting
Cornelius Toendel

Shaft721 wrote:
Jett Lawrence Jorge Prado Garcia Tim Gajser Romain Febvre Eli Tomac Jeffrey Herlings  We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. Normally...

Jett Lawrence 
Jorge Prado Garcia 
Tim Gajser 
Romain Febvre 
Eli Tomac 
Jeffrey Herlings 

 

We have 6 guys that are a toss up to win this class, thats as competitive as it gets. 

Normally its 3.

I think it goes in this order.

1: Jett (kids too perfect)

2: Tomac (close to Jett but not enough)

3: Herlings (right behind Tomac) (top 3 within 5 seconds)

4: Prado (can't stay with the top 3)

5: Gajser (him and Prado battle for 4th)

6: Romain (a notch off Prado and Gajser 15 seconds back) 

Whos all running in Open? 

Hunter

AP

Coldenhoff

Who else? 

 

RG437 wrote:

What is your basis for saying that Prado and Gajser ‘can’t stay with the Top 3’? 

Has Gajser ever beaten Tomac in a moto?

I am a huge Gajser fan but...

Charlotte, not close

Glenn Helen, not close

WW Ranch, not close

Also its a prediction.....

 

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9/24/2024 2:24pm
DeStouwer wrote:
Whoa, dude. It's an opinion, not a statement. Just my 2 cents. And as of yet, it IS between Sexton and Tomac, as one fills in...

Whoa, dude. It's an opinion, not a statement. Just my 2 cents. And as of yet, it IS between Sexton and Tomac, as one fills in for the other. No diss towards Tomac, just a fact that Sexton was the better rider the past weeks/months.

Tomac was better than Chase in SMX

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DeStouwer wrote:
Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a...

Props to Tomac for stepping up, but I don't think this is an upgrade for Team USA at all. A healthy Sexton is better than a healthy Tomac at this point. Tomac only gets selected because of an injury of a rider who is better than him and got chosen over him.

Ozy wrote:
Did you watch the 2nd moto at Ironman? ET3 kept pace with Sexton and AP for 2/3rd of the race and was around 3 seconds back...

Did you watch the 2nd moto at Ironman? ET3 kept pace with Sexton and AP for 2/3rd of the race and was around 3 seconds back the entire time until he apparently got winded. ET3 pretty much smoked Sexton 4 out of 5 SMX playoff moto's.

They are both super knarly riders and on any Sunday could potentially vie for FMOP.

 

Not trying to disrespect Sexton because he just won the championship - all I'm saying is Tomac is back and only going to get stronger

I am sssuper psyched Tomac is going!  …but I’m not letting my emotions to cloud reality.   MXDN is basically an outdoor national.  SMX is basically SX.  I love Tomac….HUGE fan and I also live in Colorado.  But have people forgot the MX series.  Ended a month ago…..remember??  Sexton kicked ass.  Tomac did show some speed but come on.  Had Tomac done better in his first race back he would have taken it instead of AP …..but if Chase is healthy he is the number 1 guy…..Chase would have been a threat to go 1-1.

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