How did Hunter not get black flagged?

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Just watching the race now. 
 

How the F does Hunter get to pull that while being a lap down and not get black flagged? 

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5/12/2024 9:29am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2024 10:29am

Because AMA gunna AMA. If they want to stay true to their roots and go full AMA, somehow Ando will end up with a fine.
 

Are the officials just being more cautious or is this one of those fun gray areas that our swiss cheese of a rulebook has? Obviously Hunter was wrong here Im just trying to make sense of AMA’s decision making which is probably a mistake on my part 😂

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5/12/2024 9:34am

Its a fair question.  And I like Hunter.

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5/12/2024 9:35am

they black flagged Bogle a few years ago for taking retaliation a lap down. im seeing a bit of Lawrence favoritism 🤷‍♂️ 

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5/12/2024 9:39am
TKLEVEN wrote:

they black flagged Bogle a few years ago for taking retaliation a lap down. im seeing a bit of Lawrence favoritism 🤷‍♂️ 

My guess is that they just missed it. It's the AMA we're talking about here, mistakes are bound to happen.

 

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5/12/2024 9:43am

Well he didnt "hit" him or took him out he was just being in the way, so not the same as boogle, should get punished though

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5/12/2024 9:44am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2024 9:45am

Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At least that is what the AMA said they were going to do. Until last night 😂
 

Really wish the ama would adopt a similar stance like F1. Notice the issue and state it is under review. Take your time and do the proper thing. Now on things like last night? Black flag him if that is the rule. But they need to be consistent and the only thing the AMA is good at is being consistently inconsistent. 

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5/12/2024 9:45am

😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter.

Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit

But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual 

Anderson dishes,Hunter answers...you want hunter black flagged.

Move was fucking brilliant...stayed up,stopped Anderson,kept it moving.

Go pour yourself a glass of milk.

 

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Who ever the principal is, It's his office they were going to

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Personally I wish they would let the riders deal out the justice like in years past. They generally don’t go for a kill shot. Unless you’re Alessi. I’m cool with bar banging 

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5/12/2024 9:48am
OuTBoReD wrote:
😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter. Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual  Anderson...

😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter.

Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit

But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual 

Anderson dishes,Hunter answers...you want hunter black flagged.

Move was fucking brilliant...stayed up,stopped Anderson,kept it moving.

Go pour yourself a glass of milk.

 

Jesus, try a decaf. If you think that was brilliant then who’s jock sniffing who here.  

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5/12/2024 9:48am
OuTBoReD wrote:
😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter. Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual  Anderson...

😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter.

Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit

But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual 

Anderson dishes,Hunter answers...you want hunter black flagged.

Move was fucking brilliant...stayed up,stopped Anderson,kept it moving.

Go pour yourself a glass of milk.

 

Hunter answered a lap down......If he caught him and passed him for position that would be perfect.....but waiting on someone like that is garbage.  

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5/12/2024 9:48am
Zycki11 wrote:
Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At...

Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At least that is what the AMA said they were going to do. Until last night 😂
 

Really wish the ama would adopt a similar stance like F1. Notice the issue and state it is under review. Take your time and do the proper thing. Now on things like last night? Black flag him if that is the rule. But they need to be consistent and the only thing the AMA is good at is being consistently inconsistent. 

An “under review” scenario absolutely should be a thing. Pelletier has been hopping on the broadcast occasionally to clarify rules and delays etc., he could easily be tossed in and say something like; “we are aware of the incident and it’s under review” 

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5/12/2024 9:53am
Zycki11 wrote:
Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At...

Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At least that is what the AMA said they were going to do. Until last night 😂
 

Really wish the ama would adopt a similar stance like F1. Notice the issue and state it is under review. Take your time and do the proper thing. Now on things like last night? Black flag him if that is the rule. But they need to be consistent and the only thing the AMA is good at is being consistently inconsistent. 

An “under review” scenario absolutely should be a thing. Pelletier has been hopping on the broadcast occasionally to clarify rules and delays etc., he could easily...

An “under review” scenario absolutely should be a thing. Pelletier has been hopping on the broadcast occasionally to clarify rules and delays etc., he could easily be tossed in and say something like; “we are aware of the incident and it’s under review” 

It is so simple. Just slip it in the broadcast stating “the ama is aware of the incident between races 96 and 21, it is under review” This gives them ample time to assess, plan, and formulate a proper penalty if needed or label it as “no further infestation necessary” etc. not hard 

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5/12/2024 9:54am
OuTBoReD wrote:
😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter. Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual  Anderson...

😂 Good ole' soft cock lungbutter.

Had the roles been reversed you wouldn't say shit

But here you are gargling Anderson's dick as per usual 

Anderson dishes,Hunter answers...you want hunter black flagged.

Move was fucking brilliant...stayed up,stopped Anderson,kept it moving.

Go pour yourself a glass of milk.

 

You'd be crying like a little bitch if Hunter put that move on you

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5/12/2024 9:58am
Zycki11 wrote:
Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At...

Retaliation apparently is always a black flag now thanks to Reedy giving the old Aussie elbow to a certain Honda rider who landed on him. At least that is what the AMA said they were going to do. Until last night 😂
 

Really wish the ama would adopt a similar stance like F1. Notice the issue and state it is under review. Take your time and do the proper thing. Now on things like last night? Black flag him if that is the rule. But they need to be consistent and the only thing the AMA is good at is being consistently inconsistent. 

An “under review” scenario absolutely should be a thing. Pelletier has been hopping on the broadcast occasionally to clarify rules and delays etc., he could easily...

An “under review” scenario absolutely should be a thing. Pelletier has been hopping on the broadcast occasionally to clarify rules and delays etc., he could easily be tossed in and say something like; “we are aware of the incident and it’s under review” 

Zycki11 wrote:
It is so simple. Just slip it in the broadcast stating “the ama is aware of the incident between races 96 and 21, it is under...

It is so simple. Just slip it in the broadcast stating “the ama is aware of the incident between races 96 and 21, it is under review” This gives them ample time to assess, plan, and formulate a proper penalty if needed or label it as “no further infestation necessary” etc. not hard 

Also gives broadcasting crew another talking point after the fact and they can give their opinions on the call of AMA instead of offering opinions based off just speculation. 

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5/12/2024 10:09am

There's probably a few reasons and none of them are because of his last name. Ando is on probation and has a history of aggressive riding, Hunter doesn't. Hunter didn't even remotely screw his race up as bad as Anderson did to him. It'd be hard to justify a case of "retaliation" when he just gave him a little brake check as he was being lapped, retaliation would have been waiting on him and taking him out. Whether you like the move or not you can't say he didn't deserve it. 

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Ama never ceases to disappoint and then they ask for your membership $$

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5/12/2024 10:14am
TKLEVEN wrote:

they black flagged Bogle a few years ago for taking retaliation a lap down. im seeing a bit of Lawrence favoritism 🤷‍♂️ 

False, he received his penalty a day or two later, no black flag

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5/12/2024 10:32am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2024 10:33am

He threw some shrimp on the bar bee...

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Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I don’t see why anyone should be disqualified. I’d like to say Hunter will get him back in the Nationals but Anderson will be nowhere near a podium spot so Hunters only opportunity will be when he’s lapping him 

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There's probably a few reasons and none of them are because of his last name. Ando is on probation and has a history of aggressive riding...

There's probably a few reasons and none of them are because of his last name. Ando is on probation and has a history of aggressive riding, Hunter doesn't. Hunter didn't even remotely screw his race up as bad as Anderson did to him. It'd be hard to justify a case of "retaliation" when he just gave him a little brake check as he was being lapped, retaliation would have been waiting on him and taking him out. Whether you like the move or not you can't say he didn't deserve it. 

Hunter isn’t aggressive but he also doesn’t lay over. Gotta respect it. 

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KennyT wrote:
Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I...

Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I don’t see why anyone should be disqualified. I’d like to say Hunter will get him back in the Nationals but Anderson will be nowhere near a podium spot so Hunters only opportunity will be when he’s lapping him 

Why does everyone think Ando is lost outdoors?  He a podium threat every summer if he's healthy. He won Hangtown in '22

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5/12/2024 10:57am

If he plows Ando while passing him at Pala, that’s payback.   Waiting around to mess with a faster rider while he’s lapping you is a bitch move.  I hope Ando teaches him that lesson at some point in the future.  

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If he plows Ando while passing him at Pala, that’s payback.   Waiting around to mess with a faster rider while he’s lapping you is a...

If he plows Ando while passing him at Pala, that’s payback.   Waiting around to mess with a faster rider while he’s lapping you is a bitch move.  I hope Ando teaches him that lesson at some point in the future.  

Faster is debatable they were back and forth. 

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KennyT wrote:
Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I...

Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I don’t see why anyone should be disqualified. I’d like to say Hunter will get him back in the Nationals but Anderson will be nowhere near a podium spot so Hunters only opportunity will be when he’s lapping him 

Why does everyone think Ando is lost outdoors?  He a podium threat every summer if he's healthy. He won Hangtown in '22

That is I believe his only outdoor overall.

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5/12/2024 11:06am Edited Date/Time 5/12/2024 11:29am

His last name is Lawrence.  That’s it.  The AMA does not treat riders equal, and fan or not…the Lawrence name will have pull for the next decade.  They may do $ fine once in a while to give the appearance of equal treatment, but never to much detriment to the Lawrence brothers.  They hate Jason so they treat him differently.  Had the roles been reversed I would have bet my house Jason would have been black flagged.  Period!

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KennyT wrote:
Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I...

Maybe the AMA looked at it as Ando knocked Hunter to the ground and cost him 18 postions,  Lawrence retaliated with a 1 position interference. I don’t see why anyone should be disqualified. I’d like to say Hunter will get him back in the Nationals but Anderson will be nowhere near a podium spot so Hunters only opportunity will be when he’s lapping him 

Why does everyone think Ando is lost outdoors?  He a podium threat every summer if he's healthy. He won Hangtown in '22

jjavaman wrote:

That is I believe his only outdoor overall.

I believe you're correct. I'm not saying he's a threat to Jett or Sexton. He'll be 30 seconds back from them. But I've seen several people act like a podium is out of the question.  He's got plenty of them

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