Ryan Hughes

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Toste wrote:
A lot of these "instructors" today seem hyperfocused (to a fault imo) on body positioning and riding style. I would be kind of pissed if I...

A lot of these "instructors" today seem hyperfocused (to a fault imo) on body positioning and riding style. I would be kind of pissed if I went to a school and all I got was "just mimic what Jett and Chase are doing". Yeah, no shit. Not only that, but not everyone has the right body type to ride the Jett/Chase way. My T-Rex arms wouldn't allow me to reach the bars if I tried to ride as far back as those guys. It's not hopeless for short guys (Wardy/RC/JMart etc.) but the cat definitely has to be skinned a different way than what's being taught as strict requirements right now.

Besides all of that, most amateur riders are slow because we take stupid lines, have our bike in the wrong part of the power too often, and/or have lousy physical conditioning. Riding form/style is usually the least of our problems.

One of the first things I was ever taught in private lessons was line selection and track use. It may sound simple but until you have someone who's got the experience and teaching you, you may not see it. I would account 50% of my abilities (in terms of lap times) to a lesson I got when i was about 13 about line selection.

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I found something very interesting and ironically it came from Gypsy who had the foundation trainer on as a guest. He worked with Reedy back in...

I found something very interesting and ironically it came from Gypsy who had the foundation trainer on as a guest.

He worked with Reedy back in the day and he really isn’t into moto. Gypsy mentioned Jett and showed him video of his style. The guy picked out one critical piece that really makes sense. He mentioned Jett’s neck and his straight it is because his back is so straight which we all knew. 

The next bit was what got me and had the aha moment. Jett uses his lats more than any other rider. When he hits a rutted face or bumps he does use his arms or shoulders to absorb it. Instead, he tightens his core which allows his arms to be free and he doesn’t punch between his shoulder blades(think face pulls on a rower). The trainer mentioned that Jett’s foundation is the best he has ever seen in an athlete and would give him superior balance. 

Just watched it on youtube. Very cool stuff. 

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4/6/2024 1:17am

Everts had perfect form on his Yinaldi factory 450 very similar to Jett, yet RC could turn up to his back yard, on a 250 2 stroke, get shite starts in the deep wet sand, and still catch, pass & drop him, riding the bike like he stole it looking nothing like Jett.

Go figure 

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Everts had perfect form on his Yinaldi factory 450 very similar to Jett, yet RC could turn up to his back yard, on a 250 2...

Everts had perfect form on his Yinaldi factory 450 very similar to Jett, yet RC could turn up to his back yard, on a 250 2 stroke, get shite starts in the deep wet sand, and still catch, pass & drop him, riding the bike like he stole it looking nothing like Jett.

Go figure 

Then a few years later when james came across the pond......

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Ryno's a kook, but sometimes has good points. 

MX Guy wrote:

Has he broken down what went wrong when his rider Austin Forkner ended his season? Just curious 

His dad broke it down for you in this thread....

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4/6/2024 8:43am Edited Date/Time 4/6/2024 8:44am
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Try riding with an eye closed!! Not too easy! He made it work for 4-5 laps, but needed 4-5 more to finish. I don’t think any...

Try riding with an eye closed!! Not too easy! He made it work for 4-5 laps, but needed 4-5 more to finish. I don’t think any amount of coaching can keep a contact in!!!

then teach him how to pull off the track

pops wrote:

He is not a quitter, and the team loves that!!!!

They would probably love for him to be on the track. He could have easily backed it down and finished top 3. 

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Toste wrote:
A lot of these "instructors" today seem hyperfocused (to a fault imo) on body positioning and riding style. I would be kind of pissed if I...

A lot of these "instructors" today seem hyperfocused (to a fault imo) on body positioning and riding style. I would be kind of pissed if I went to a school and all I got was "just mimic what Jett and Chase are doing". Yeah, no shit. Not only that, but not everyone has the right body type to ride the Jett/Chase way. My T-Rex arms wouldn't allow me to reach the bars if I tried to ride as far back as those guys. It's not hopeless for short guys (Wardy/RC/JMart etc.) but the cat definitely has to be skinned a different way than what's being taught as strict requirements right now.

Besides all of that, most amateur riders are slow because we take stupid lines, have our bike in the wrong part of the power too often, and/or have lousy physical conditioning. Riding form/style is usually the least of our problems.

Yeah my thighs get tired from being tall & in the correct position. Then I bend them less now my wt is to high & u loose quickness & control on the bike . But being in the correct position on a bike is easy. It’s u & a bike. Compared to other sports bball on d you hv to cover everyone a little diff. You hv to get down bend knees , arms, hands up , dart side to side , spin , dart , stop, jump, etc, etc.  your drilled on all this constantly.  It’s not natural to hv your arms above your head, then you hv to dart left, rt, turn, left,rt, spin move left , rt, etc. you don’t want to hear the coach yelling move your feet in a game. It is great to see the other teams bodies get tired & out of position. Our team sees it & instantly goes into kill mode. Some players or a sub is great because they don’t hv the basics or stand straight up . Burn them to the hole. A great player do some moves to get him out of position. And I can get him into foul trouble & get rid of him.  Every sport is about being in the correct position. I hv s pal that was a line man for the Packers & another team.  He talked about how he has 3-4 staff critiquing every move his body makes.  I,ve seen it in practice, they ride them more than any position because it’s about saving the q back. 

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4/6/2024 10:12am

Ryno & Professional125  podcast @4:20pm…. Gold👍

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4/6/2024 10:38am Edited Date/Time 4/6/2024 10:42am

I'll only listen to guys that practice what they preach. Every single trainer says Jett's style is what they've been preaching, yet they can't replicate it themselves on a bike. Ryno can, AJ Catanzaro can, Tyler Livesay can and that's about it. Gary Bailey? Have you seen what he looks like on a bike? Opposite of Jett. Sitting everywhere, etc. But guys around here say he originated that style... why? because they are old and so is he Wink

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I'll only listen to guys that practice what they preach. Every single trainer says Jett's style is what they've been preaching, yet they can't replicate it...

I'll only listen to guys that practice what they preach. Every single trainer says Jett's style is what they've been preaching, yet they can't replicate it themselves on a bike. Ryno can, AJ Catanzaro can, Tyler Livesay can and that's about it. Gary Bailey? Have you seen what he looks like on a bike? Opposite of Jett. Sitting everywhere, etc. But guys around here say he originated that style... why? because they are old and so is he Wink

AJ Cat was riding at a local track I was at in MA this summer. Technique was flawless. Feet on the pegs in all corners and standing feet on the pegs in certain corners. It was visually beautiful. I don't even think he was the fastest guy there that day. Local pro Josh Clark was probably faster but AJ's form was just amazing. He was on his CR125AF which made it even cooler

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studworx wrote:
I'll only listen to guys that practice what they preach. Every single trainer says Jett's style is what they've been preaching, yet they can't replicate it...

I'll only listen to guys that practice what they preach. Every single trainer says Jett's style is what they've been preaching, yet they can't replicate it themselves on a bike. Ryno can, AJ Catanzaro can, Tyler Livesay can and that's about it. Gary Bailey? Have you seen what he looks like on a bike? Opposite of Jett. Sitting everywhere, etc. But guys around here say he originated that style... why? because they are old and so is he Wink

AJ Cat was riding at a local track I was at in MA this summer. Technique was flawless. Feet on the pegs in all corners and...

AJ Cat was riding at a local track I was at in MA this summer. Technique was flawless. Feet on the pegs in all corners and standing feet on the pegs in certain corners. It was visually beautiful. I don't even think he was the fastest guy there that day. Local pro Josh Clark was probably faster but AJ's form was just amazing. He was on his CR125AF which made it even cooler

Yup. It’s way easier to listen when the coach himself rides exactly how he teaches. 
 

 

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4/6/2024 11:05am

Does riding on the balls of your feet lead to more foot movement (forward/backward) for shifting and braking?

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Does riding on the balls of your feet lead to more foot movement (forward/backward) for shifting and braking?

Yes. Our tracks r tighter & more technical than the tracks of the west or Tx. Numerous up & down shifts. So you move your feet a lot. I watched quite a few of these videos while iceing . None of them cover 85 or 125 riding styles. Like they talk about slowing down going into a corner. On a 125 you come in hot. Then use the 450 bike for a berm. Wo until you hit the apex in the corner. Where a 450 bike will assist . Lol. I waiting for the release of the , want to make more money at the track ? Well here’s how, it’s all take out moves.  Riders comment I implemented a few maneuvers at the track . I made an extra 80 bucks . Thx.  

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then teach him how to pull off the track

pops wrote:

He is not a quitter, and the team loves that!!!!

soggy wrote:

They would probably love for him to be on the track. He could have easily backed it down and finished top 3. 

They like to win more!!!

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4/6/2024 7:35pm Edited Date/Time 4/6/2024 7:37pm

Wow, this thread really brought out the knuckle dragger's. Ryno pubes are more legit than any of these clowns.

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Hughes is a kook, the first half of this video is just psuedo (stoner) intellectual mumbo jumbo where you don’t have enough knowledge to know you are a kook so you ramble like you're saying something. 

very rider that rides under his guidance leaves, presume either because he’s a kook, or their results get worse, or they get worse.  
 

To me, this particular accident from Austin was a direct result of his tutelage. Replacing solid muscle building weight exercises with ‘functional’ exercises meant he did not have the core strength to maintain form. Focussing on unlocking/loosening (including removing bracing to free up movement) meant he didn’t have form to maintain control. He was smooth and fast but didn’t not have the scope to react and control unexpected occurrences…

 

all from THE most injured coach in the business who is THE only coach telling people to not wear protecting.  He’s a kook who is a danger to the industry. 

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4/7/2024 4:31am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2024 5:45pm
Hughes is a kook, the first half of this video is just psuedo (stoner) intellectual mumbo jumbo where you don’t have enough knowledge to know you...

Hughes is a kook, the first half of this video is just psuedo (stoner) intellectual mumbo jumbo where you don’t have enough knowledge to know you are a kook so you ramble like you're saying something. 

very rider that rides under his guidance leaves, presume either because he’s a kook, or their results get worse, or they get worse.  
 

To me, this particular accident from Austin was a direct result of his tutelage. Replacing solid muscle building weight exercises with ‘functional’ exercises meant he did not have the core strength to maintain form. Focussing on unlocking/loosening (including removing bracing to free up movement) meant he didn’t have form to maintain control. He was smooth and fast but didn’t not have the scope to react and control unexpected occurrences…

 

all from THE most injured coach in the business who is THE only coach telling people to not wear protecting.  He’s a kook who is a danger to the industry. 

So the rider who is notoriously known for going down is Ryan Hughes fault, I assume Jett isn't riding the correct way also? So Fornker had no choice but to train with Ryno, it was nothing to do with Forkner wanting to improve himself?

Danger to the sport, give me a break, tell us how it's done champ.

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Hughes is a kook, the first half of this video is just psuedo (stoner) intellectual mumbo jumbo where you don’t have enough knowledge to know you...

Hughes is a kook, the first half of this video is just psuedo (stoner) intellectual mumbo jumbo where you don’t have enough knowledge to know you are a kook so you ramble like you're saying something. 

very rider that rides under his guidance leaves, presume either because he’s a kook, or their results get worse, or they get worse.  
 

To me, this particular accident from Austin was a direct result of his tutelage. Replacing solid muscle building weight exercises with ‘functional’ exercises meant he did not have the core strength to maintain form. Focussing on unlocking/loosening (including removing bracing to free up movement) meant he didn’t have form to maintain control. He was smooth and fast but didn’t not have the scope to react and control unexpected occurrences…

 

all from THE most injured coach in the business who is THE only coach telling people to not wear protecting.  He’s a kook who is a danger to the industry. 

I don’t think you know that Austin works with Charles at I-con sports with off the bike training!

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pops wrote:

I don’t think you know that Austin works with Charles at I-con sports with off the bike training!

I don't ever remember Austin having fitness issue. Even after being away with injury for many months I always found his conditioning remarkable

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They like to win more!!!

lol great logic. 

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They like to win more!!!

soggy wrote:

lol great logic. 

You tell Mitch!

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The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

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4/7/2024 10:12am

Ryno's a kook, but sometimes has good points. 

That's what I like about him!  

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The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

I’d love for him to tell Mitch how to run his team!!!😂😂😂

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I’d love for him to tell Mitch how to run his team!!!😂😂😂

 Mitch doesn't have time for vitards. He is too busy trying to win more championships.

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MxAddic wrote:
The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

pops wrote:

I’d love for him to tell Mitch how to run his team!!!😂😂😂

So Mitch would rather have a rider out for the majority of sx cause he wouldn’t back off in one race when the rider had a missing contact then a second place in one race and having another rider in contention for the championship. I find that very hard to believe. 

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4/7/2024 1:09pm
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Everyone wants to argue about oh there is many different ways to ride a bike fast which is true when it comes to riding STYLE. But...

Everyone wants to argue about oh there is many different ways to ride a bike fast which is true when it comes to riding STYLE. But as far as body position on the bike goes, what Jett, Chase, Tomac and some of the other guys are doing is the CORRECT way. 

The body is just more stable and stronger in certain positions than others and the hips back, balls of the feet with a strong flat back is just the correct way to do it. Nobody argues that there is only one correct way to Squat, Deadlift or do pushups, the body just works better in certain positions for certain movements. 

What sets Jett and even Chase apart is they are in the ideal position almost all the time no matter the situation, thats what makes it impressive. 

JazzyJJ wrote:
100%. It's like baseball players at the plate. They can wave the bat around or whatever but they all get into the same position when they're...

100%. It's like baseball players at the plate. They can wave the bat around or whatever but they all get into the same position when they're ready to swing.

joshd wrote:

Infielders also when they go to field a ground ball. 

Or golfers when they make a golf shot. 
 

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MxAddic wrote:
The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

The guy is setting on 2 red plates. What could he possibly tell him?

pops wrote:

I’d love for him to tell Mitch how to run his team!!!😂😂😂

soggy wrote:
So Mitch would rather have a rider out for the majority of sx cause he wouldn’t back off in one race when the rider had a...

So Mitch would rather have a rider out for the majority of sx cause he wouldn’t back off in one race when the rider had a missing contact then a second place in one race and having another rider in contention for the championship. I find that very hard to believe. 

If he told Mitch his contact fell out mid-race(after he had ridden with it out for 5 laps) Mitch would have asked why he couldn’t do 5 more laps like that!! Then everyone would be saying Austin was soft and a quitter!!!!!! Probably would be you!!!!!!!!! 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

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4/7/2024 4:33pm
pops wrote:

He is not a quitter, and the team loves that!!!!

soggy wrote:

They would probably love for him to be on the track. He could have easily backed it down and finished top 3. 

pops wrote:

They like to win more!!!

But he didn't win, he crashed and it could have been a career ending crash as bad as it looked. Sometimes it's better to back it off and live to fight another day. 

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