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People equate steep with more danger and that isn't the case at all. It makes the riders safer by controlling the speed. The suspension is so good these days and they put them on a track that is larger and more tame than Arenacross.
It does seem like the air time isn't what it was back in the RC/Reed/Stewart era
My vote would be for longer sand sections.
But if the 7 whoop section doesn't work, will we get the 8th whoop free?
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The tracks are too fast, the 450s are probably too fast/ big if they slow the tracks down.
Maybe try a one off smx, and see how an 80 / 90,s style track works out.
Also Anaheim in 06 I believe
Slanted start. Exact same distance from every gate to a point in the first turn. Currently fast guys getting the best gate isnt helping. Or draw for gates. More sand. No short sections unless wide sand. Full length rythym sections where there is more then one way to run it. On any split lanes they must be equally fast and perhaps the harder one to take a bit faster. Now that half the field is running on the same second it has become startercross/followcross. Without jeopardizing rider safety its a tall order.
DV said it himself they are not as steep as old SX. And his theory as to why so many big crashes like the Forkner one. it slows the racing jumping down, and if you case on steeper jumps it stops your momentum going forward. Where as now when they case it is nothing and they still drive forward into next jump, again like Forkner.
And I 100% agree with DV the old jumps they went allot higher but not as fast..
Until you have walked the track you really have no idea of what SX tracks are really like and how different they are.
About 6-10 years ago there was an over under where you went over and immediately did a 270 degree turn and went under. There was an inside line and an outside line. A lot of exciting passes happened there. I wish they would bring that back.
I’ve yet to see anything from Feld that indicates that they are running an actual sporting event.
They run Supercross like they run the circus and the furries on ice crap they also put on.
I mean from what I understand, they actually score the Monster Truck crap. It’s to the point that the winner of a Supercross is no more important than the guy who wins doing a backflip off of a crushed car.
To them, it’s all about the paycheck.
The day a real race outfit takes Supercross over will be the best day in the sports history.
i say we just run outdoors all year long. Break it into a Winter and Summer series.
Whoop sections into bowl turns. Having whoops leading into flat turns makes the section irrelevant especially when only having 9
I sat in the corner during practice and it was sand too. I went looking for the pictures and videos I took and found the wall pic.
Cant remember which round it was maybe Texas or Indianapolis
Didn’t they do something like that in 2002? DV passed RC on the last lap. San Diego or one of the Anaheim races?
Problem is it required a lot of dirt.
Awesome! I thought it might have been sand, but couldn't remember.
Showing more racing and less dead air time is great, as in when they have the Futures races. Would be cool to possibly add futures series on each coast where they get to race during the night show during every event.
I suggest they book venues with a roof.
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This is the answer I believe. Every track should not have 3 footers, 5 footers, on/offs, and the same damn triple every week. We need offset mogul sections, walls, uneven rhythms, some tracks with massive whoops, some with no whoops etc
Some good tracks in here:
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/What-was-the-best-Supercross-Track-layout,1387154
Whatever happened to having riders designing tracks, like Stew, Reedy and Kdub did in 08?
They settled for RC bringing the same design to Daytona a couple of years in a row.
Maybe that could be something for a guy like AC now, track design advicer
On the tv coverage why does every sport seems to actually commentate what’s happening on the track/field and in supercross they just ramble about shit the whole race… it just becomes a big chat fest over the top of the racing rather than commentating the racing and leaving the chat and backstories to before, after and between races.
Like imagine a horse race if the commentator talked about nutrition and rider weights and horse conditioning through the whole race and not commentated what’s happening on track.
I swear it used to be that but now it’s just a big chat fest through the every heat and main.
The only chance of commentating the on track action is near the end of the LCQs
You know, everyone goes on about the "sport changing (Bubba) Scrub" - and it Certainly was, I'm Not denigrating it.
But I've always thought someone, somehow working out a way to conquer Wall Jumps , as if they were not there, would be a real game changer.
How it would be done, buggered if I know, but when / if it ever happens, well, it would be something.
Absolutely, Less 'flow', less 'cookie cutter' might just be good to see.
Stewart figured that out in Daytona 2011
It’s bc they think the sport is boring.
Anyone who says we need to steepen the jumps needs to stand in between the current up and down ramps before they make that call, they are much gnarlier in person than tv or even row 7 in the stands will show.
That’s without considering the ruts.
Re "Stutters".
For all of you that want to reduce the flow in the track, how do you think that the racing will improve with a track that flows like shit?.
there are a few things that needs to be changed (real whoops 180 degree bowl turns).
No need for the shitty 90’s jumps where the riders were sent to outher space each time they jumped.
Sand, Whoops and real turns create good racing.
I think he's meaning something more like this.
I don’t recall people on here doing either of those things
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